Biden RCP early polling on top issues

[Luvnit2]

Biden has a lot of work to do. He is way under water on all of the issues polled. We are about 1 year out from the 2024 election. Can Biden turn these numbers around while also getting older and losing cognitive abilities? If not, at what point do Democrats install Newsome or Harris as the nominee?

Polling Data Biden Job Approval
Poll Date Sample
Approve

Disapprove

Spread
RCP Average 10/16 - 11/1 -- 40.8 55.9 -15.1
The Messenger/HarrisX 10/30 - 11/1 2021 RV 41 56 -15
Daily Kos/Civiqs 10/28 - 10/31 1112 RV 37 55 -18
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 40 57 -17
Rasmussen Reports 10/26 - 11/1 1500 LV 41 58 -17
Quinnipiac 10/26 - 10/30 1610 RV 39 58 -19
Newsnation 10/23 - 10/24 1000 RV 44 56 -12
USA Today/Suffolk 10/17 - 10/20 1000 RV 40 56 -16
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 44 53 -9
CBS News 10/16 - 10/19 1878 A 40 60 -20
Emerson 10/16 - 10/17 1578 RV 42 50 -8


Polling Data Biden Economy

Poll Date Sample

Approve

Disapprove

Spread

RCP Average 10/4 - 10/31 -- 38.0 59.5 -21.5
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 42 52 -10
Quinnipiac 10/26 - 10/30 1610 RV 40 57 -17
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 41 59 -18
CBS News 10/16 - 10/19 1878 A 37 63 -26
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1121 RV 38 58 -20
ABC News/Ipsos 10/13 - 10/14 518 A 36 61 -25
CNBC 10/11 - 10/15 1001 A 32 63 -31
Grinnell/Selzer 10/10 - 10/15 784 LV 39 58 -19
FOX News 10/6 - 10/9 1007 RV 37 62 -25
CNN 10/4 - 10/9 RV 38 62 -24

Polling Data Biden Foreign Policy
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/4 - 10/30 -- 38.0 57.6 -19.6
Economist/YouGov 10/21 - 10/24 1296 RV 39 54 -15
Quinnipiac 10/26 - 10/30 1610 RV 36 59 -23
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 43 57 -14
CNBC 10/11 - 10/15 1001 A 31 60 -29
CNN 10/4 - 10/9 RV 41 58 -17

Polling Data Biden Inflation
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/6 - 10/31 -- 33.6 63.2 -29.6
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 35 59 -24
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 40 60 -20
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1118 RV 34 61 -27
ABC News/Ipsos 10/13 - 10/14 518 A 29 69 -40
FOX News 10/6 - 10/9 1007 RV 30 67 -37


Polling Data Biden Immigration
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/4 - 10/24 -- 33.0 64.4 -31.4
Economist/YouGov 10/21 - 10/24 1296 RV 31 63 -32
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 39 61 -22
CBS News 10/16 - 10/19 1878 A 32 68 -36
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1119 RV 32 62 -30
CNN 10/4 - 10/9 RV 31 68 -37

Polling Data Biden Crime
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/12 - 10/31 -- 36.3 58.0 -21.7
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 36 54 -18
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 41 59 -18
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1120 RV 35 55 -20
ABC News/Ipsos 10/13 - 10/14 518 A 33 64 -31


Polling Data Biden Direction of Country
Poll Date Sample
Right Direction
Wrong Track
Spread
RCP Average 10/17 - 10/31 -- 24.8 65.4 -40.6
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 21 70 -49
Newsnation 10/23 - 10/24 1000 RV 23 63 -40
Rasmussen Reports 10/22 - 10/26 1555 LV 30 65 -35
USA Today/Suffolk 10/17 - 10/20 1000 RV 17 71 -54
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 33 58 -25
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[*Nately120*]

Wasn't this exact thread posted yesterday and didn't I reply to it? Maybe I've finally engaged in so much pointless internet pollical debate that I've lost my mind.

[Dill]

(11-03-2023, 10:29 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Biden has a lot of work to do. He is way under water on all of the issues polled. We are about 1 year out from the 2024 election. Can Biden turn these numbers around while also getting older and losing cognitive abilities? If not, at what point do Democrats install Newsome or Harris as the nominee?

