Elephant in the Room
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Elephant in the Room
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11-08-2021, 02:09 AM
(11-07-2021, 11:57 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Tbh, I think when Dalton hit 0-2 in the playoffs is when the debate really went nuclear, and that was year 2. There was definitely some naysayers way before that though. Nah. The heavy criticism came after the loss to the Chargers at home, year 3. I didn't even jump off the train till sometime after 2015. ![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png) "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-08-2021, 02:23 AM
(11-08-2021, 12:06 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: The defense is my primary concern, not Joe Burrow. For seven weeks Lou Anarumo had his men allowing only 17 points per game and for two straight games the Bengals have allowed 34 points. That’s Teryl Austin territory. Thank you for coming down off the crazy tower and making a legitimate, good post. 
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-08-2021, 02:26 AM
(11-08-2021, 12:49 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: the irony is thick (11-08-2021, 12:50 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: this guy is still bitching about Dalton What irony? You sit back and wait to see him type "Dalton" and go into feast mode. "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-08-2021, 02:27 AM
(11-08-2021, 01:02 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: I would have traded Andy Dalton after 2015 for a king’s ransom and multiple draft picks, loaded up both lines, and rolled with AJ McCarron into 2016 and beyond. AJ McCarron came the closest to ANY quarterback in the Marvin Lewis era to winning a playoff game. Well, that didn't last long... "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-08-2021, 02:28 AM
(11-08-2021, 02:24 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: I feel your frustration with this board. Although the interceptions are annoying, I wouldnt ever say Burrow isnt a top 10 qb in the NFL in 2021. And it's only his 2nd year. The last few games he definitely has and it's come at the expense of Tyler Boyd. "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-08-2021, 03:12 AM
(11-08-2021, 02:20 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Are you talking about Kylar Murray? The 1st overall pick in the 2019 draft who is finally playing like a top 10 QB in YEAR 3? ![[Image: RightUnconsciousHermitcrab-max-1mb.gif]](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RightUnconsciousHermitcrab-max-1mb.gif) C’mon…you’re a Hall of Famer. You can say what you want! 
11-08-2021, 03:21 AM
(11-08-2021, 02:28 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: The last few games he definitely has and it's come at the expense of Tyler Boyd. Targets have been much more even than people think.
The flea flicker today was the perfect example of Burrow not locking in on Chase (who was the vertical option), instead he hit Tee on a wheel. They do need to get Boyd the ball more though.
11-08-2021, 03:27 AM
(11-08-2021, 03:12 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: C’mon…you’re a Hall of Famer. You can say what you want! Now that you mention it...NFL HoFers get a cool gold jacket when they go in and we can't even get a 100,000 boost of rep points?? ![[Image: michael-scott-the-office.gif]](https://c.tenor.com/UIo0BySZY-IAAAAC/michael-scott-the-office.gif)
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-08-2021, 03:30 AM
(11-08-2021, 03:27 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Now that you mention it...NFL HoFers get a cool gold jacket when they go in and we can't even get a 100,000 boost of rep points?? Bears - beets - bad Burrow interceptions
11-08-2021, 03:37 AM
(11-08-2021, 03:21 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Targets have been much more even than people think. Yeah, they were pretty well split not too long ago and i'm not upset at how much Tee is getting targeted but the last 4 games, Chase 38 targets. Higgins 35 targets. Boyd 20 targets. Things would have looked a hell of a lot better today if Higgins and Chase hadn't dropped multiple catchable balls. "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-08-2021, 03:50 AM
(11-08-2021, 03:37 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Yeah, they were pretty well split not too long ago and i'm not upset at how much Tee is getting targeted but the last 4 games, Chase 38 targets. Higgins 35 targets. Boyd 20 targets. No doubt. Even Perine got in on the dropsie’s today (on a 3rd down to boot). 
11-08-2021, 07:07 AM
(11-07-2021, 08:37 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Is Burrow a trash QB? Of course not. Please don't include trash and QB within the same sentence when talking about a Bengals franchise QB. He may use that as an excuse to retire or be traded. 
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11-08-2021, 07:13 AM
(11-08-2021, 03:21 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Targets have been much more even than people think. But I have C.J. Uzomah on my fantasy team. 
11-08-2021, 09:10 AM
(11-08-2021, 02:20 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Are you talking about Kylar Murray? The 1st overall pick in the 2019 draft who is finally playing like a top 10 QB in YEAR 3? So we should all just relax and be happy that Burrow is on the same track as Jared Goff, Jamies Winstead, and Baker Mayfield? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
11-08-2021, 09:41 AM
(11-08-2021, 03:21 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Targets have been much more even than people think. i'd agree that burrow isn't becoming a 1 wr qb. chase's catches just stick out a bit more in people's memories because they tend to be more dramatic. as chase draws more double teams, we should start seeing a bit more of spectacular/clutch catches from boyd and higgins again.
11-08-2021, 09:47 AM
(11-08-2021, 09:41 AM)P W Wrote: i'd agree that burrow isn't becoming a 1 wr qb. chase's catches just stick out a bit more in people's memories because they tend to be more dramatic. as chase draws more double teams, we should start seeing a bit more of spectacular/clutch catches from boyd and higgins again. The WR’s only caught 2 of 11 contested balls yesterday. That’s not going to get it done. Tee, especially, should be coming down with more of those.
11-08-2021, 10:04 AM
(11-08-2021, 09:47 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The WR’s only caught 2 of 11 contested balls yesterday. That’s not going to get it done. Tee, especially, should be coming down with more of those. Absolutely, on contested balls and clutch catches. Keep in mind: Browns DBs always bring something extra vs the Bengals. To win the battle of Ohio: the team that runs better almost always wins. Zac failed at doing his OC homework or he got schooled. 
11-08-2021, 10:41 AM
The fact that folks are gleefully talking about the struggles of other 1OA picks to comfort them is........... Something.
Whatever makes you feel better. Misery does love company, so maybe there is comfort in other 1OA busts. Either way we've fallen so far since the promise of week 5. Burrow no longer pro bowler, Chase no longer rookie of the year, ZT no longer up for extension, Lou back on the hot seat, Oline no longer on the up and up, 240 million now looks wasted on D. Just a mess. Quote:"Success doesn’t mean every single move they make is good" ~ Anonymous 
11-08-2021, 10:45 AM
(11-08-2021, 10:41 AM)jj22 Wrote: The fact that folks are gleefully talking about the struggles of other 1OA picks to comfort them is........... Something. No it shows reality. Very few come in and do as well as Joe has.
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