An American Gestapo

[Bengalzona]

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/12/05/white-house-considering-private-spy-network-report/23297468/

Quote:White House considering private spy network: report

Quote:President Trump is considering creating a private network of spies that would be controlled directly by him and his CIA chief, according to a report.

The alleged proposal comes in part from Blackwater founder Erik Prince and would be separate from existing intelligence agencies in order to counteract the supposed “deep state” in the national security apparatus that is opposed to the commander-in-chief, sources told The Intercept.

Prince’s Blackwater previously provided privately contracted soldiers to the U.S., though scandal over operations that included civilian deaths in Iraq has led him to rebrand the venture and begin working with powers such as China and the United Arab Emirates.

The new proposed intelligence wing, which has reportedly been soliciting Trump donors for financing, would also include spies in areas such as North Korea and Iran.

A National Security Council spokesman denied to The Intercept that anyone at NSC or the White House had been briefed on the proposal, though the outlet said that CIA Director Mike Pompeo was pushing it.

Prince denied that he was part of the project, which also reportedly includes his former colleague and CIA veteran John Maguire, the company Amyntor Group and Iran-Contra scandal figure Oliver North.

He says that the only effort he has publicly pitched has been private contracting options for the long-running war in Afghanistan.

Beyond his work with the government during the George W. Bush administration, Prince has ties to Team Trump, and is the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.

The Washington Post reported earlier this year that Prince had traveled to an Indian Ocean getaway in the Seychelles to meet with Abu Dhabi crown prince Mohammad bin Zayed and an associate of Vladimir Putin as an unofficial representative of the Trump transition.

Prince denied acting in any way for the Trump camp or setting up a backchannel method of communication between the future President and the Kremlin.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-private-spies-deep-state-735091

[GMDino]

I don't even know what to think anymore.  I don't want to believe they would be this dumb/sneaky yet I have to see anything that would show they are not that dumb/sneaky.

[Belsnickel]

The "deep state" of the intelligence community is the biggest load of horse shit and is an insult to the men and women all over the globe that put their lives on the line without any sort of recognition for the work they do.

[Bengalzona]

(12-05-2017, 01:16 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The "deep state" of the intelligence community is the biggest load of horse shit and is an insult to the men and women all over the globe that put their lives on the line without any sort of recognition for the work they do.

Of course. Playing people's paranoia for personal empowerment. Screw democratic values. Power grab. Who's on-board?

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

I like the part about the head of the CIA can't trust the CIA, but we can trust the guy who founded Blackwater. And some will swallow this hook, line, and sinker. Nothing says trust worthy more than a mercenary willing to sell his services (and your secrets) to the highest bidder.

[Bengalzona]

(12-05-2017, 03:34 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I like the part about the head of the CIA can't trust the CIA, but we can trust the guy who founded Blackwater. And some will swallow this hook, line, and sinker. Nothing says trust worthy more than a mercenary willing to sell his services (and your secrets) to the highest bidder.

Clearly we need to outsource espionage for the good of our country. Right?

[*bfine32*]

I suppose if news of your plans to create a secret spy organization are leaked to the public then you're doing it wrong. Or this could just be a lot of baseless conjecture

[Dill]

(12-05-2017, 01:03 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/12/05/white-house-considering-private-spy-network-report/23297468/


http://www.newsweek.com/trump-private-spies-deep-state-735091

Stovepipe!  Shades of the Iraq War.

[Dill]

(12-05-2017, 08:47 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I suppose if news of your plans to create a secret spy organization are leaked to the public then you're doing it wrong. Or this could just be a lot of baseless conjecture

I'm guessing this is more fake news. 

Just reason it out.

Nothing in Trump's reign so far suggests that he would make risky attempts to reroute personal intel/information around official/traditional institutions and channels.

Still less evidence that he and his staff could botch something like that. He picks the best people.

[Bengalzona]

(12-05-2017, 10:00 PM)Dill Wrote: I'm guessing this is more fake news. 

Just reason it out.

Nothing in Trump's reign so far suggests that he would make risky attempts to reroute personal intel/information around official/traditional institutions and channels.

Still less evidence that he and his staff could botch something like that. He picks the best people.

With people like Ollie North involved, you know it has to be good.