Biden Asks For A Dead Congresswoman!

[*Nately120*]

(10-03-2022, 02:25 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: There was an insurrection?  I remember a 3-4 hour minor riot.  CNN reports it was "mostly peaceful".

I trust my eyes more than CNN. Your mileage may vary. 

But it was an insurrection, an uprising against the government.  That's a fact. The debate is whether you think it was right/justified or not. 

[grampahol]

Gee wiz.. I wish I had a dime for everyone who died and I didn't keep score on. Real quick..Name everyone who ever died that you don't remember..  

[grampahol]

(10-03-2022, 02:25 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: There was an insurrection?  I remember a 3-4 hour minor riot.  CNN reports it was "mostly peaceful".

A minor riot is a bar fight. I've been in a few in my lifetime. I have never once attempted to overthrow our constitutional system for a know nothing schmuck. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-29-2022, 01:34 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: The people that marched more than likely just followed the first idiot into the Capitol because the security guards were opening gates and letting them in, which is obvious by the fact that they weren't violent and didn't do anything once in the building because they had no plans of violence or overthrowing anything.

Brad, i would tell you that you should be concerned at your gross ignorance, be it willful or not, but i know it will get me or anyone nowhere so i'm not going to do it. The truth of the matter though, is that there is so much factual information to dispel your love of Trump vs his misdeeds that even someone with a TBI should easily be able to see it. 

To your point, Biden is old and showing signs of poor mental health. He doesn't belong in the oval office just like Trump didn't belong in the Oval Office. 

Back to my original point. Due to the number of people in P&R that do the same thing you do, i generally avoid this place like the plague, which is sad because there are plenty of people here to have civil, educational discussions with but overall, it's like standing at the scene of a bad car wreck and having half of the people try to tell me that there was no car wreck, i just don't know what i'm looking at.

This will be my one and only post to you about this issue because your next step will be to ask me for proof, which i could easily and logically provide (as MANY have done in the past) but you will just ignore it and chalk it up as a personal attack or me not having said proof, which i already know is wrong. 

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...

[BFritz21]

(10-08-2022, 10:26 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Brad, i would tell you that you should be concerned at your gross ignorance, be it willful or not, but i know it will get me or anyone nowhere so i'm not going to do it. The truth of the matter though, is that there is so much factual information to dispel your love of Trump vs his misdeeds that even someone with a TBI should easily be able to see it. 

To your point, Biden is old and showing signs of poor mental health. He doesn't belong in the oval office just like Trump didn't belong in the Oval Office. 

Back to my original point. Due to the number of people in P&R that do the same thing you do, i generally avoid this place like the plague, which is sad because there are plenty of people here to have civil, educational discussions with but overall, it's like standing at the scene of a bad car wreck and having half of the people try to tell me that there was no car wreck, i just don't know what i'm looking at.

This will be my one and only post to you about this issue because your next step will be to ask me for proof, which i could easily and logically provide (as MANY have done in the past) but you will just ignore it and chalk it up as a personal attack or me not having said proof, which i already know is wrong. 

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Seriously? You're claiming that my TBI affects my mental abilities to see things like a normal person and then say that it's not a personal attack?

I don't have a love for Trump; I have a love for our country and putting the best people in position to lead it. Biden's clearly unfit. His latest display of mental decline was when he said "Let me start off with two words: Made in America."

Why didn't Trump belong in the Oval Office? Because he hurt people's feelings? That's exactly what got Biden elected: people voting on emotion instead of what's best for the country.

[BigPapaKain]

As if on queue.

[*Synric*]

For me specifically Trump was the better president because he brought Oil money to WV, lowered the taxes on my business allowing me to expand, and helped with small farming. Biden hasn't been good because he increased my taxes and I havent been able to get my business back to pre-covid and at the beginning of his term the oil companies slacked back on production because they didnt know what was going to happen (although Oil is taking off right now do to world poclitics).

I don't think either were/are good overall presidents... to me its specifically what they do for myself as an individual.


It's funny because my daughter was telling me last year her Senior year in high school that she didnt like Obama. I asked why and it was because the healthy school lunch policy Michelle Obama was a part of has killed lunch in WV schools. While I'm sure it started out trying to do good it has devolved into small portions and not enough food to feed every child in the school.