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/16 - 11/1 -- 40.8 55.9 -15.1
The Messenger/HarrisX 10/30 - 11/1 2021 RV 41 56 -15
Daily Kos/Civiqs 10/28 - 10/31 1112 RV 37 55 -18
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 40 57 -17
Rasmussen Reports 10/26 - 11/1 1500 LV 41 58 -17
Quinnipiac 10/26 - 10/30 1610 RV 39 58 -19
Newsnation 10/23 - 10/24 1000 RV 44 56 -12
USA Today/Suffolk 10/17 - 10/20 1000 RV 40 56 -16
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 44 53 -9
CBS News 10/16 - 10/19 1878 A 40 60 -20
Emerson 10/16 - 10/17 1578 RV 42 50 -8
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/4 - 10/31 -- 38.0 59.5 -21.5
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 42 52 -10
Quinnipiac 10/26 - 10/30 1610 RV 40 57 -17
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 41 59 -18
CBS News 10/16 - 10/19 1878 A 37 63 -26
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1121 RV 38 58 -20
ABC News/Ipsos 10/13 - 10/14 518 A 36 61 -25
CNBC 10/11 - 10/15 1001 A 32 63 -31
Grinnell/Selzer 10/10 - 10/15 784 LV 39 58 -19
FOX News 10/6 - 10/9 1007 RV 37 62 -25
CNN 10/4 - 10/9 RV 38 62 -24
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/4 - 10/30 -- 38.0 57.6 -19.6
Economist/YouGov 10/21 - 10/24 1296 RV 39 54 -15
Quinnipiac 10/26 - 10/30 1610 RV 36 59 -23
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 43 57 -14
CNBC 10/11 - 10/15 1001 A 31 60 -29
CNN 10/4 - 10/9 RV 41 58 -17
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/6 - 10/31 -- 33.6 63.2 -29.6
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 35 59 -24
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 40 60 -20
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1118 RV 34 61 -27
ABC News/Ipsos 10/13 - 10/14 518 A 29 69 -40
FOX News 10/6 - 10/9 1007 RV 30 67 -37
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/4 - 10/24 -- 33.0 64.4 -31.4
Economist/YouGov 10/21 - 10/24 1296 RV 31 63 -32
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 39 61 -22
CBS News 10/16 - 10/19 1878 A 32 68 -36
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1119 RV 32 62 -30
CNN 10/4 - 10/9 RV 31 68 -37
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread
RCP Average 10/12 - 10/31 -- 36.3 58.0 -21.7
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 36 54 -18
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 41 59 -18
Yahoo News 10/12 - 10/16 1120 RV 35 55 -20
ABC News/Ipsos 10/13 - 10/14 518 A 33 64 -31

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Right Direction
Wrong Track
Spread
RCP Average 10/17 - 10/31 -- 24.8 65.4 -40.6
Economist/YouGov 10/28 - 10/31 1333 RV 21 70 -49
Newsnation 10/23 - 10/24 1000 RV 23 63 -40
Rasmussen Reports 10/22 - 10/26 1555 LV 30 65 -35
USA Today/Suffolk 10/17 - 10/20 1000 RV 17 71 -54
Harvard-Harris 10/18 - 10/19 2116 RV 33 58 -25
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Can't really follow this. 

Sometimes I think Americans should vote Trump back in office. 

I feel like a bar tender who is just tired of trying to stop people from driving home drunk
while they declare they know what they are doing and besides they made it home just fine last time.

Eff it. Here, have another shot on the house and be on your way.

[Luvnit2]

(11-03-2023, 11:03 PM)Dill Wrote: Can't really follow this. 

Sometimes I think Americans should vote Trump back in office. 

I feel like a bar tender who is just tired of trying to stop people from driving home drunk
while they declare they know what they are doing and besides they made it home just fine last time.

Eff it. Here, have another shot on the house and be on your way.

It is a breakdown of all of the main issues as identified by voters polling results for past 30 days, so multiple polls. I will edit and bold some things to help you better comprehend the numbers on Biden's job performance around 1 year prior to the 2024 election.

[Dill]

(11-04-2023, 12:15 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is a breakdown of all of the main issues as identified by voters polling results for past 30 days, so multiple polls. I will edit and bold some things to help you better comprehend the numbers on Biden's job performance around 1 year prior to the 2024 election.

Yeah, I'd like to see that.

How are unemployment and wages at the moment.

[Luvnit2]

(11-04-2023, 11:52 AM)Dill Wrote: Yeah, I'd like to see that.

How are unemployment and wages at the moment.

Those 2 are lumped into the economy and or inflation numbers for Biden. He is underwater 21.5%, only 38% feel he is doing a good job with the economy. On inflation on 33.6% feels he is doing a good job, down 29.6%. These numbers are significant as they indicate his base Democrats are not happy nor are independents.

