Another old ugly white man accussed of Sexual Harrishment!

[ballsofsteel]

Another fat, ugly, rich right wing conservative sexless turd has been accused of sexual Harassment again. Faux news contributor and Steve Douchbags idol Harvey Albert Weinstein is the one being accused.

http://www.9news.com.au/entertainment/2017/10/06/06/57/harvey-weinstein-to-take-leave-amid-sexual-harassment-report

This makes me sick.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(10-05-2017, 05:47 PM)ballsofsteel Wrote: Another fat, ugly, rich right wing conservative sexless turd has been accused of sexual Harassment again. Faux news contributor and Steve Douchbags idol Harvey Albert Weinstein is the one being accused.

http://www.9news.com.au/entertainment/2017/10/06/06/57/harvey-weinstein-to-take-leave-amid-sexual-harassment-report

This makes me sick.

It's almost like you just say some of the most random stupid shit just to see if anyone will call you out on it. He's a major donor for Democrats, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Patrick Leahy, Joe Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Tom Harkin, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Elizabeth Warren, Rosa DeLauro, ETC.

I mean, the guy's a Hollywood producer/executive. Pretty much none of them are conservatives. But please, let your sickness over a liberal white rich old guy out. Tell us how horrible all those Democrats are for taking his money for the last three decades. Start calling them all out as the reprehensible people that make you sick.

I'll wait.

[*bfine32*]

Tee Hee

[Yojimbo]

Umm, yeah. Weinstein is pretty well known as a liberal (well a neo-liberal).

[Dill]

(10-05-2017, 07:01 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: It's almost like you just say some of the most random stupid shit just to see if anyone will call you out on it. He's a major donor for Democrats, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Patrick Leahy, Joe Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Tom Harkin, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Elizabeth Warren, Rosa DeLauro, ETC.

I mean, the guy's a Hollywood producer/executive. Pretty much none of them are conservatives. But please, let your sickness over a liberal white rich old guy out. Tell us how horrible all those Democrats are for taking his money for the last three decades. Start calling them all out as the reprehensible people that make you sick.

I'll wait.

Whoa!  When a guy like that wins the Democratic primary, I will certainly start calling them out as people who make me sick.
But Democrats won't even nominate someone like that.

And if they don't know he is sexually harassing women I am not going to suddenly blame his donors. 

Both sides don't do it.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

Not to mention President Obama literally sent his daughter to him.

Malia Obama’s Next Move: An Internship with Harvey Weinstein
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/01/malia-obama-harvey-weinstein-internship

(10-05-2017, 07:35 PM)Dill Wrote: Whoa!  When a guy like that wins the Democratic primary, I will certainly start calling them out as people who make me sick.
But Democrats won't even nominate someone like that.

And if they don't know he is sexually harassing women I am not going to suddenly blame his donors. 

Both sides don't do it.

Come on Dill, like you'd really be trying to be that reasonable if he was indeed a massive Republican supporter/doner for the last three decades, and had been close with Bush Jr, McCain, Romney, Trump, and all the R members of Congress.

Balls, GMD, Nati, etc, would be absolutely laying into the topic. Are you telling me you'd be posting this to defend Conservatives then?

I am still just laughing at how utterly little thought Balls put into making this thread that was instantly and undeniably proven false.

[Belsnickel]

Yeah, Weinstein is a major donor for the Dems. Guy is a hypocritical sleaze and the people that kept this under wraps are stains on society as well.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(10-05-2017, 10:42 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Yeah, Weinstein is a major donor for the Dems. Guy is a hypocritical sleaze and the people that kept this under wraps are stains on society as well.

His behavior was an open secret in the industry for a long time.  Trust me, if half the things I've been told, by people who work in it, are true you would vomit.  

[Dill]

(10-05-2017, 07:44 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Come on Dill, like you'd really be trying to be that reasonable if he was indeed a massive Republican supporter/doner for the last three decades, and had been close with Bush Jr, McCain, Romney, Trump, and all the R members of Congress.

Balls, GMD, Nati, etc, would be absolutely laying into the topic. Are you telling me you'd be posting this to defend Conservatives then?

I am still just laughing at how utterly little thought Balls put into making this thread that was instantly and undeniably proven false.

Len, Balls erred in calling Weinstein "conservative," certainly; and you made a valid correction.

