Biden Calls Reporter A "Stupid SOB"

[GMDino]

(01-28-2022, 11:15 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: I'll make it extremely short this morning and only say this as a response.

I don't believe our country is headed in the right direction under our current leadership.

Maybe, maybe not.  But we, at the very least, are at least following the law and do not have a POTUS that wants to be an autocrat and is willing to do anything (legal or not) to maintain power.

That's a step in the right direction.

[masonbengals fan]

The step in the right direction will take place this Fall.

[BFritz21]

(01-28-2022, 11:15 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: I'll make it extremely short this morning and only say this as a response.

I don't believe our country is headed in the right direction under our current leadership.

Because the Dems have no direction.

(01-28-2022, 11:22 AM)GMDino Wrote: Maybe, maybe not.  But we, at the very least, are at least following the law and do not have a POTUS that wants to be an autocrat and is willing to do anything (legal or not) to maintain power.

That's a step in the right direction.

There's no maybe about it because we're definitely not, and there you go again like Trump was trying to start a revolution and ignore the fact that he said "peacefully and patriotically."

[BFritz21]

(01-28-2022, 11:53 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: The step in the right direction will take place this Fall.

God willing 

[GMDino]

(01-28-2022, 11:59 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Because the Dems have no direction.

There's no maybe about it because we're definitely not, and there you go again like Trump was trying to start a revolution and ignore the fact that he said "peacefully and patriotically."

It goes beyond the attack on 1/6 Brad.

There was much more to his attempts to ignore the election results and hold on to power.  You can willfully ignore it but that doesn't make it any less true.

[GMDino]

(01-28-2022, 11:53 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: The step in the right direction will take place this Fall.

How do you figure?

What is the GOP platform that will change the direction of the nation?

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[*Nately120*]

(01-28-2022, 12:42 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote:

I'd love to believe the GOP actually had intention to follow up on those points, but their actions leave me skeptical. 

Neo cons perception of what following the constitution consists of starts that list off on a disingenuous foot, as far as i see it. 

No inflation?  In a country that prints its own money and "stands up" to countries all the time?  Pipe dream.  And the GOP want a fair trade, my arse. Oy, I could go on but meh...just my 2 cents.  

[Belsnickel]

(01-28-2022, 11:15 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: I'll make it extremely short this morning and only say this as a response.

I don't believe our country is headed in the right direction under our current leadership.

I don't believe so, either. But that's also because we are being led by a slate of politicians that aren't listening to the people.

[*Nately120*]

(01-28-2022, 03:14 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't believe so, either. But that's also because we are being led by a slate of politicians that aren't listening to the people.

I know it is a bit of a chicken vs egg thing, but are politicians leading us into madness or is madness simply giving us the political slate we demand?  Our population is increasingly losing the ability to have anything resembling a logical debate because we are refusing to accept common beliefs or realities.

Politicians are giving people what they want, and people want a list of things like in that posted cartoon that are nice ideas in theory, but not reflected in policy.  We don't operationally define before we debate.  

Covid - 5.6 million dead or "no big deal"
Joe Biden - moderate liberal or dangerous communist
Socialism- just what the hell do we think this is?
Uphold the Constitution - what does this mean to you?  To each party?


And so on and so forth.  I feel like at least one political party is listening to the people, and the people want a bunch of unsubstantiated BS that paints the world in a black and white state of good vs evil.  If I try to explain why I don't hate that Biden is president, I just need to know if the person I'm going to enter into a discussion with thinks he's a baby-eating communist, or not.  I guess I took this in a bit of a generic direction. 

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(01-28-2022, 12:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'd love to believe the GOP actually had intention to follow up on those points, but their actions leave me skeptical. 

Neo cons perception of what following the constitution consists of starts that list off on a disingenuous foot, as far as i see it. 

No inflation?  In a country that prints its own money and "stands up" to countries all the time?  Pipe dream.  And the GOP want a fair trade, my arse. Oy, I could go on but meh...just my 2 cents.  

