CPAC stage design - Fascists gonna Fascist

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

They're not even trying to hide it anymore. I still say, if you want Antifa to go away, Republicans should stop being Fascists. Should someone explain to them that Fascism is 0-1 with military bases of the victors still in their countries 76 years later with no signs of leaving?

[NATI BENGALS]

Wow man. Wtf.

[BmorePat87]

Idk, seems unintentional

[*jason*]

(02-27-2021, 10:58 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Idk, seems unintentional

I'd like to think so, but it's not like you have to squint and blur your eyes to see it. That's exactly what it is. I wouldn't have known what it was without being told, but a spade is a spade.

[masonbengals fan]

Anybody trying to read Nazi symbols into the shape of a stage obviously has an agenda. Good grief...

[NATI BENGALS]

(02-27-2021, 11:23 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: Anybody trying to read Nazi symbols into the shape of a stage obviously has an agenda. Good grief...

Anyone underestimating the crowd worshiping the golden idol has already forgot about what happened on January 6th. 

This is one of the biggest cults the world has ever seen.

[BigPapaKain]

(02-27-2021, 11:23 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: Anybody trying to read Nazi symbols into the shape of a stage obviously has an agenda. Good grief..

It's not that people are trying to see it so much as people are literally seeing it. It's there. It's not hidden. It might be unintentional (most likely case because we all know the GQP and it's voters have zero knowledge of world history). Doesn't change the fact that it's there.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-27-2021, 07:37 AM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: They're not even trying to hide it anymore. I still say, if you want Antifa to go away, Republicans should stop being Fascists.

Even assuming your point about the GOP is true, which it is not, this is demonstrably false.  The antifa losers largely protest in cities heavily Democratic and against the governments there.  They hate anyone who doesn't adhere to their particular view on everything.  They're scum and I'm tired of people mitigating just how shitty they are.  Both antifa and the far right can both suck, it's not an either/or situation.

Quote:Should someone explain to them that Fascism is 0-1 with military bases of the victors still in their countries 76 years later with no signs of leaving?

This is hyperbolic, seeing as how there is pretty much zero chance this design was intentional in the way you state.  Seriously, everyone has lost their mind at this point.  I almost literally have to stop listening to everyone to maintain my sanity.

[hollodero]

I really do not think this podium has anything to do with a nordic rune. Not to be offensive, but imho this is kind of a "Biden said the n-word" issue.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-27-2021, 02:59 PM)hollodero Wrote: I really do not think this podium has anything to do with a nordic rune. Not to be offensive, but imho this is kind of a "Biden said the n-word" issue.

Agreed.

[GMDino]

There is probably a zero percent chance they did that on purpose for Nazi reasons.  This version for the republican party doesn't seem big on understanding or studying history.

Plus, like their leader Trump, they don't often care about things other than how the final product looks.

Like their giant gold Trump idol...was made in Mexico.  lol



No doubt though there are going to be people out there who believe because a) they hate republicans or b) they want it to be true because they are Nazi's.

[GMDino]

And, I just read, the other event going on this weekend (AFPAC) apparently has the real racists attending it instead.

Then they go to CPAC and say that, gosh darn it, they just don't LIKE all that White Supremist talk!

Paul Gosar kicked off his CPAC panel with a muddled attempt to distance himself from the white nationalist event last night. “Before I get to that, I want to tell you — I denounce when we talk about white racism. That's not appropriate.”

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) February 27, 2021

 


Here's some more on the Second Annual America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC).


https://angrywhitemen.org/2021/02/27/rep-paul-gosar-gives-speech-at-white-nationalist-america-first-conference/

[hollodero]

(02-27-2021, 03:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: There is probably a zero percent chance they did that on purpose for Nazi reasons.  This version for the republican party doesn't seem big on understanding or studying history.

I wouldn't have known about that rune either though. Maybe I have a severe gap in my knowledge here, but it rather seems like a dog whistle for only a small handful of dogs.
Now if they had used a full blown swastika, that would have been a message. Blunt, apparent, not even hiding it anymore.

What irks me a bit about all that is that this can be used as a somewhat persuasive example of the left losing their mind over nothing.