[*Nately120*]

(10-08-2022, 01:48 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Seriously? You're claiming that my TBI affects my mental abilities to see things like a normal person and then say that it's not a personal attack?

I don't have a love for Trump; I have a love for our country and putting the best people in position to lead it. Biden's clearly unfit. His latest display of mental decline was when he said "Let me start off with two words: Made in America."

Why didn't Trump belong in the Oval Office? Because he hurt people's feelings? That's exactly what got Biden elected: people voting on emotion instead of what's best for the country.

Emotion is what led republicans to toss a ticket of two factually and proven successful republican governors like Johnson and Weld into a 3rd party while embracing a self-serving NYC celebrity as the face of the party.

The GOP went full feelings over facts when they decided that Trump's brand of BS was more important than an actual proven track record from REAL republicans with REAL political experience and REAL policies that led to REAL success.  Trump is pure emotion, and that's why supporting him involves finding it impossible that a guy who gets so many people screaming and yelling at his rallies could ever lose, vote count be damned...look at how emotional Trump supporters are.  They just FEEL like there is no way Biden beat him. 

Trump is like McDonalds...you are allowed to enjoy it, but you should at least admit that you're gorging yourself on absolute garbage.

But why am I even explaining this right now?  Too much coffee AND I'm letting my feelings about needing to spout this basic info overwhelm the fact that it's wasted effort.

[BFritz21]

(10-08-2022, 02:06 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: As if on queue.

I wasn't supposed to respond to it?

(10-08-2022, 02:28 PM)Synric Wrote: For me specifically Trump was the better president because he brought Oil money to WV, lowered the taxes on my business allowing me to expand, and helped with small farming. Biden hasn't been good because he increased my taxes and I havent been able to get my business back to pre-covid and at the beginning of his term the oil companies slacked back on production because they didnt know what was going to happen (although Oil is taking off right now do to world poclitics).

I don't think either were/are good overall presidents... to me its specifically what they do for myself as an individual.


It's funny because my daughter was telling me last year her Senior year in high school that she didnt like Obama. I asked why and it was because the healthy school lunch policy Michelle Obama was a part of has killed lunch in WV schools. While I'm sure it started out trying to do good it has devolved into small portions and not enough food to feed every child in the school.

Trump was good for businesses and the overall economy but people voted for Biden because Trump hurt their feelings.

It's the world we live in today: people do things like vote based on emotion.

You see it now with people still bashing Trump supporters instead of defending Biden.

Libs on my Facebook list still have things like "F*** Trump but never post anything positive about Biden. 

[BFritz21]

(10-08-2022, 03:08 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Emotion is what led republicans to toss a ticket of two factually and proven successful republican governors like Johnson and Weld into a 3rd party while embracing a self-serving NYC celebrity as the face of the party.

The GOP went full feelings over facts when they decided that Trump's brand of BS was more important than an actual proven track record from REAL republicans with REAL political experience and REAL policies that led to REAL success.  Trump is pure emotion, and that's why supporting him involves finding it impossible that a guy who gets so many people screaming and yelling at his rallies could ever lose, vote count be damned...look at how emotional Trump supporters are.  They just FEEL like there is no way Biden beat him. 

Trump is like McDonalds...you are allowed to enjoy it, but you should at least admit that you're gorging yourself on absolute garbage.

But why am I even explaining this right now?  Too much coffee AND I'm letting my feelings about needing to spout this basic info overwhelm the fact that it's wasted effort.

False. Trump brought a new energy to the party and put America first again. Trump was and is conservative but he brought a new energy and new ideas to the party and that's what people wanted and the country needed.

The fact that he wasn't a politician and didn't have a proven track record is exactly why he was a good President because he had new ideas and didn't bow to the masses.

[*Nately120*]

(10-08-2022, 03:25 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: False. Trump brought a new energy to the party and put America first again. Trump was and is conservative but he brought a new energy and new ideas to the party and that's what people wanted and the country needed.

The fact that he wasn't a politician and didn't have a proven track record is exactly why he was a good President because he had new ideas and didn't bow to the masses.

