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Bad boys, bad boys...watcha gonna do?
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rogue-east-cleveland-cops-framed-dozens-drug-suspects-n736671


Quote:Rogue East Cleveland Cops Framed Dozens of Drug Suspects
by JON SCHUPPE


In January 2013, police raided the home of a Cleveland drug dealer, saying in a search warrant that an informant had recently bought crack cocaine there.

But the drug dealer had surveillance cameras that proved the officers were lying. He gave the tapes to his lawyer, who showed the FBI.
The feds then worked to uncover a massive scandal of a rogue street-crimes unit that robbed and framed drug suspects who felt they had no choice but plead guilty to fraudulent charges.

Four years later, authorities are still unwinding the damage.

Three cops who worked for the city of East Cleveland are in prison. Cases against 22 alleged drug dealers have been dismissed.
Authorities are searching for another 21 people who are eligible to have their convictions tossed. On top of those injustices, there is a slim chance that any of them will be fully reimbursed, because the disgraced officers and their former employer don't have the money.

"I always took it on the chin when I got arrested for something I know I did. But when a cop lies to get you in prison, that's a different story," said Kenneth Blackshaw, who was arrested in a 2013 traffic stop and spent two years behind bars before his drug conviction was overturned.
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The detectives, Blackshaw said, knew just who to target: people with long criminal records who knew their word would never stand up against a police officer's. He is trying to recoup all that he lost, including $100,000 the cops took from his home in an illegal search.

"A person like myself doesn't stand a fighting chance for his freedom when he stands accused of something he didn't do," Blackshaw, 51, said.

Drugs, race and graft

The Cleveland-area victims are among thousands of people who have been exonerated in cases involving police graft over the last three decades countrywide, from California to Texas, and from New Jersey to Ohio. In Philadelphia, more than 800 people have had their convictions dismissed. The Rampart scandal in Los Angeles in the late 1990s led to at least 150 tossed cases.

These "group exonerations" are distinct from the stories of people cleared by DNA or new evidence, a movement led by crusading lawyers who dig into individual cases to expose faulty forensics, false confessions, mistaken identities and official misconduct.

Group exonerations rarely attract much attention outside of the communities where they occur. They typically involve people convicted of relatively minor crimes that resulted in short prison sentences or terms of probation. The victims often have criminal records and, if not for the corrupt methods that led to their convictions, may actually have been guilty of a crime.

There is no official record of group exonerations, and researchers believe that in some police corruption scandals, authorities don't bother to identify tainted convictions — or tell victims they could be cleared. Even so, the number of people wrongly convicted under such circumstances likely exceeds the more than 2,000 individual exonerations recorded since 1989, according to the National Registry of Exonerations.

The vast majority of victims are black — a result that points to national trends in American drug-law enforcement researchers at the registry said 
in a report issued last month. "As any forger knows, the way to create convincing fakes is to make them look like the real thing," the report's authors wrote. "For drug cases, that means arresting mostly black suspects."

The impact is profound. Group exonerations not only undermine crime fighting efforts, but also destroy faith in police and fuel the belief that the justice system treats poor, minority communities unfairly.

"What I saw in this case is a legitimate reason for these folks to have these feelings toward law enforcement," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Ed Feran, who prosecuted the East Cleveland officers.

Setups and thefts

East Cleveland is a city in distress, much more so than Cleveland, its larger Rust Belt neighbor. More than 40 percent of its 17,843 residents live in poverty, almost all of them black. Mass demolitions of abandoned homes has left the 3-square-mile city pocked with vacant lots. The median household income is $19,592. The local government is near bankruptcy.
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That is the atmosphere in which the rogue street crimes unit operated.

After the FBI got tipped-off in early 2013, agents had the drug dealer who caught officers lying about buying crack at his house wear a wire. His secret recordings caught one of the officers shaking him down for $3,000 during a traffic stop.

From there, investigators uncovered more frame-ups and thefts. They documented several of them in an October 2015 indictment that charged the rogue unit's commander, Torris Moore, and two underlings, Antonio Malone and Eric Jones, with illegally searching and stealing from alleged drug dealers and faking reports to cover up their crimes.