 Don't get me wrong I'm skeptical too. But at least one side says they will try to accomplish things that are closer to my beliefs.

The current bunch, not so much.

 And no I don't want Trump back. He lost my support when he wasn't immediately in front of a camera telling those people to stop on Jan. 6th.

[*Nately120*]

(01-28-2022, 04:21 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote:  Don't get me wrong I'm skeptical too. But at least one side says they will try to accomplish things that are closer to my beliefs.

The current bunch, not so much.

 And no I don't want Trump back. He lost my support when he wasn't immediately in front of a camera telling those people to stop on Jan. 6th.

Fair enough, it just seems like the GOP is really going above and beyond with the empty talking points as of late.  But I can relate to your mindset, though I've been more on the side of democrats being at least in the ballpark on stuff I'd want.

I'm also letting some of the more vocal nuts on the GOP side taint my view, I'm sure.  I feel like a logical statement like "I'll uphold the Constitution" is pretty much code speak for "Give me a bunch of money so I can sue facebook!"  

[GMDino]

(01-28-2022, 12:42 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote:

That list! 

Still GOP members refusing to say Biden won the election.
GOP members passing laws to make it harder to vote, while claiming a fraud that doesn't exist.
Borders are secure...just no wall that wasn't going to work and Mexico wasn't going tp pay for.
When the price of oil is high enough...we are closer to that..
Trade with who?  What has been proposed to make trade more "fair"?
I agree that the mandates from the government was over-reach.  Now let's talk about the republicans running on a campaign against Fauci and anything that suggests covid is bad.
Iran was much further from nukes before DJT blew up their agreement with them.  Biden is trying to fix that.
If "parents rights" means passing laws allowing parents to sue if they feel their child was made "uncomfortable" or banning books then I strongly disagree with the republican version of "parents rights".
What gop plan will get rid of inflation?
The military budget went up...again.
I don't think Biden has said he's in love with XI or Putin...maybe I missed it.

Essentially that list is bogus.

(01-28-2022, 04:21 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote:  Don't get me wrong I'm skeptical too. But at least one side says they will try to accomplish things that are closer to my beliefs.

The current bunch, not so much.

 And no I don't want Trump back. He lost my support when he wasn't immediately in front of a camera telling those people to stop on Jan. 6th.

And if you believe they will actually do anything other than "say they will try" I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

But at least you're honest that you think the country is headed the wrong way because you believe the gop talking points.

[masonbengals fan]

That's you're opinion. Means about as much as mine.

[CJD]

(01-28-2022, 11:59 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Because the Dems have no direction.

Whether you agree or disagree with their politics, the Democrats have a very clear direction. They want to lower the burden of student debt (many want to cancel it entirely) and the cost of higher education, they want to decrease medical expenses (both pharmaceutical drugs and hospital care), they want to increase the social safety net and they want to spend a lot of money on infrastructure, a fair portion of it being towards curbing the causes of global warming and environmental change (electric cars, green energy etc etc).

The Republicans, on the other hand, I couldn't really tell you what their direction is. They have very nebulous buzz phrases like "bring back jobs" and "defeat Communist China" but they had control of the Senate and the Presidency and, for a time, the house when Trump was president and they basically didn't do anything (policy wise) other than a huge corporate tax cut. Is that their direction? They did ALMOST take away millions of people's health insurance, but one of the very few principled Republicans left in the world, John McCain, miraculously killed it. Then he died.

Overall, they feel very much like empty rhetoric and fear mongering with no policy proposals behind them.

The Democrat's major problem is they are wildly incompetent and there is a major split between progressives and moderates such that they can't get out of their own way to accomplish their very clear directions/policies that they keep promising us they believe in. You saw it with the Build Back Better plan or whatever it was called. All they had to do was use their voting numbers to pass it, but they had two revolters in their ranks that screeched the plan to a halt. What was a miracle for the Republicans (McCain sabotaging Trump's goal to take away healthcare) is basically commonplace for the Democrats.