That's all your opinion, and I respect that.

Also, lulz to the idea that a guy who mishandles top secret documents is America-first. Actually now that I think of it, having to deal with a crappy economy in order to get someone who puts America at risk via his lack of interest in guarding top secret information is a way in which I can put America first over my own financial interests.

America first means stopping the complaining about money and putting this country above yourself. We're all in this together.

[NUGDUKWE]

(10-08-2022, 03:20 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I wasn't supposed to respond to it?

Trump was good for businesses and the overall economy but people voted for Biden because Trump hurt their feelings.

It's the world we live in today: people do things like vote based on emotion.

You see it now with people still bashing Trump supporters instead of defending Biden.

Libs on my Facebook list still have things like "F*** Trump but never post anything positive about Biden. 

People voted for Biden because Trump's negatives way outweighed any positives he had not because he hurt people's feelings. In a long list of Trump's negatives was how he wanted to divide the country and that may be something that got lost in Bidens gaffe asking for Jackie. She was a Republican I believe and he was asking for her to give her praise and credit. 

[BigPapaKain]

(10-08-2022, 03:20 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I wasn't supposed to respond to it?

No I expected you to respond.

Almost word for word what I expected you to post, too.

[hollodero]

(10-08-2022, 01:48 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Why didn't Trump belong in the Oval Office? Because he hurt people's feelings?

Nope. It has nothing to do with feelings. If any, I myself would claim that many feelings very much deserve to be hurt, including leftist feelings. But that's not the issue about Trump. The issue about him mainly is that he is a combination of egocentrical and moronic, that he pandered to people's worst instincts, that he told untruths beyond any belief, and sure that he led efforts to declare a legitimate election win illegitimate and a fraud, and then some. Not that you would recognize any of those reasons, I know, there'd be plenty more. I just can tell you one thing that maybe sticks: As a non-American, I can clearly see what gross embarassment Trump was for the US with all of his traits, mainly his dumbness, complete ignorance coupled with his megalomania. Biden is quite flawed, but at least he does not have those traits. Him being measured alone - and hate him as much as you like, even you I'd say cannot deny that he is measured - elevates him. He is a president, albeit maybe an unspectacular one. Trump is a hippo, especially intellectually. That's why he did not belong, mainly. Not to mention his dictatorial traits that you will never recognize anyway. But come on. Even a hard core fan must have realized what dumb shit Trump said every day.

[*bengalfan74*]

(10-08-2022, 10:26 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Brad, i would tell you that you should be concerned at your gross ignorance, be it willful or not, but i know it will get me or anyone nowhere so i'm not going to do it. The truth of the matter though, is that there is so much factual information to dispel your love of Trump vs his misdeeds that even someone with a TBI should easily be able to see it. 

To your point, Biden is old and showing signs of poor mental health. He doesn't belong in the oval office just like Trump didn't belong in the Oval Office. 

Back to my original point. Due to the number of people in P&R that do the same thing you do, i generally avoid this place like the plague, which is sad because there are plenty of people here to have civil, educational discussions with but overall, it's like standing at the scene of a bad car wreck and having half of the people try to tell me that there was no car wreck, i just don't know what i'm looking at.

This will be my one and only post to you about this issue because your next step will be to ask me for proof, which i could easily and logically provide (as MANY have done in the past) but you will just ignore it and chalk it up as a personal attack or me not having said proof, which i already know is wrong. 

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Bingo 

[*bengalfan74*]

(10-08-2022, 10:44 PM)hollodero Wrote: Nope. It has nothing to do with feelings. If any, I myself would claim that many feelings very much deserve to be hurt, including leftist feelings. But that's not the issue about Trump. The issue about him mainly is that he is a combination of egocentrical and moronic, that he pandered to people's worst instincts, that he told untruths beyond any belief, and sure that he led efforts to declare a legitimate election win illegitimate and a fraud, and then some. Not that you would recognize any of those reasons, I know, there'd be plenty more. I just can tell you one thing that maybe sticks: As a non-American, I can clearly see what gross embarassment Trump was for the US with all of his traits, mainly his dumbness, complete ignorance coupled with his megalomania. Biden is quite flawed, but at least he does not have those traits. Him being measured alone - and hate him as much as you like, even you I'd say cannot deny that he is measured - elevates him. He is a president, albeit maybe an unspectacular one. Trump is a hippo, especially intellectually. That's why he did not belong, mainly. Not to mention his dictatorial traits that you will never recognize anyway. But come on. Even a hard core fan must have realized what dumb shit Trump said every day.