The indictment included charges that the officers had arrested an alleged drug dealer identified as K.B. The following day, while K.B. sat in jail, the indictment said, the officers broke into his room at his grandmother's house and took $100,000, keeping a third of it and turning in the rest.
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Blackshaw did not know his case was under investigation. He learned of the officers' arrest by watching the news in prison. He called home and an aunt told him she'd already talked to his lawyer. "We're working on getting you out of there," he recalled her saying.

A feeling of vindication washed over Blackshaw. He had agreed to go to prison even though he didn't think his arrest was legitimate. He has a long history of drug offenses, and his charge, possession of more than 100 grams of cocaine, carried a mandatory minimum sentence of 11 years behind bars. He maintains he did not have any drugs on him when he was busted.

He'd told his lawyer he wanted to go to trial. But his lawyer, Terry Gilbert, had advised against it, reminding him that it would be his word against the officers'. So Blackshaw pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and received a five-year prison sentence.

"Neither of us ever dreamed that these cops could be crooked enough to steal money and lie about it, and even if they did, who would believe Kenneth Blackshaw?" Gilbert recalled. But, as it turns out, the officers lied in the police report and to prosecutors while defending their illegal search.

'Legally innocent'

Most of the victims mentioned in the federal indictment didn't have private lawyers to push for their release. But the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office had just formed a Conviction Integrity Unit, which helped make sure all of the convictions were vacated. Blackshaw was released from prison in February 2016.

All three officers were sentenced to prison: Moore got nine years, Malone six and Jones nearly four. In a tearful courtroom apology, Moore said she'd turned rogue in 2011.
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That revelation prompted the Conviction Integrity Unit to review all of the officers' work since 2011. They came up with dozens of suspect cases. In some, the officers cited the use of confidential informants without proving their existence. In others, money used for undercover drug purchases, or money seized in arrests or raids, was not properly logged, raising questions about where the cash ended up.

Each of the defendants, like Blackshaw, had pleaded guilty. Now they were all eligible to have their cases dismissed.

Some of the victims had likely committed drug offenses. But because the entire process was corroded, the cases could no longer be defended in court. Justice required their dismissal.

"We didn't go all the way to determine whether they were factually innocent or not," Jose Torres, who heads the unit, said. "We were convinced that they were legally innocent, and that's enough for us."

Search for victims

So far, authorities have identified 43 people whose convictions deserved to be tossed. But in order for that to happen, they or a lawyer representing them needs to appear in court to ask a judge to dismiss the charges.

Working with the county public defender's office, they've only been able to dismiss convictions for 22 people, Torres said. They've tracked down a couple of others who are expected to appear in court soon. The rest either haven't been found or don't want to come forward.

In each case, defense lawyers have insisted on protecting the victim's right to sue for damages. But whether they get any award remains to be seen.

Blackshaw, out of prison for more than a year, says he's trying to start a commercial cleaning business. He is grateful to be released, but he lost two years of freedom.

And he is still fighting for the rest of his money. 
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Interesting, legally innocent but probably not actually innocent. The struggles of the justice system, in their minds the cops probably thought the end justified their means, but the reality is it got a lot of guilty people off.
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(04-03-2017, 03:08 PM)Au165 Wrote: Interesting, legally innocent but probably not actually innocent. The struggles of the justice system, in their minds the cops probably thought the end justified their means, but the reality is it got a lot of guilty people off.

If you include all the graft, stealing, illegal searches and planting evidence.   Mellow
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/02/officer-commits-suicide-after-admitting-molestation/99960156/


Quote:Officer commits suicide after admitting molestation


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JACKSON, Miss. — Tishomingo Police Officer Russ Robinson committed suicide March 24 after admitting to authorities he had molested minors.
His admission came after the Alcorn County Sheriff’s Department, with assistance from the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation, questioned the 53-year-old officer about allegations he molested a 17-year-old boy after flashing his headlights to get the teen to pull over.

A day after that questioning, Robinson was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound inside his home in the Crossroads Community near Iuka.