For my part, unless there is spectacular hypocrisy by some moral scold (Bill O'Reilly, Dennis Hastert), or the accused is rewarded for bad behavior by voters (Trump), I generally don't waste time on sex and money scandals for either party.   In contrast to other areas of contention, like foreign policy, civility, science, and journalistic standards, I don't see much difference between liberals and conservatives. "Both sides do it." So if Weinstein were donating to Bush, McCain, et al, and then became focus of a sex scandal, then no, I would not be "laying into" those politicians or tsk-tsking Republicans. At the moment, such behavior appears an "individual" rather than a "group" characteristic, regardless of party.
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But the election of Trump has changed the political context of sexual harassment scandals now, since Trump voters knew what they were getting and voted for him anyway.  Until Democrats do that too, they have the high ground whenever we are talking about harassment scandals.  Making that point was my only reason for intervening here.

[Belsnickel]

(10-05-2017, 11:45 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: His behavior was an open secret in the industry for a long time.  Trust me, if half the things I've been told, by people who work in it, are true you would vomit.  

At the risk of sounding like I'm trying to start a socialist revolution, this is why I can't stand rich assholes. These people with money are so often to be found to have done things like this, and other people with money just sweep it under the rug.

[*michaelsean*]

Wow this is funny. And why do the extreme leftists bring race into everything?

[*michaelsean*]

I'm curious, what part of the story made you think he was a conservative? It goes on and on about his Hollwood production credentials, so if you were just guessing, and it's not the 1950s, you would say liberal.

[GMDino]

(10-06-2017, 08:57 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Wow this is funny. And why do the extreme leftists bring race into everything?

Eh, when you hear these stories they do tend to skew white male.  And typically conservative too, although clearly Weinstein is a big liberal.

Kind of like mass shootings and serial killers.  (I don't think they skew conservative though.)

It's a generalization but it has good numbers on its side.

[*michaelsean*]

(10-06-2017, 09:20 AM)GMDino Wrote: Eh, when you hear these stories they do tend to skew white male.  And typically conservative too, although clearly Weinstein is a big liberal.

Kind of like mass shootings and serial killers.  (I don't think they skew conservative though.)

It's a generalization but it has good numbers on its side.

It must have killed him not to be able to say Christian.   

While most serial killers may be white, they aren't out of proportion with their percentage of the population.  

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201412/serial-killer-myth-6-they-are-all-white

[GMDino]

(10-06-2017, 09:28 AM)michaelsean Wrote: It must have killed him not to be able to say Christian.   

While most serial killers may be white, they aren't out of proportion with their percentage of the population.  

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201412/serial-killer-myth-6-they-are-all-white

I didn't "all white" I said "skew" white.

Given the meme that blacks commit more crimes based on their population I think whites are over achieving in the serial killer realm.  

[*michaelsean*]

(10-06-2017, 09:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: I didn't "all white" I said "skew" white.

Given the meme that blacks commit more crimes based on their population I think whites are over achieving in the serial killer realm.  

Of course it skews white, as there are a lot more white people, but they are not over achieving.  (Did the link not work?)

[GMDino]

(10-06-2017, 09:47 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Of course it skews white, as there are a lot more white people, but they are not over achieving.  (Did the link not work?)

I reread the link...he repeatedly say the myth is "all white" so he names some non-white serial killers and complains about media coverage.

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Serial%20Killer%20Information%20Center/Serial%20Killer%20Statistics.pdf

Couple points.  They are calling a serial killer anywhere from two victims and up in this report which has leveled off the averages a good bit.  Also it's another area that the US leads the world in.  

[*michaelsean*]

(10-06-2017, 11:01 AM)GMDino Wrote: I reread the link...he repeatedly say the myth is "all white" so he names some non-white serial killers and complains about media coverage.

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Serial%20Killer%20Information%20Center/Serial%20Killer%20Statistics.pdf

Couple points.  They are calling a serial killer anywhere from two victims and up in this report which has leveled off the averages a good bit.  Also it's another area that the US leads the world in.  

OK so by the definition of serial killer, whites haven't over achieved. Men certainly have.  

[GMDino]

(10-06-2017, 11:10 AM)michaelsean Wrote: OK so by the definition of serial killer, whites haven't over achieved. Men certainly have.  

Which is why we need to track all white men.  With an emphasis on the white ones.

At least until we can get a grip on what is happening.  

[Belsnickel]

I think what frustrates me about these sorts of stories, is that it shows how much of the political game is about tribalism rather than ideology. When we have public figures, whether it be celebrity or elected, that are caught taking actions contrary to the ideological system of their groups it is far too often ignored by the group to which they belong. There may be some tut-tutting behind closed doors, but publicly they are often spared the brunt of it.

These people took actions counter to the stated positions of the group. Say it. Call them out. It needs to be recognized, they need to be chastised, and those that were complicit need to be chastised as well. I'm sick of this tribalism bullshit that is ruining these groups. This is why we have two parties that aren't too different from each other, it's because we've compromised so much on the ideologies running through them that they are indistinguishable from each other because they have no real substance to them.

/rant