[GMDino]

(01-28-2022, 05:52 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: That's you're opinion. Means about as much as mine.

There might be a two or three "opinions" in my response...that's it.

But if you have facts about the gop platform please share.

[GMDino]

Even when Biden says things directly into the mic clearly the rnc/gop tries to distort it into something to make him look worse than he is.

This is so freaking dishonest. Biden's whole quote was: "I'm not gonna take any questions, because I think it's inappropriate to take questions with the justice here. He's still sitting on the bench."

The RNC is out here just blatantly lying to people. https://t.co/6QqDordn9u

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 27, 2022

 

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(01-28-2022, 09:24 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Whether you agree or disagree with their politics, the Democrats have a very clear direction. They want to lower the burden of student debt (many want to cancel it entirely) and the cost of higher education, they want to decrease medical expenses (both pharmaceutical drugs and hospital care), they want to increase the social safety net and they want to spend a lot of money on infrastructure, a fair portion of it being towards curbing the causes of global warming and environmental change (electric cars, green energy etc etc).

The Republicans, on the other hand, I couldn't really tell you what their direction is. They have very nebulous buzz phrases like "bring back jobs" and "defeat Communist China" but they had control of the Senate and the Presidency and, for a time, the house when Trump was president and they basically didn't do anything (policy wise) other than a huge corporate tax cut. Is that their direction? They did ALMOST take away millions of people's health insurance, but one of the very few principled Republicans left in the world, John McCain, miraculously killed it. Then he died.

Overall, they feel very much like empty rhetoric and fear mongering with no policy proposals behind them.

The Democrat's major problem is they are wildly incompetent and there is a major split between progressives and moderates such that they can't get out of their own way to accomplish their very clear directions/policies that they keep promising us they believe in. You saw it with the Build Back Better plan or whatever it was called. All they had to do was use their voting numbers to pass it, but they had two revolters in their ranks that screeched the plan to a halt. What was a miracle for the Republicans (McCain sabotaging Trump's goal to take away healthcare) is basically commonplace for the Democrats.

I can give you three GOP positions off the top of my head that I vastly prefer over the Dem's version.  The first two, unsurprisingly, have to do with actually upholding the law.  One, start actually prosecuting criminals for their actions and impose punitive consequences; two, actually enforce immigration laws as written; and three, give us back our energy independence by removing restriction on fracking and other drilling imposed by Biden that directly led to much higher gas prices.

While I would agree with you that the GOP's platform is more anti-Dem than vice versa, to say they have no platform at all is disingenuous. 

[CJD]

(01-29-2022, 01:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I can give you three GOP positions off the top of my head that I vastly prefer over the Dem's version.  The first two, unsurprisingly, have to do with actually upholding the law.  One, start actually prosecuting criminals for their actions and impose punitive consequences; two, actually enforce immigration laws as written; and three, give us back our energy independence by removing restriction on fracking and other drilling imposed by Biden that directly led to much higher gas prices.

While I would agree with you that the GOP's platform is more anti-Dem than vice versa, to say they have no platform at all is disingenuous. 

The first two aren't really policies. At least not new policies. They are both inherently anti-dem statements because they imply that the democrats are violating the laws. It comes down to the details, but I don't think democratic prosecutors choosing not to pursue misdemeanors (if this isn't what you're referring to, you can elaborate) is defying the laws as written. Nor do I think accepting asylum seekers who are fleeing conflict that America had a large part in creating is defying the law either (again, if you're referring to something else, elaborate).

The third is at least a policy, so I'll give you that one, although I question whether Biden changes had as much of an impact on gas prices as you think, rather than the increase in demand as people return to work and the continued supply chain issues associated with the pandemic.

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(01-29-2022, 11:35 AM)GMDino Wrote: There might be a two or three "opinions" in my response...that's it.

But if you have facts about the gop platform please share.

I stopped reading at the borders are secure part. 

If you can post that one & worst yet truly believe it, then I needn't bother.