It was not the first time molestation allegations had arisen against Robinson, but it was the first time authorities took action to address them.

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Several years earlier, Robinson, a deputy then for Tishomingo County, left his part-time job at Brooks Grocery in Iuka following another such accusation.

Asked if Robinson had been fired, owner Davis Brooks replied, “I don’t want to comment. That’s private information.”


Asked if Robinson had been fired because he allegedly molested a young male there, Brooks replied, “I told you before, that’s private information.”


Robinson left the Tishomingo County Sheriff's Department after a new sheriff was elected in 2015 and began working for the Tishomingo Police Department.


Tishomingo Police Chief Mike Kemp said he was aware that authorities on March 23 were questioning Robinson about molestation allegations.


“(The allegations of molestation) happened in another county,” Kemp said. “I knew he wasn’t charged.”


He said Robinson was still working for the police department at the time of his death.


Asked about Brooks Grocery, Kemp said Robinson was never fired from there.


“There were some innuendoes,” Kemp said. “We determined that he resigned from Brooks Grocery. I don’t think there was any molesting. Certainly no charges were made.”


The rumor, Kemp said, was that Robinson had said something inappropriate.


“Nobody ever contacted us or said anything,” he said. “I had heard the rumor, but until I had concrete information, there was nothing I could do.”


Asked if he questioned Robinson about this, Kemp said no.


He explained that he was never approached by anyone with any information.


But Kemp was working at the sheriff’s department several years ago with Robinson and then-narcotics officer Jeff Palmer.


Palmer’s estranged wife, Leigh, recalled him coming home several years ago and talking about a surveillance video from Brooks Grocery, which supposedly showed molestation by Robinson.


She said he worried this matter could "come back and bite them” since no criminal action was taken against Robinson.


Palmer denied all of this, saying it was a lie and that his wife has admitted under oath to lying in the past when she was mad.


Documents show Jeff Palmer's veracity was called into question when he failed a polygraph test in which he was asked about using drug buy money for personal use.


Palmer, who is no longer in law enforcement, had been suspended from the state Bureau of Narcotics after he was accused of falsifying and forging vouchers “for the purchase of information and evidence.” A 2014 letter from the bureau’s lawyer concluded no money was “actually diverted by Palmer. ...
There was no definitive determination as to whether Palmer financially benefitted.”


Still at the request of prosecutors in Tishomingo County, judges threw out dozens of Palmer’s drug cases after problems with his cases were revealed.


Asked if he knew about the molestation allegations concerning Robinson, Palmer replied, “I did not participate in any part of anything pertaining to Russ.”


Under Mississippi law, failure by law enforcement to report allegations of suspected child abuse to the state Department of Human Services is a misdemeanor.


Regarding the more recent allegation against Robinson, investigators discovered the following: A teen had stopped at Dollar General in the small town of Glen to get something for school when Robinson came into the parking lot.


When the teen drove away in his car, Robinson followed him in an unmarked car and flashed his headlights.


The teen pulled his car over into the median, and Robinson got out of his car and began speaking to the teen.


The teen told authorities that Robinson remarked that he had had sex with two boys before reaching down and putting his hand on the teen’s groin.


The teen told authorities that he told Robinson that he wasn't interested.


When the teen arrived home, he told his parents, who contacted authorities.


The teen told the Alcorn County Sheriff’s Department what happened, and Robinson admitted to authorities that he had touched the teen as well as had molested other minors.


Under Mississippi law, a probable cause hearing must be held before charging a law enforcement officer with a crime “in the performance of official duties … The purpose of the hearing shall be to determine if adequate probable cause exists for the issuance of a warrant.”


The hearing never took place. Robinson committed suicide.