He has time to improve his numbers, but he has an uphill battle as the middle class and lower income voters feel the inflation and income gaps more so than the upper class.

[Luvnit2]

More Bad Polling for Biden, this time in states Biden won in 2020.

The NYT-Siena College poll surveyed 3,662 registered voters in the six states from Oct. 22 to Nov. 3.

Sunday, November 5
Race/Topic   (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Georgia: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 49, Biden 43 Trump +6
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 48, Biden 44 Trump +4
Michigan: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 48, Biden 43 Trump +5
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 45, Biden 47 Biden +2
Nevada: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 52, Biden 41 Trump +11
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 49, Biden 44 Trump +5

Any liberals concerned yet? Below is why Biden is losing.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leading-biden-5-key-battleground-states-voters-cringe-biden-age-poll

Trump leading Biden in 5 key battleground states as voters cringe at Biden's age: poll

71% of voters say Biden is too old to be an effective president, including 54% of his own supporters


Biden had defeated Trump in all six states during the 2020 election. Combining the polling in all six states gives Trump a 48-44 lead over Biden.

[GMDino]

(11-05-2023, 12:23 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: More Bad Polling for Biden, this time in states Biden won in 2020.

The NYT-Siena College poll surveyed 3,662 registered voters in the six states from Oct. 22 to Nov. 3.

Sunday, November 5
Race/Topic   (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Georgia: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 49, Biden 43 Trump +6
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 48, Biden 44 Trump +4
Michigan: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 48, Biden 43 Trump +5
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 45, Biden 47 Biden +2
Nevada: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 52, Biden 41 Trump +11
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena Trump 49, Biden 44 Trump +5

Any liberals concerned yet? Below is why Biden is losing.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-leading-biden-5-key-battleground-states-voters-cringe-biden-age-poll

Trump leading Biden in 5 key battleground states as voters cringe at Biden's age: poll

71% of voters say Biden is too old to be an effective president, including 54% of his own supporters


Biden had defeated Trump in all six states during the 2020 election. Combining the polling in all six states gives Trump a 48-44 lead over Biden.

In the beginning November. 2015 BEN CARSON was the leading republican in the polls.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/ben-carson-donald-trump-poll/index.html
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carson-leads-popularity-trump-gop-poll/story?id=35084486

By November 22nd P01135809 was the leader.


One week later P01135809's lead dropped 12 points.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/28/donald-trump-suffers-his-largest-drop-in-polls-after-week-of-controversy

It's difficult to find polls between hm and Clinton because neither was the confirmed candidate yet.  In fact many people, especially republicans, figured P01135809 would eventually end up losing to an established candidate.

So, no, I'm not worried about polls one year out.  Especially when the reasoning is coming from FOX.

Hope that answered your question. 

[Luvnit2]

(11-05-2023, 12:48 PM)GMDino Wrote: In the beginning November. 2015 BEN CARSON was the leading republican in the polls.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/ben-carson-donald-trump-poll/index.html
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carson-leads-popularity-trump-gop-poll/story?id=35084486

By November 22nd P01135809 was the leader.


One week later P01135809's lead dropped 12 points.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/28/donald-trump-suffers-his-largest-drop-in-polls-after-week-of-controversy

It's difficult to find polls between hm and Clinton because neither was the confirmed candidate yet.  In fact many people, especially republicans, figured P01135809 would eventually end up losing to an established candidate.

So, no, I'm not worried about polls one year out.  Especially when the reasoning is coming from FOX.

Hope that answered your question. 

It is a Sienna poll. Feel free to dive into it as Fox did for underlying poll results. This is not for the nomination for a party, this is for a sitting POTUS whose own party (54%) think he is too old in addition to being underwater on the Economy, Inflation, Immigration, Foreign policy.

Biden has a record to run out as sitting POTUS, no one you are citing does,

[Luvnit2]

Another liberal, Axelrod is calling for Biden to step away.

Should he?

Will He?

How does he change the narrative his polices are killing the middle and lower class and he is too old? He has 12 months.

[Luvnit2]

FYI

It also appears the No Labels party is looking to run a candidate. The leader said they will make a decision in spring of 2024 who the POTUS and VP candidate will be.

These poll numbers state to state from Sienna also do no include RFK Jr. or West.

[CJD]

The major advantage Trump has in this election is that the people who plan on voting for him actually really like him.

