Cocaine in the West Wing

[SunsetBengal]

I know that this is just an opinion piece, but this US Representative is saying exactly what a huge number of Americans are actually thinking.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/darrell-issa-not-just-an-accident-that-cocaine-was-found-in-the-biden-white-house/ar-AA1dzpUb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7cc5309bd70f4290a6d5573e6b32e043&ei=51

Quote:Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) pointed out Thursday that Americans never heard about cocaine in the White House until someone with a record of using the drug started spending time there.

"I'm cynical. How is it that we've never had cocaine in the White House until we have somebody with a record of using cocaine who was in the White House just about the same time?" Issa asked on Fox News, referring to Hunter Biden.

"I'm cynical enough to think that it's not just an accident, that in fact the policies of the White House that let Hunter Biden in let somebody in with cocaine, and they got stoned and forgot to take it with them apparently."

Hunter Biden is at the center of an investigation carried out by the Department of Justice, and whistle-blowers are coming forward, according to Issa.

"When you have career employees who are coming forward with facts, you'll notice [Biden allies and supporters are ] not disputing the facts," he said.

"They may be attacking the witnesses, but they're not disputing the underlying facts, and the underlying facts are Hunter Biden, with the help of his father, the vice president now president, has made a terrific amount of money, much of which he did not report for tax purposes."

A normal citizen who committed those actions would go to jail, and Hunter Biden is "going to get the ultimate slap on the wrist," he added.

[BengalYankee]

(07-07-2023, 01:53 PM)GMDino Wrote: Nothing at all to do with this thread or discussion.  Thanks.

Hunter Biden 

[GMDino]

(07-07-2023, 02:13 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Hunter Biden 

Oh!  So now I can bring up every racist thing a Trump ever said?  Nah.

[hollodero]

(07-07-2023, 01:57 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I know that this is just an opinion piece, but this US Representative is saying exactly what a huge number of Americans are actually thinking.

Yeah said representative also does not state actually proven facts. That Hunter is responsible is speculation, that Joe actively helped him make money is speculation. As for whistleblowers, what are they whistleblowing?

[BengalYankee]

(07-07-2023, 02:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh!  So now I can bring up every racist thing a Trump ever said?  Nah.

 This thread has to do with Cocaine and anyone suspected in the White House now, *Cough Hunter Biden *Cough. 

[SunsetBengal]

(07-07-2023, 02:18 PM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah said representative also does not state actually proven facts. That Hunter is responsible is speculation, that Joe actively helped him make money is speculation. As for whistleblowers, what are they whistleblowing?

As I clearly wrote, it's an opinion piece.

[hollodero]

(07-07-2023, 02:24 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: As I clearly wrote, it's an opinion piece.

Well, there were statements in it that were called factual. Like that Joe actively helped Hunter make money. These were not declared an opinion.

It was not meant to critizise you, I just see a certain methodology, stating opinions as facts over and over until they are considered facts through repetition.

[SunsetBengal]

(07-07-2023, 02:30 PM)hollodero Wrote: Well, there were statements in it that were called factual. Like that Joe actively helped Hunter make money. These were not declared an opinion.

It was not meant to critizise you, I just see a certain methodology, stating opinions as facts over and over until they are considered facts through repetition.

I believe he was refering to information from the career employees who came foward as being facts in regard to the ongoing investigation.

[*pally*]

https://www.mediaite.com/biden/biden-spox-says-the-white-house-situation-room-near-location-of-cocaine-has-not-been-used-for-months-due-to-renovations/


Fox News correspondent Mark Meredith asked (Jake) Sullivan about the proximity of the cocaine to the Situation Room and if there were any security concerns. Sullivan responded with the standard punt to the Secret Service, but did provide the details about the Situation Room:

Quote: would make a point about the Situation Room because I think there’s been a lot of questionable reporting on this. The Situation Room is not in use and has not been in use for months because it currently under construction. We are using an alternate Situation Room in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, so the only people going in and coming out of the Sit Room in this period have been workers who are getting it ready to go. By the way, it’s on time and on schedule to be back on station here in the not too distance future. But no, there was no issue with the Situation Room relative to this.

so now we also know there were construction folks in and out of that area as well as visitors and staff

[Luvnit2]

(07-07-2023, 11:12 PM)pally Wrote: https://www.mediaite.com/biden/biden-spox-says-the-white-house-situation-room-near-location-of-cocaine-has-not-been-used-for-months-due-to-renovations/


Fox News correspondent Mark Meredith asked (Jake) Sullivan about the proximity of the cocaine to the Situation Room and if there were any security concerns. Sullivan responded with the standard punt to the Secret Service, but did provide the details about the Situation Room:



so now we also know there were construction folks in and out of that area as well as visitors and staff

You are gullible Pally if you can't see a deflection by the Biden team. It was not found in the situation room which is under construction. Well at least according to the 3rd attempt to tell us exactly where is was found. Why did WH spokesperson lie about where it was found? What did she also lie about where the Bidens were on Friday> The left around 6;30 p.m. on Friday so they were in the Whitehouse most of day on Friday.