This isn't a pro Trump post in any way. But Biden is the biggest liar in the History of Washington. It's well chronicled and goes back years and years. Way before the dementia set in.

[hollodero]

(10-09-2022, 06:37 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: This isn't a pro Trump post in any way. But Biden is the biggest liar in the History of Washington. It's well chronicled and goes back years and years. Way before the dementia set in.

Well, I don't aim to disagree with the notion that Biden lied a lot. I don't really know. If it's most in history, well that I find doubtful though. Most observers seem to give that honor to Trump, and that would also be my impression. Trump lied about every matter big or tiny in a habitual, casual way, plus he showed no remorse when corrected or found out to be lieing. That was different from most other liars, that at least are embarrassed when caught.

But it might be a matter of perspective. So I just say, as a tiny example imagine my surprise when the president of the United States told the world that people in my country live in forest cities - we call them that - with very explosive trees, and yet we're fine for we're smarter than California, which was his whole point. Something Trump just made up and let out unfiltered to be nasty to Californian democrats. This kind of lieing is a whole different category for me. And Trump did it all the time.

[BigPapaKain]

(10-09-2022, 06:37 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: This isn't a pro Trump post in any way. But Biden is the biggest liar in the History of Washington. It's well chronicled and goes back years and years. Way before the dementia set in.

A lifelong politician who is a liar?

STOP THE PRESSES!!! We've gotta run this story front page on every newspaper and website from Google to PornHub!

[Dill]

(10-08-2022, 03:20 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Trump was good for businesses and the overall economy but people voted for Biden because Trump hurt their feelings.

It's the world we live in today: people do things like vote based on emotion.

You see it now with people still bashing Trump supporters instead of defending Biden.

Libs on my Facebook list still have things like "F*** Trump but never post anything positive about Biden. 

Right now millions in MAGA world believe that Biden stole the election.

But they dismiss all proof to the contrary. E.g., think of AZ with three audits, including the illegal one run by Republican deniers themselves. No fraud found. Yet that changed no MAGA minds. They want a governor and other state officials who will do the right thing if a Democrat wins the next election--and declare fraud.

Do you think these Trump supporters' belief that Biden stole the lection is based upon emotion, or something else? 
Did those tasked with counting votes hurt MAGA feelings when they accurately tallied those votes? 

And emotion isn't limited to votes; that's why thousands over ran the Capitol on Jan. 6 to kill members of Congress. You'll agree that those engaged in the coup attempt, from various state RNCs to the WH staff to the actual rioters were acting on emotion, won't you?  

I'm a bit puzzled that you have thrown up "emotion" as a poor reason for voting, while defending the guy who used to recite the snake poem in the context of refugees, and regularly framed minorities as bearers of crime and disease because his rally goers loved it.

[Dill]

(10-08-2022, 02:28 PM)Synric Wrote: For me specifically Trump was the better president because he brought Oil money to WV, lowered the taxes on my business allowing me to expand, and helped with small farming. Biden hasn't been good because he increased my taxes and I havent been able to get my business back to pre-covid and at the beginning of his term the oil companies slacked back on production because they didnt know what was going to happen (although Oil is taking off right now do to world poclitics).

I don't think either were/are good overall presidents... to me its specifically what they do for myself as an individual.

You have laid out some very clear criteria to guide your vote for president. 

But I'm curious--have you ever considered that raising your taxes might be good for the nation? for WV (if that's where you live)? 

I don't know what tax bracket you are in, but there was a time when many people saw taxation in relation to the public good. And it
mattered whether the face of the nation was a good person and understood how government worked. If I understand you, those sorts
of ethical considerations take a back burner to oil money and lower taxes. 

Also, I'm guessing that you don't see much connection between U.S. foreign policy in general and your personal good. So whatever
Trump did there didn't do any long term damage.