You can't really say the same for Biden.

In a lot of ways, I envy the conservatives.

I would kill (metaphorically) to have a politician that I desperately love and believe in running for president and having a real, legitimate and substantial chance at winning.

[*Nately120*]

(11-06-2023, 02:19 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Another liberal, Axelrod is calling for Biden to step away.

Should he?

Will He?

How does he change the narrative his polices are killing the middle and lower class and he is too old? He has 12 months.

As I said before, I wouldn't rule out democrats talking Biden into handing the proverbial baton to Newsom given that he will be 20 years younger than Trump at the time of the 2024 election.  Newsom is in that sweet spot age wise where he isn't young but he's not old, he's 6'3 and he has a full head of hair so he fits the superficial checklist of a candidate better than Biden does and his approval rating has to be higher than Biden's.

It's possible democrats let the GOP talk about how we can't pick an old guy to be president before they offer up a candidate who is 20 years Trump's junior.

Would Newsom be a good president?  Probably not, but we're talking about getting elected here and when you point out Biden being old and unpopular, well Newsom is less of those things.  I do believe if the GOP had moved on from Trump that Biden wouldn't have sought reelection.

[StoneTheCrow]

(11-06-2023, 02:29 PM)Nately120 Wrote: As I said before, I wouldn't rule out democrats talking Biden into handing the proverbial baton to Newsom given that he will be 20 years younger than Trump at the time of the 2024 election.  Newsom is in that sweet spot age wise where he isn't young but he's not old, he's 6'3 and he has a full head of hair so he fits the superficial checklist of a candidate better than Biden does and his approval rating has to be higher than Biden's.

It's possible democrats let the GOP talk about how we can't pick an old guy to be president before they offer up a candidate who is 20 years Trump's junior.

Would Newsom be a good president?  Probably not, but we're talking about getting elected here and when you point out Biden being old and unpopular, well Newsom is less of those things.  I do believe if the GOP had moved on from Trump that Biden wouldn't have sought reelection.

They gonna just skip right past the African American female VP for another white male?

[Belsnickel]

We are a full year from the election. A lot can happen in a year. That is all that needs to be said about polling right now.

[*Nately120*]

(11-06-2023, 02:52 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: They gonna just skip right past the African American female VP for another white male?

If they are smart, yes.  They gave Hillary a shot and then freaked out when people started floating Elizabeth Warren for 2020 and realized they needed their own old, white, bag of dicks in order to win back the WH.

It is interesting how other than Biden, we've been on a real roll when it comes to VP's who never become presidential candidates.  You had Truman and Nixon and LBJ and Humphrey and Ford and Mondale and HW Bush and Gore and the VP was a springboard to at least running for president, but then Cheney just sort of blew it all up and he and Pence and Harris are major no-gos for the presidency.

Maybe democrats blunder into putting her on the ticket once, but I think 2016 has scared them off that mindset. 

I think democrats run Biden and hope he can get 1 more term and then look into Newsom or (hopefully) someone like Josh Shapiro or Mark Kelly...new-ish democrats who won in swing states.

[Goalpost]

Joe 'is' old. I don't say that cruely. But his date of birth is November 1942. It's a factor with the all responsibilities expected of the office.

[*Nately120*]

(11-06-2023, 03:18 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Joe 'is' old.  I don't say that cruely.  But his date of birth is November 1942.  It's a factor with the all responsibilities expected of the office.

Biden is too old to be president

Trump is too Trump to be president

3rd parties are too 3rd party to be president

...we made our beds.


I recall it being reported that some WH staff member or cabinet member or campaign member brought up concern about Biden's age and he replied with "You think I don't know how f***ing old I am!?"

[GMDino]

I was trying to think if I was ever called for a poll like this.

I remember once when we still had a landline at home, but it was all local races.  And I *think* i got one at work years and years ago but I'm not 100% sure if that was a presidential poll or not.

My point being these polls are not necessarily reflective of the general population either, no matter how hard they try.

[*Nately120*]

(11-07-2023, 11:56 AM)GMDino Wrote: I was trying to think if I was ever called for a poll like this.

I remember once when we still had a landline at home, but it was all local races.  And I *think* i got one at work years and years ago but I'm not 100% sure if that was a presidential poll or not.

My point being these polls are not necessarily reflective of the general population either, no matter how hard they try.

I usually ignore this stuff, but sometimes when a poll worker calls me I start talking about the libertarian party and I can hear them trying to politely get off the phone with me.