[GMDino]

(02-27-2021, 04:04 PM)hollodero Wrote: I wouldn't have known about that rune either though. Maybe I have a severe gap in my knowledge here, but it rather seems like a dog whistle for only a small handful of dogs.
Now if they had used a full blown swastika, that would have been a message. Blunt, apparent, not even hiding it anymore.

What irks me a bit about all that is that this can be used as a somewhat persuasive example of the left losing their mind over nothing.

I would suppose very few people knew about it unless they specifically knew about that history.

But I agree that just because someone noticed it and made the original comment it will now get blown completely out of proportion.

[SunsetBengal]

(02-27-2021, 05:08 PM)GMDino Wrote: I would suppose very few people knew about it unless they specifically knew about that history.

But I agree that just because someone noticed it and made the original comment it will now get blown completely out of proportion.

I guess you might say that there's likely a tinfoil hat chapter in just about every political faction.

[GMDino]

(02-27-2021, 05:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I guess you might say that there's likely a tinfoil hat chapter in just about every political faction.

I more meant that if you knew more than the average Joe about such symbols it probably jumped out at you and that most people, even those who love history and that specific time period probably didn't make that association.

Just saying what it looks like isn't crazy.  Assuming they did it on purpose because they don't want to hide fascist tendencies is crazy.

[NATI BENGALS]

Right...

So a lot of you probably think I’m wearing a tinfoil hat for thinking the conman’s words have helped cause a rise in hate crimes against Asians too.

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

National Socialist Movement flag up until 2016


National Socialist Movement flag since 2016

I just might be the first person in history to ever associate the modern republican party with White Nationalism according to some in this thread. This is not someone looking back into Nazi history and sneaking it in . . . this is from a recent re-branding by White Nationalists




Here's a couple of back to back quotes from the thread where I got this info. 2nd one is from a German.

Quote:What's hard to figure out with the stage design is whether it was done as a nazi dog whistle to Trumpies or whether it was designed by a closeted dissenter as sabotaging, knowing somebody would make the connection and slam them for it. It's always a Poe's law type thing with the GOP these days. You can't figure out if they're more evil than stupid or vice versa.

Quote:Why does it matter? Take it from the kraut: being a Nazi and being blind to Nazism quickly becomes the same thing.

[GMDino]

(03-01-2021, 09:42 AM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: National Socialist Movement flag up until 2016


National Socialist Movement flag since 2016

I just might be the first person in history to ever associate the modern republican party with White Nationalism according to some in this thread. This is not someone looking back into Nazi history and sneaking it in . . . this is from a recent re-branding by White Nationalists




Here's a couple of back to back quotes from the thread where I got this info. 2nd one is from a German.

That's very interesting.  Thanks for the info.

[hollodero]

(02-27-2021, 07:11 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Right...

So a lot of you probably think I’m wearing a tinfoil hat for thinking the conman’s words have helped cause a rise in hate crimes against Asians too.

Oh, that rise I can absolutely believe. I don't know the numbers, but that would make a lot of sense.

(03-01-2021, 09:42 AM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: Why does it matter? Take it from the kraut: being a Nazi and being blind to Nazism quickly becomes the same thing.

Well, I am not asking of you to take anything from an Austrian, but I will add this. It's absolutely true that being blind to Nazism can become a form of support of Nazism, and I experienced that in my country for sure. We have Nazis and people who aid them by denying the issue. What I also experienced though is that being overly alert to everything that could be construed as Nazism also helps Nazism. It creates examples of exaggeration people can point to to call every legit warning an exaggeration in the same light. That is why I am advocating caution, for seeing Nazi symbols everywhere can lead to a reaction similar to the classical "the boy who cried wolf" scenario.

There are demonstrably awful things happening at CPAC, things that do not need any interpretation and no lesson in the symbols of a fringe group. I find it wiser to focus on that instead of fueling speculations that reasanably can be seen as unreasonable. For sure I do not know 100% that this was incidential or if anyone indeed had pandering to Nazis through a Nazi symbol in mind here, I just deem it highly unlikely. While you see it as a virtual certainty.