Why is there a recording of the Hazmat team saying they found the white substance in the library? Jean-Pierre dodge a specific question asking if the cocaine belonged to Joe or Hunter Biden? A simple yes or no versus going in a tirade and during her response she never said "no" it did not belong t Hunter or Joe.

Jean-Pierre lied and said the cocaine was found in an area tourists have access. Then she changed it to another location. Why? She had days prior to her 1st. press conference about cocaine being found. The secret service had all of the info by Sunday on location found, yet she lied to try and create a false narrative it could have been a tourist. Now Sullivan is trying to blame construction workers and secret service is mum on who left it and saying they may never find out. As for the construction workers, they do not have freedom to roam the WH and areas around the construction area. If so, it would be too easy to gain access and kill the POTUS or his family.

Hunter Biden has to be suspect number 1 based on it being found in a secure area. Perception is reality, if the secret service does not reveal (they have finger prints and cameras everywhere, it is safe to assume a corrupt secret service team is covering for either Hunter or Joe Biden.

Ask yourself a simple question, why did Jean-Pierre lie about where the cocaine was found? Again, she had days to briefed by the secret service and the hazmat team, yet she flat out lied and tried to create a cover up story day 1.

[*pally*]

It must be so exhausting to see a conspiracy theory in everything. You want Joe Biden guilty of something so badly that you have foregone any common sense you ever possessed

[HarleyDog]

(07-08-2023, 02:39 PM)pally Wrote: It must be so exhausting to see a conspiracy theory in everything.  You want Joe Biden guilty of something so badly that you have foregone any common sense you ever possessed

He’s simply asking why so much lying? It’s a good question. We should expect better from our political officials and their staff to be honest. 

[*pally*]

(07-08-2023, 02:55 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: He’s simply asking why so much lying? It’s a good question. We should expect better from our political officials and their staff to be honest. 

Is it lying or just learning more of the story as the investigation progressed?

He doesn't care about the truth.  He has already tried and convicted Hunter Biden.  He will twist the story until it fits his narrative or simply ignore the facts that contradict it. 

The Secret Service can have a signed full confession from some guy who got a tour because his brother-in-law donated a lot of money to an influential Senator, and he will claim this dude was made the fall guy or was paid off.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(07-08-2023, 03:22 PM)pally Wrote: Is it lying or just learning more of the story as the investigation progressed?

The cocaine was found somewhere, correct?  Why has that location changed in the official story so many times?  If this was a police investigation it would be thrown out by the DA for inconsistent incomptence.

Quote:He doesn't care about the truth.  He has already tried and convicted Hunter Biden.  He will twist the story until it fits his narrative or simply ignore the facts that contradict it. 

One could argue that you don't care about the truth since you consistently accept contradictory stories, or changes in said story, from the WH spox without a hint of skepticism.

Quote:The Secret Service can have a signed full confession from some guy who got a tour because his brother-in-law donated a lot of money to an influential Senator, and he will claim this dude was made the fall guy or was paid off.

An interesting, if hyperbolic, hypothetical.  Let's see if it plays out.

[hollodero]

(07-08-2023, 03:22 PM)pally Wrote: Is it lying or just learning more of the story as the investigation progressed?

Oh, this is somewhat tough for me to get behind when the location is concerned. Learning more of a story usually does not involve learning more about the place where the proverbial body was found that set all in motion. That one seems like the one solid given.

Seeing a - purely hypothetical - Trump supporter taking such issue with lies, well that's another topic.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(07-08-2023, 08:12 PM)hollodero Wrote: Oh, this is somewhat tough for me to get behind when the location is concerned. Learning more of a story usually does not involve learning more about the place where the proverbial body was found that set all in motion. That one seems like the one solid given.

Seeing a - purely hypothetical - Trump supporter taking such issue with lies, well that's another topic.

[*pally*]

(07-08-2023, 07:38 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: One could argue that you don't care about the truth since you consistently accept contradictory stories, or changes in said story, from the WH spox without a hint of skepticism.

I care about the truth which is why I refuse to jump to conclusions just because I so desperately want a particular outcome

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(07-08-2023, 09:10 PM)pally Wrote: I care about the truth which is why I refuse to jump to conclusions just because I so desperately want a particular outcome

Pointing out that the cocaine's found location has officially changed several times isn't jumping to conclusions.  It's pointing out logical, and rudimentary, inconsistency in the official story.  Spin away, it's not changing this basic fact.

[NATI BENGALS]

Makes sense. Definitely a performance enhancer for talking. Wonder if Biden is starting to prep for debates? Trump called him out for using the performance enhancers last time.

[samhain]

This is some real bullshit. If the executive branch wants to use the people's house to do drugs, they'd better get their shit together.

These bastards are blowing money on coke when they could be saving us taxpayers a bundle by switching to meth.

I'm so damned fed up with government waste.