Bolivia kicks out DEA, cocaine production plummets

[Devils Advocate]

Link to the Stink

Quote:Bolivia — After the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) was kicked out of Bolivia, the country was able to drastically reduce the amount of coca (cocaine) produced within its borders.

There's nothing to see here ...

[6andcounting]

The CIA bringing cocaine to poor, black communities is supposed to be a dumb conspiracy - not a 3 decade old standard practice.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Government intervention FTW

[SteelCitySouth]

(08-28-2015, 04:11 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Government intervention FTW

LOL...You do realize this is one governmental agency taking over for another governmental agency.  Therefor any and all "wins" would be attributed to a governmental agency.

It's like I don't even have to try.

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-28-2015, 04:19 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: LOL...You do realize this is one governmental agency taking over for another governmental agency.  Therefor any and all "wins" would be attributed to a governmental agency.

It's like I don't even have to try.

Maybe in your next post you can be a little more transparent. 

This post makes zero sense.  

[fredtoast]

(08-28-2015, 10:27 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Maybe in your next post you can be a little more transparent. 

This post makes zero sense.  

So you really were giving congratulations to liberal government intervention for reducing the cocaine crop in Bolivia?  Or did you not read the article?


http://theantimedia.org/cocaine-production-plummets-after-dea-kicked-out-of-bolivia/


The strategy employed by the Bolivian government may be a surprise to many prohibitionists because it did not involve any strong-arm police state tactics.


“Bolivia has adopted a policy based on dialogue, where coca cultivation is allowed in traditional areas alongside alternative development [in others],”Antonino de Leo, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime’s representative in Bolivia, told VICE News.

“It’s not only about making money off a crop. In the old fashioned alternative development approach, we substitute one illicit crop for a licit crop. It’s about a more comprehensive approach that includes access to essential services like schools, hospitals, and roads in areas that traditionally have been hard to reach,” Leo added.

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-30-2015, 01:12 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So you really were giving congratulations to liberal government intervention for reducing the cocaine crop in Bolivia?  Or did you not read the article?


The strategy employed by the Bolivian government may be a surprise to many prohibitionists because it did not involve any strong-arm police state tactics.

How does this qualify as liberal government intervention?

[fredtoast]

(08-30-2015, 01:43 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: How does this qualify as liberal government intervention?

Because the government intervened to address the problem.  That is considered a liberal practice.  

Conservatives would have just said "Let the free market take care of it." or "We need to stop being soft on criminals."

[SteelCitySouth]

(08-28-2015, 04:19 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: LOL...You do realize this is one governmental agency taking over for another governmental agency.  Therefor any and all "wins" would be attributed to a governmental agency.

It's like I don't even have to try.

(08-28-2015, 10:27 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Maybe in your next post you can be a little more transparent. 

This post makes zero sense.  

(08-30-2015, 01:12 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So you really were giving congratulations to liberal government intervention for reducing the cocaine crop in Bolivia?  Or did you not read the article?


http://theantimedia.org/cocaine-production-plummets-after-dea-kicked-out-of-bolivia/


The strategy employed by the Bolivian government may be a surprise to many prohibitionists because it did not involve any strong-arm police state tactics.


“Bolivia has adopted a policy based on dialogue, where coca cultivation is allowed in traditional areas alongside alternative development [in others],”Antonino de Leo, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime’s representative in Bolivia, told VICE News.

“It’s not only about making money off a crop. In the old fashioned alternative development approach, we substitute one illicit crop for a licit crop. It’s about a more comprehensive approach that includes access to essential services like schools, hospitals, and roads in areas that traditionally have been hard to reach,” Leo added.

(08-30-2015, 01:43 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: How does this qualify as liberal government intervention?

(09-03-2015, 10:46 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Because the government intervened to address the problem.  That is considered a liberal practice.  

Conservatives would have just said "Let the free market take care of it." or "We need to stop being soft on criminals."

Horse...Water...Water....Horse.

Still thirsty

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(08-28-2015, 01:19 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: Link to the Stink


There's nothing to see here ...

An alternative explanation would be the known amount of cocaine produced plummeted.

[Devils Advocate]

(09-03-2015, 10:51 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: An alternative explanation would be the known amount of cocaine produced plummeted.

Maybe. 

