Ex-defense chief Robert Gates: GOP candidates 'simplistic' about Islamic State

[GMDino]

I know, I know...we are all stunned.

I mean if it was as simple as just bombing the shit out them even Obama could have figured it out. Right?

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/01/19/Ex-defense-chief-Robert-Gates-GOP-candidates-simplistic-about-Islamic-State/6471453232720/?src=FB

Quote:WASHINGTON, Jan. 19 (UPI) -- Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said GOP presidential candidates "don't know what they're talking about" when it comes to dealing with the Islamic State.

"Carpet bombing would be completely useless. It's totally contrary to the American way of war," Gates said Tuesday on MSNBC's Morning Joe. "Total disregard for civilians. So, I mean, part of the concern that I have with the campaign, particularly when it comes to national security, is that the solutions being offered are so simplistic and so at odds with the reality of the rest of the world, with the way the world really works."

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz had previously vowed: "We will carpet bomb [the Islamic State] into oblivion. I don't know if sand can glow in the dark, but we're going to find out." The remarks were made at the Rising Tides Summit in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, last month.

Donald Trump has also promised, on more than one occasion, to "bomb the [expletive]" out of the Islamic State.

Gates went on to make thinly veiled references to Trump and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, both political outsiders

"I will tell you this: I do think that politics is a profession," he said. "And I think that if you don't have any experience in how government works, if you have never been in government, your ability to make the government work is going to be significantly reduced."

He continued: "It's different than business. It's different than surgery. It's different than anything else. It's a skill set that you bring based on experience and based on dealing with other people."

Gates, a Republican, served as defense secretary under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. He also served as deputy director of the CIA under President Ronald Reagan, and later served as director. Gates wrote an op-ed for The Washington Post in December called "The kind of president we need."

"Recently, we have elected presidents with a conservative agenda or a liberal agenda," he wrote. "This election, how about we look for one whose agenda is just making things work?"

[BmorePat87]

He's smart enough to know they're just feeding into the rhetoric of the dumb American. None of them are going to carpet bomb a region. They'll just do what Obama does and drone some civilians and call them enemy combatants if they're men that are teens or older.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(01-20-2016, 12:34 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: call them enemy combatants

Nah.  "Unlawful" combatants.  Enemy combatants are entitled to protections under the conventions of warfare, such as due process.  An unlawful combatant can be held without charges indefinitely (depending upon how you interpret the law.)

[fredtoast]

(01-20-2016, 12:34 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: He's smart enough to know they're just feeding into the rhetoric of the dumb American. None of them are going to carpet bomb a region. They'll just do what Obama does and drone some civilians and call them enemy combatants if they're men that are teens or older.

Oh the irony of Bmore talking abou the "rhetoric of the dumb American" and then claiming that Obama just uses drones on random civilians.


We know from the response of our enemies that these drone strikes have been very effective at killing our eneimies.  But just because there have been some collateral kills some "dumb Americans" have fallen for the claim that this is all that is happening.

The drone strikes are not perfect, but they are not just random strikes against civilians.