‘A get out of jail free card’: GOP bill would eliminate age requirements for marriage

[GreenDragon]

(04-26-2022, 04:29 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Is there somewhere in this proposed bill that over-rides the current state legal limits on marriage?
Or was it just written with the basic assumption that it would follow those current limits?

Yes.
No. 

[Mike M (the other one)]

(04-28-2022, 05:34 AM)GreenDragon Wrote: Yes.
No. 

can you list where in the bill is said it overrides current State legal age limits.
I'd be interested to see that before jumping to conclusions

[Earendil]

My mother was 15 when she married my dad. And for the record, I most certainly do not think that was ok. But I wouldn't be here otherwise, so what can I do?

That said, there's no way in hell I would have let my girls get married that young.

[GreenDragon]

(04-28-2022, 01:23 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: can you list where in the bill is said it overrides current State legal age limits.
I'd be interested to see that before jumping to conclusions

Read it.

Perma | http://www.capitol.tn.gov

[Mike M (the other one)]

(04-28-2022, 06:26 PM)GreenDragon Wrote: Read it.

Perma | http://www.capitol.tn.gov

I have, and it says: "One Man and One Woman", not Male/Female, Child or adolescent or anything referring to anything other than an Adult Male/Female... 

Since it was originally written, It's even been amended now to appease the "no age limit" criers, so what's the issue now?

[GreenDragon]

(04-29-2022, 09:06 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I have, and it says: "One Man and One Woman", not Male/Female, Child or adolescent or anything referring to anything other than an Adult Male/Female... 

Since it was originally written, It's even been amended now to appease the "no age limit" criers, so what's the issue now?

Yeah. The ORIGINAL, as they intended, had no age limit. 

[Mike M (the other one)]

(05-04-2022, 05:51 PM)GreenDragon Wrote: Yeah. The ORIGINAL, as they intended, had no age limit. 

I read it and didn't see anywhere where it over rode the current state legal limits?

[GMDino]

The Wyoming gop is pulling the same stunt...so as to not infringe on anyone's "constitutional rights".  

Efforts to raise the age of marriage to 16 in Wyoming have stalled as the WY GOP is urging its constituents to oppose a bill to add a minimum age, not because the bill is too weak, but because the bill stood to rob their constituents of "constitutional rights" to marry a child. pic.twitter.com/mpQ0hBsjUZ

— ChudsOfTikTok (@ChudsOfTikTok) February 12, 2023

 

Currently the state allows marriage licenses to become a "get out of jail free" card for a rapist, particularly if they impregnate the victim trapping kids in a legal quandary they can't escape as it enters a minor into a marriage before they're old enough to bring legal action. pic.twitter.com/iVvOFeh1Lz

— ChudsOfTikTok (@ChudsOfTikTok) February 12, 2023

 

[Dill]

(02-12-2023, 03:52 PM)GMDino Wrote: The Wyoming gop is pulling the same stunt...so as to not infringe on anyone's "constitutional rights".  

That's how I see it. 

Just more government regulation interfering with our freedom.

Like drivers licenses, and limits on highway speed and drinking. 

[guyofthetiger]

Families should decide when it is appropriate to get married. I'd be surprised a responsible parent would let their child get married too young. I know a couple that married in high school and they are still together after 50 years. Some people can handle getting married at 16. Not for me though.

[GMDino]

(02-14-2023, 05:56 AM)guyofthetiger Wrote: Families should decide when it is appropriate to get married. I'd be surprised a responsible parent would let their child get married too young. I know a couple that married in high school and they are still together after 50 years. Some people can handle getting married at 16. Not for me though.

So if a father decides to marry off his daughter at 13 to a 30 year old that's fine because the "family" decides?

I can't say I support that since it puts the child in that position with no say and at an age where they can't enter into any kind of contract.

And remember there is no lower limit on the age.

[guyofthetiger]

(02-14-2023, 10:04 AM)GMDino Wrote: So if a father decides to marry off his daughter at 13 to a 30 year old that's fine because the "family" decides?

I can't say I support that since it puts the child in that position with no say and at an age where they can't enter into any kind of contract.

And remember there is no lower limit on the age.

What decent father would do that? You keep using the rare exceptions to make your point. The child would have some say in this case and it would not be the sole decision of the father hopefully. I guess your parents were dysfunctional to even make this point.

[GMDino]

(02-14-2023, 10:25 AM)guyofthetiger Wrote: What decent father would do that? You keep using the rare exceptions to make your point. The child would have some say in this case and it would not be the sole decision of the father hopefully. I guess your parents were dysfunctional to even make this point.

One that believes his religion says it is ok.  

The child would have no say.  That's just the way it is.  The Wyoming GOP says its a "constitutional right" to not have a legal lower limit.

I had a wonderful childhood with two loving parents who would NOT have done such a thing.  But they aren't right wing loonies either, so there's that.