I mean, it is heavily speculated that every single country in the Western Hemisphere is corrupt, except for those run by incorruptible, superior thinking white males, meaning -- we just can't trust what the government of countries south of the U.S. report, ya know?

The bigger crime though is to condemn a plant ( coca ) that offers so many benefits to human health and nutrition. 

Quote:Plants have been used as both food and medicine since the beginning of our human journey on this planet, as far as we know it. For centuries we have been using plant remedies and medicines to prevent and cure all sorts of ailments. During the 1900’s we commercialized the synthesis of medicinal plant ingredients into pharmaceuticals. Today, we are coming back to working with the Plant Kingdom in a more connected and natural way. We are combining the best of what the ancient civilizations knew with what our modern science can tell us.
Such is the case with the coca plant. A native to western South America with over 250 varieties, the properties of this plant have been used for health and healing purposes by many ancient civilizations. Of course in our modern times we have also abused the purpose of this plant, but that is a whole other story. What we do know is that when used appropriately, this plant contains many beneficial nutritive and health properties as will be described below.
Nutrition Benefits of the Coca Leaf

The coca leaf has been found to be a valuable dietary supplement. Several studies analyzed the nutrition characteristics of the coca leaf. Two notable ones include, a 2009 study published in the Food & Nutrition Bulletin (Can coca leaves contribute to improving the nutritional status of the Andean population?, Penny, Zavaleta, et al.) and a 1975 Harvard study (Nutritional Value of Coca Leaf, Duke, Aulick, Plowman). They found that per 100g the leaves contained:
Carbohydrates (44.3 g)
Protein (19.9 g)
Fat (3.3 g)
Fiber (14.2 g)
Vitamin A (10,000 – 14,000 IU)
Vitamin B1 (0.58 – 0.68 mg)
Vitamin B2 (1.73 mg)
Vitamin B6 (0.58 mg)
Vitamin C (1.4 – 53 mg)
Vitamin D (trace amounts)
Vitamin E (16.72 mg)
Calcium (990.18 – 1749 mg)
Copper (1.1 mg)
Iron (26.8 – 45.8 mg)
Magnesium (197 – 225 mg)
Phosphorus (637 mg)
Zinc (2.63 – 3.8 mg)
Health Benefits of the Coca Leaf

The coca leaf’s documented ancient uses and those discovered by modern science span a large area of health conditions. They include using the coca leaf as an anesthetic and analgesic to alleviate the pain of headache, rheumatism, wounds and sores, etc. According to WebMD, people chew coca leaves to relieve hunger and fatigue and to enhance physical performance. Coca extracts are used for stimulating stomach function, causing sedation, and treating asthma, colds, and other ailments. Coca tea is commonly used for altitude sickness in the Peruvian Andes and other parts of the world. There have also been reports of using the leaves as a stimulant for concentration and enhancing cognitive function.
According to a 1981 study published in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology on the therapeutic value of coca in contemporary medicine, coca appears to be a useful treatment for various gastrointestinal ailments, motion sickness, and laryngeal fatigue. It can help in weight reduction programs and physical fitness, and may be a fast-acting antidepressant.
The coca leaves are a rich source of various alkaloids, which can help or hurt our health depending on how they are used. It is therefore important to remember that many plants, including the coca leaf, are very powerful medicines, and should therefore be used with the help of a knowledgeable expert. It is important not to mix alcohol with your use of the coca plant, or use it if you are pregnant or breast feeding.
Conclusion

We can incorporate these wonderful benefits of the coca leaf most often in tea form, however chewing the leaves is also a common practice. When chewed they produce a sense of warmth in the mouth and have a pleasant, pungent taste. In this, its natural, form coca does not produce toxicity or dependence. As mentioned in the introduction, coca leaf is native to certain parts of South America, like Peru, so the best way to take advantage of its unique benefits is to experience is for yourself.

[fredtoast]

(09-03-2015, 01:55 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: I mean, it is heavily speculated that every single country in the Western Hemisphere is corrupt, except for those run by incorruptible, superior thinking white males, meaning -- we just can't trust what the government of countries south of the U.S. report, ya know?

This is why we need to go back to the good old days 50 years ago when we just supported "freedom fighters" all over Latin America who just happened to install US-friendly leaders after the coup.  And elections down there were "free" when our guy won but "rigged" when the other side did.

See:  Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Nicaragua