AI is here, and we are in trouble

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

I'm just going to post this video first.  Every video image (not text overlay) is completely, 100% artificially generated by AI based on a simple text prompt.  If you can't see how scary this is then you don't have much of an imagination.

[SunsetBengal]

I look forward to the day when I can send my AI clone to work to draw complicated property maps, write legal descriptions and sort out vaguely written hundred plus year old deed descriptions.

[NATI BENGALS]

We worry about it here, but at least we have the best tech companies in the world that will try to safeguard us. Fingers crossed we will be alright. But a lot of other countries. Who don’t have the best tech companies in the world attempting to combat misinformation. Man…

[Goalpost]

When I hear AI I just think Nvidia.

[Matt_Crimson]

(02-16-2024, 09:30 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I'm just going to post this video first.  Every video image (not text overlay) is completely, 100% artificially generated by AI based on a simple text prompt.  If you can't see how scary this is then you don't have much of an imagination.

I am actually really surprised at the amount of people I have talked to who have almost no concerns when it comes to AI. They basically tell me to take my tin foil hat off,

A lot of people are making the mistake of equating this to Y2K, the Mayan calender, etc......but AI is far more complicated than those things.

I can't remember where I saw it, but there was a video talking about how researches said AI wouldn't have the ability to teach itself anything outside of what it was programmed to learn but then they discovered it was llearning things outside of what it was programmed to learn.

That is terrifying.

[Matt_Crimson]

(02-16-2024, 10:25 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: We worry about it here, but at least we have the best tech companies in the world that will try to safeguard us. Fingers crossed  we will be alright. But a lot of other countries. Who don’t have the best tech companies in the world attempting to combat misinformation. Man…

But that's the thing. It doesn't matter how much we protect ourselves here in the long run.

If AI disinformation in other parts of the world can cause enoough conflict to stir up global chaos, then the fact that we were able to safegaurd ourselves is meaningless because we will be pulled into those conflicts.

[NATI BENGALS]

(02-16-2024, 10:43 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: But that's the thing. It doesn't matter how much we protect ourselves here in the long run.

If AI disinformation in other parts of the world can cause enoough conflict to stir up global chaos, then the fact that we were able to safegaurd ourselves is meaningless because we will be pulled into those conflicts.

Very true

[CJD]

I saw a recent episode of Law and Order a few weeks ago and, in it, a guy kills the head of an AI company. They know he did it because he admitted very specific details about the shooting and motive and they had circumstantial evidence that paired with his confession, so he was dead to rights until they got the confession thrown out for drama reasons.

Anyway, the victim's business partner, halfway through the trial, goes "oh shit, I totally forgot, there's actually a camera pointing directly at that area. Here's a video of him doing it, clear as day.

They don't outright state that the guy generated it from whole cloth, but they heavily implied it.

I could see that being a real thing in the future. Doubting if a video you can see with your own eyes actually happened at all.

It's terrifying.

[Millhouse]

"The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race." 
"Humans, who are limited by slow biological evolution, couldn't compete, and would be superseded."
"It would take off on its own, and re-design itself at an ever increasing rate,"

- Stephen Hawking

The continuous growth of AI is on the list of the things that can either wipe out humanity or end civilization as we know it. And the scary part is the ones who own it are protected with their wealth and I presume their dealings with the militaries and governments around the world.
 

[BigPapaKain]

"It has banned the use of its program for political campaigning"

Ah yes because politicians are known for their adherence to rules, laws, and bans.

Well, anyone who grew up liking sci-fi knew humanity was doomed in one of two ways - glad to see we went the route that involves both options.

[*michaelsean*]

Admittedly, seeing something like California during the gold rush or even something like Acre during the crusades would be awesome, we have grown to depend on video, and if it’s unreliable then that’s a problem.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

It was pointed out by a Youtuber I like that less than a year ago this technology looked like hot garbage. This video was created using the exact same program.





Seriously, ten months later we get what's in OP. You're literally not going to able to ever trust a video again in your life.

[GMDino]

While I too worry about the political implications of deep fakes and AI there is still a good way to go before it starts taken our jobs on a large scale.

Also AI still can't always figure out what a human body looks like...lol.



I think we're ok for a little while.  

[*Nately120*]

(02-20-2024, 12:02 AM)GMDino Wrote: While I too worry about the political implications of deep fakes and AI there is still a good way to go before it starts taken our jobs on a large scale.

Also AI still can't always figure out what a human body looks like...lol.



I think we're ok for a little while.  