Despite his death, authorities are continuing to investigate, seizing the computer that Robinson used and interviewing Brooks, who confirmed that Robinson had molested a young male at the store and that he had turned over his store's surveillance video of what happened to the sheriff's office.
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(04-03-2017, 03:16 PM)GMDino Wrote: If you include all the graft, stealing, illegal searches and planting evidence.   Mellow

I'm sure they justified it to themselves as being against bad people. As I said that 100k in an area where the median income is 20k doesn't magically appear. The guy was probably a drug dealer taking into account his past offenses and the amount of money on hand multiple times when he clams he was robbed, so they made their case work and had no remorse in stealing from a criminal. It's not the way our justice system should work, but it happens more than we know and sometimes to innocent people.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-attorney-general-blasts-deal-rein-baltimore-police-182116099.html


Quote:Washington (AFP) - US Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Friday blasted an agreement to rein in Baltimore's notorious police department, saying it would lead to more crime.


He criticized a federal judge's approval of a consent decree that requires Baltimore police to implement sweeping reforms.

The agreement -- which followed riots in the East Coast city after the 2015 death in police custody of 25-year-old Freddie Gray -- forces the police to respect the rights of citizens, end harsh patrol tactics in black neighborhoods and use body cameras.


The Baltimore government and police agreed on the decree last year, but the new administration of President Donald Trump, promising to empower police to crack down on crime, sought to delay and modify it.


"Today, a federal court entered a consent decree that will require the court and a highly paid monitor to govern every detail of how the Baltimore Police Department functions for the foreseeable future," Sessions said.


"While the Department of Justice continues to fully support police reform in Baltimore, I have grave concerns that some provisions of this decree will reduce the lawful powers of the police department and result in a less-safe city."


Consent decrees are essentially contracts police departments enter into with the Justice Department to implement reforms under federal oversight, and usually arise from rampant corruption and rights abuses in the police.


Around a dozen metropolitan police departments were pushed into such agreements during the previous administration of president Barack Obama, amid a surge of police shootings of unarmed black men.


Those included the cities of Cleveland, Ohio and Ferguson, Missouri, where police shootings prompted local protests and a national outcry.


Baltimore's police came under scathing criticism after the death of Gray, who suffered a severed spine while being transported in the back of a police van with his hands and feet bound.


Police said his death was an accident. Six officers were charged in the case, but all got off after prosecutors failed to provide enough evidence to convict them.


Despite such cases, Sessions has said that US police are too tightly controlled to halt what the government claims is a sharp surge in murder and violent crime. Although down steadily over the past two decades, crime numbers ticked up in 2015, the latest nationwide data available.


But crime has steadily risen in Baltimore. Sessions said violent crime was up 22 percent in 2016 and murders rose 78 percent, and have continued to gain pace this year.


"Meanwhile," he said, "arrests in the city fell 45 percent based on some of these ill-advised reforms."

"There are clear departures from many proven principles of good policing that we fear will result in more crime."

The comment section is a hoot too.  They complain that crime is rising and so we should do anything to keep the cops from fighting it...even though crime has been rising while they are fighting it.
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(04-03-2017, 03:43 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'm sure they justified it to themselves as being against bad people. As I said that 100k in an area where the median income is 20k doesn't magically appear. The guy was probably a drug dealer taking into account his past offenses and the amount of money on hand multiple times when he clams he was robbed, so they made their case work and had no remorse in stealing from a criminal. It's not the way our justice system should work, but it happens more than we know and sometimes to innocent people.

They arrested and jailed a man who didn't do anything.

Doesn't matter what he did in the past...they took away his freedom and his property and his money.  Not to keep the streets safe but to line their own pockets.

It's wrong no matter how it is spun.
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(04-09-2017, 10:50 AM)GMDino Wrote: They arrested and jailed a man who didn't do anything.

Doesn't matter what he did in the past...they took away his freedom and his property and his money.  Not to keep the streets safe but to line their own pockets.

It's wrong no matter how it is spun.

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Quote:Police: Video shows Sacramento cop was violent to jaywalker


A Sacramento police officer is seen on camera punching a man accused of jaywalking. The police department released the dash cam video from the officer's patrol car.

A viral video purporting to show a Sacramento, Calif. police officer beating up an alleged jaywalker has sparked community outrage and an internal affairs investigation.

Sacramento police officials called the incident, which happened Monday, "unacceptable" and have put the officer on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation. Police did not provide the officer's name.