Didn't the DeSantis campaign use AI generated images of Trump hugging and kissing Dr. Fauci?  DeSantis is DOA, so it didn't work but probably not because people knew it was BS.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-20-2024, 12:02 AM)GMDino Wrote: While I too worry about the political implications of deep fakes and AI there is still a good way to go before it starts taken our jobs on a large scale.

Also AI still can't always figure out what a human body looks like...lol.



I think we're ok for a little while.  

Amazing.  I post as non-partisan a subject as can exist.  Yet you find a way to poo poo it (yeah I said poo poo) by posting some shitty irrelevant version.  Look at the video in OP and compare it with your idiotic example.  

[Belsnickel]

So, my wife is very anti-AI while I am more of someone who embraces the technology. That being said, I do have my concerns over it. I love AI integrated searches because they are so much better than standard search engines. I have used generative AI to develop a framework for presentations and come up with ideas for some things. All that being said, as with many things we are seeing the technology outpace the safeguards we can put up. This is something that we need to do better about but obviously is not something I know a ton about to really provide any valuable insights. I am just someone who recognizes the value of the technology as well as the potential pitfalls.

[GMDino]

(02-20-2024, 09:03 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, my wife is very anti-AI while I am more of someone who embraces the technology. That being said, I do have my concerns over it. I love AI integrated searches because they are so much better than standard search engines. I have used generative AI to develop a framework for presentations and come up with ideas for some things. All that being said, as with many things we are seeing the technology outpace the safeguards we can put up. This is something that we need to do better about but obviously is not something I know a ton about to really provide any valuable insights. I am just someone who recognizes the value of the technology as well as the potential pitfalls.

Yeah, I've seen some really good stuff and some bad stuff but for the most part it seems (for most of us) to be being used for things like that: searches, videos, photos.

I've created a few images for use in videos and presentations myself and it can be good and may put a lot of the less tech savvy designers in a world of hurt.  So far I see it affect the arts more than most human jobs.

Robots didn't take all our jobs and I don't think AI will either, but as I said and I agree with you, there will need to be safeguards which will probably either go way to far or will be fought by some "BIG AI" lobbyist...lol.

[HarleyDog]

(02-16-2024, 10:27 PM)Goalpost Wrote: When I hear AI I just think Nvidia.

Every investor would. These guys are years ahead of everyone else.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-20-2024, 09:03 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, my wife is very anti-AI while I am more of someone who embraces the technology. That being said, I do have my concerns over it. I love AI integrated searches because they are so much better than standard search engines. I have used generative AI to develop a framework for presentations and come up with ideas for some things. All that being said, as with many things we are seeing the technology outpace the safeguards we can put up. This is something that we need to do better about but obviously is not something I know a ton about to really provide any valuable insights. I am just someone who recognizes the value of the technology as well as the potential pitfalls.

I think some people are blind to how much potential there is here.  As I posted, in less then a year they went from Will Smith nightmare fuel to video indistinguishable from reality.  And these things build on themselves exponentially, imagine how much sophisticated this will be in just one more year.  And that's talking only about AI generated images.  Very soon, if not already, you will not be able to trust the authenticity of any video you see, unless you personally took it or where there.  You can add all the safeguards you want, but it'll be impossible to prevent bad actors from using this technology to create and disseminate whatever images they want.  Deep fake pornography alone is going to rake in billions, no matter how illegal you make it.  Scary times.

[KillerGoose]

(02-20-2024, 01:06 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I think some people are blind to how much potential there is here.  As I posted, in less then a year they went from Will Smith nightmare fuel to video indistinguishable from reality.  And these things build on themselves exponentially, imagine how much sophisticated this will be in just one more year.  And that's talking only about AI generated images.  Very soon, if not already, you will not be able to trust the authenticity of any video you see, unless you personally took it or where there.  You can add all the safeguards you want, but it'll be impossible to prevent bad actors from using this technology to create and disseminate whatever images they want.  Deep fake pornography alone is going to rake in billions, no matter how illegal you make it.  Scary times.

I think the most fascinating yet scariest thing is we don't quite know how powerful AI could become. We can theorize about what artificial general intelligence (AGI) would look like but is it even achievable? I think, at this point, the consensus is "yes" on that front. We still don't know what that would look like in reality. It could really produce incredible things, and it could also endanger society. I personally embrace the technology, but I do plenty of concerns and recognize the need for protections to be passed. Disinformation is going to become exponentially more powerful when you have an AI generated video of a powerful political figure saying things to incite unrest and violence, or promote confusion. 

It's really a new frontier, and has the potential to be one of the most dangerous yet.