"For an unknown reason, the officer threw the pedestrian to the ground and began striking him in the face with his hand multiple times," read a statement released by police.


The five-minute video, shot by a woman who said she lives in the same apartment complex as the suspected jaywalker, was provided to police and posted to Facebook.

In the video, a young black man is seen facing a white police officer on a street. The pedestrian removes his jacket and the police officer takes him down to the ground, and later appears to be punching him repeatedly.


Dashcam video released by the police agency shows the pedestrian walking along a sidewalk as the officer slowly drives up to him, exits his car and approaches on foot. The audio is garbled, but the officer can be heard telling the pedestrian that he'd earlier been observed jaywalking.

Words are exchanged and the pedestrian is backing away from the officer as the officer repeatedly tells him to get down on the ground, then tackles him and begins punching him repeatedly.

The police department statement says an investigation began after officials watched the officer's in-car camera of the incident.

"The video of this incident portray (sic) actions and behavior that we would consider unacceptable conduct by a Sacramento police officer," the statement said.


The statement said the incident happened in the late afternoon on Monday, when the officer spotted a pedestrian "crossing the street unlawfully."  The officer left his patrol vehicle and gave multiple commands for the pedestrian to stop but the pedestrian ignored the officer, police said in the statement. The two exchanged words and the pedestrian removed his jacket, "challenging the officer to fight," the statement read.


The police department could not immediately be reached for word on whether the pedestrian was arrested or released.
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Jaywalking. Mellow
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(04-13-2017, 11:53 AM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/12/sacramento-calif-police-under-fire-after-violent-altercation-jaywalker-caught-video/100395010/

Jaywalking. Mellow
Yeah... jaywalking is a horse-shit excuse and the repeated punches are completely unacceptable.
I will say though, we are not afforded the opportunity to see if the officer is struck first.
That doesn't excuse the entirety of the officer's actions, just changes the dynamic a bit.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/04/13/officers-fired-after-video-shows-handcuffed-suspect-stomped-head/100439490/


Quote:Officers fired after video shows handcuffed suspect stomped in the head

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LAWRENCEVILLE, Ga. — A second Gwinnett County police officer has been fired after a handcuffed man was stomped in the head while lying on a Georgia street.


On Wednesday around 4 p.m. ET, Master Police Officer Robert McDonald responded to assist a supervisor, Sgt. M.F. Bongiovanni, with a traffic stop at the intersection of Sugarloaf Parkway at Lawrenceville-Suwanee Road.


Cellphone video of the incident shows the driver, Demetrius Hollins, being pulled from the vehicle and stomped by McDonald as he arrived on the scene. McDonald was fired early Thursday.


Later Thursday, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, another video emerged purportedly showing Bongiovanni punching Hollins in the head before McDonald arrived, even though Hollins had his hands up.


The first video to come forward, called "very disturbing" by a police spokesperson, was taken by another driver in traffic.


“What I viewed last night was disturbing to me and disturbing to others,” Gwinnett County Police Chief Butch Ayers said at a Thursday afternoon news conference. “What happened last night involving the officer last night was embarrassing to the Gwinnett County Police and other law enforcement.”


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Initially police said there would be no investigation of Bongiovanni, but Thursday evening he was fired after the second video surfaced.


A police department statement said the two officers violated their training and state law. The department said both men are under criminal investigation.
“The revelations uncovered in this entire investigation are shocking,” the police statement said.


The first video, which was posted online, shows Bongiovanni appearing to yell orders at a handcuffed man who then lies face down in a left-turn lane of the busy intersection. A second officer, McDonald, arrives on the scene, runs up and immediately appears to stomp on the man’s head before both officers eventually pull him to his feet.


After being stopped by police, Hollins, 21, had attempted to restart his car before Bongiovanni pulled him from the vehicle, according to the incident report.
Police wrote that they smelled marijuana from the car that the driver had changed lanes three times without using a signal.


Hollins handed the officer his license and “began to act strange,” according to the incident report. He started yelling, “I need to call my mom,” and, “You have to let me go.”

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The officer said he realized that he had arrested Hollins on Aug. 17, 2016 for having marijuana and a loaded gun in the car. The officer then requested backup, the report states.


"Sir, calm down and let me do my job. I have to make sure your license is good and that the car is not stolen," the officer said.


Hollins replied, "It's not stolen anymore. They stole it from me but I got it back."


Police then asked him to repeat what he just said. Hollins started yelling, "The kids in the neighborhood stole it so I stole it back. It's mine!"


Hollins was becoming angry at this point, according to police. He was pulled from the car, tased and handcuffed while lying on the pavement. That's when McDonald arrived and purportedly stomped or kicked Hollins in the head.


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After the beating, an ambulance crew treated Hollins, who later appeared to have blood on his nose and lip in his booking photo.



McDonald was hired by the department in August 2013 and graduated from the police academy in March 2014. Bongiovanni was hired in 1998 and graduated from the police academy in February 1999, the Journal-Constitution reported.


The incident was the second beating by police this week.


A viral video purporting to show a Sacramento, Calif. police officer beating up an alleged jaywalker Monday sparked community outrage and an internal affairs investigation.


Sacramento police officials called the incident "unacceptable" and put the officer on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.
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(04-09-2017, 10:50 AM)GMDino Wrote: They arrested and jailed a man who didn't do anything.

They arrested Nakoula Basseley Nakoula again?!?
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(04-03-2017, 03:43 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'm sure they justified it to themselves as being against bad people. As I said that 100k in an area where the median income is 20k doesn't magically appear.


A great and honest post.  And we should [maybe?] let 100 of these guys go free to protect the one innocent dude.  There's a whole other thread there

No problems here.  But I'd rather not let obvious drug dealers walk just because corrupt cops tried to strong-arm them.  Both should go to jail.
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(04-14-2017, 01:41 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: A great and honest post.  And we should [maybe?] let 100 of these guys go free to protect the one innocent dude.  There's a whole other thread there

No problems here.  But I'd rather not let obvious drug dealers walk just because corrupt cops tried to strong-arm them.  Both should go to jail.

Sorry, but that's how it works...they can't make stuff up, plant evidence and then arrest you because you were arrested before.  
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(04-14-2017, 01:41 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: A great and honest post.  And we should [maybe?] let 100 of these guys go free to protect the one innocent dude.  There's a whole other thread there

No problems here.  But I'd rather not let obvious drug dealers walk just because corrupt cops tried to strong-arm them.  Both should go to jail.

Aaaah, the old "innocent until framed out of suspicion" principle. Very freedom-y.
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(04-14-2017, 07:22 AM)GMDino Wrote: Sorry, but that's how it works...they can't make stuff up, plant evidence and then arrest you because you were arrested before.  

Really?  So you get to claim the $100k that was "planted" was stolen from you and demand it be returned? I wonder if he will report that money to the IRS....

I'm sure he has a very lucrative candy bar business and that's not drug money or anything of that sort.
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(04-14-2017, 08:41 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Really?  So you get to claim the $100k that was "planted" was stolen from you and demand it be returned?  I wonder if he will report that money to the IRS....

I'm sure he has a very lucrative candy bar business and that's not drug money or anything of that sort.

Really.  This all came to a head because the guy had cameras that caught the cops.  He didn't make it up...like the police officers did.
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(04-14-2017, 07:22 AM)GMDino Wrote: Sorry, but that's how it works...they can't make stuff up, plant evidence and then arrest you because you were arrested before.  

(04-14-2017, 08:41 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Really?  

Yes, really.

There are a lot of rules and laws in place to protect people from this happening.  Those rules were put in place because of the almost unlimited power of the criminal justice system and the problems that could arise when that system is abused by crooked police.

You should probabaly pick up a high scholl civics book and catch up on this stuff.  It is important for citizens to understand their rights.
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Uniform: $800
Tools/equipment/weapons: $1,800
Bulletproof vest: $600
Fully equipped patrol vehicle (with working dash cam and already existing system of storing footage): $45,000
Yearly salary and benefits: $60,000
High quality body camera: $250

Stupid liberals think police departments have money for body cams. They just hate police.
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http://www.wfaa.com/news/balch-springs-police-chief-i-misspoke-on-officer-involved-shooting-that-killed-teen/435734436


Quote:Balch Springs Police Chief: 'I misspoke' on officer-involved shooting that killed teen





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Balch Springs Police held a press conference Monday afternoon and released new details on the officer-involved shooting that killed 15-year-old Jordan Edwards.

According to Balch Springs police, officers responded to a report of intoxicated teenagers on a residential street in the 12300 block of Baron Drive at 11 p.m. Saturday.
Neighbors said a large house party was underway at the time. 


"After further investigation, I have additional information that is contradictory to the information that was provided to me yesterday," Chief Jonathan Haber said.


Originally, Haber said when officers arrived on the street, they heard gunfire and a car filled with passengers backed towards them in reverse.


"I unintentionally, incorrect yesterday when I said the vehicle was backing down the road. In fact, according to the video that I viewed the vehicle was moving forward as the officer was approached."


The officer involved has been with the department for about six years.


"I do have questions in relation to my observation on the video and what is consistent with the policies and core values of the Balch Springs Police Department," Haber said.


When asked about why a rifle was used in the shooting incident, Chief Haber says he cannot comment because it is apart of the ongoing investigation.


Two separate investigations are occurring centered around this incident. One on the officer's actions and one regarding the shooting of Edwards.

WFAA's Bradley Blackburn was live on Facebook at the press conference. You can watch his video below or by clicking here.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jordan-edwards-shooting-video_us_5908a384e4b02655f840f923


Quote:Two days after a Texas police officer was placed on administrative leave in the shooting death of 15-year-old Jordan Edwards, authorities say video of the encounter contradicts internal information they received about it.



Balch Springs Police Chief Jonathan Haber had previously said that an officer had fired at a car of passengers heading toward police in reverse.



But at a press conference on Monday, Haber called that statement “unintentionally incorrect” and said video evidence revealed the car was actually driving away from officers.



“After further investigation, I have additional information that is contradictory to the information that was provided to me,” Haber said.



The police chief did not say who provided the original, incorrect information. He also declined to release a copy of the video to the media.

The unidentified officer at the center of the case shot into a vehicle on Saturday night, killing Edwards, a freshman at Mesquite High School. At the time of the shooting, Edwards and three other teens were riding in a vehicle that Edwards’ 16-year-old brother was driving.


On Sunday, Haber told reporters that an “unknown altercation” had occurred before the shooting, and that the officer opened fire after the vehicle started “backing down the road toward the officers in an aggressive manner.”


But the police chief now says footage from a body-worn camera tells a different story. Haber says he was “unintentionally incorrect … when I said the vehicle was backing down the road. In fact, according to the video that I viewed, the vehicle was moving forward as the officer was approached.”


Dallas attorney Lee Merritt, who represents Edwards’ family, told HuffPost on Monday that the shooting occurred as the teens were leaving a party.


“As they backed out of a parking space, they heard someone shouting profanities at them,” Merritt said. “Before they had a chance to respond, the person shouting at them shot three shots into the vehicle and one of the three rounds went into Jordan Edwards’ forehead.”


Merritt, citing witness statements, said the bullet that killed Edwards “came through the front passenger-side window.”


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Haber said the officer who shot Edwards has been with the department for about six years, and has been placed on administrative leave. He also made it clear he had questions about the account he’d received and why it differed from the camera footage.


“I do have questions in relation to my observation on the video and what is consistent with the policies and core values of the Balch Springs Police Department,” Haber said.

The police chief, citing the ongoing investigation, declined to comment on the weapon the officer used to shoot Edwards.


The Dallas County Medical Examiner’s Office has ruled Edwards’ death a homicide. A spokesperson for that office told HuffPost the teen’s cause of death was a “rifle wound,” but declined to say whether the weapon was an AR-15 ― a rifle popular with law enforcement agencies.


Merritt was unavailable for comment on Tuesday.



Both the Dallas County Sheriff’s Department and District Attorney’s Office are investigating the shooting.
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