Fani Willis and lover implode on the witness stand

[BigPapaKain]

(02-19-2024, 03:37 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Democrats are the party messing with democracy. This is the 1st time in history a former POTUS has been charged for a crime. Also, first time in history the opposing front runner for POTUS has been charged with a crime. It reeks of election interference and political persecution. One POTUS keeps documents (permitted to do so just as Obama has never turned over all documents to the National Archives) and is charged.
Yet a senator STEALS CLASSIFIED DOCOUMENTS, KEEPS THEM IN AN INSECURE LOCATION, yet no charges

OTHER CASES IN JURISDICTIONS DEMCRATICALLY CONTROLLED (JURORS) BY AT LEAST 90% VOTING BASE, NYC, D.C. AND FULTON COUNTY,GA.

Why should a man who knows as do the majority of voter waste tens of millions of dollars in legal fees? 

The reality is the Democrats have less than 9 months to put Trump on trial, prosecute him and then win any appeals, otherwise the charges go away if Trump wins the election. Many of you think Trump will lose in November, if he does the Democrats can continue to persecute Trump and all conservatives as they have done the past 7 years.

Ever the victims, never suffering the consequences of their actions.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

[Dill]

(02-19-2024, 03:37 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Democrats are the party messing with democracy. This is the 1st time in history a former POTUS has been charged for a crime. Also, first time in history the opposing front runner for POTUS has been charged with a crime. It reeks of election interference and political persecution. One POTUS keeps documents (permitted to do so just as Obama has never turned over all documents to the National Archives) and is charged.
Yet a senator STEALS CLASSIFIED DOCOUMENTS, KEEPS THEM IN AN INSECURE LOCATION, yet no charges

OTHER CASES IN JURISDICTIONS DEMCRATICALLY CONTROLLED (JURORS) BY AT LEAST 90% VOTING BASE, NYC, D.C. AND FULTON COUNTY,GA.

Why should a man who knows as do the majority of voter waste tens of millions of dollars in legal fees? 

The reality is the Democrats have less than 9 months to put Trump on trial, prosecute him and then win any appeals, otherwise the charges go away if Trump wins the election. Many of you think Trump will lose in November, if he does the Democrats can continue to persecute Trump and all conservatives as they have done the past 7 years.

This has been explained to you so many times before.

One Senator's staff inadvertently packs documents. The Senator, as president, finds and returns them immediately.
COOPERATES WITH SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATION because he upholds rule of law.

An ex-president steals documents himself, after being fired from this job. Then when the National Archives asks for them back HE REFUSES TO COOPERATE. He returns some and lies saying has returned all. Tries to hide some. Ignores requests and warnings until finally an FBI warrant is required to get them.
Convinces the rank and file of his regime party that he was permitted to take and keep the documents and he is being persecuted "for them." 
They take his word over the law.

Same president also tried to overthrow a valid election. First president ever to do that.

So first president ever to get charged with a crime. 

Dems think Trump was breaking precedent by his desperate and public criminal acts.

MAGA faithful see Dems breaking precedent by CHARGING A PRESIDENT, FIRST TIME EVER!

THEY are the ones MESSING WITH DEMOCRACY; not the guy who tried to overturn a valid election.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-19-2024, 07:22 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Pot, kettle.

We'd need an example for that.

Quote:Let the show play out, play it up that he's innocent (if he is), rub it in people's faces.

Y'know, like he's known for.

I guess that'd be playing a long game, and Trump ain't exactly known for seeing past his nose in nearly all things.

If, by what passes for your logic, Trump is innocent, why wouldn't he want the charges dismissed?  See, when you're not delusional what you typed makes zero sense.  It's interesting how your type forces people to be perceived as defending Trump when all they're doing is pointing out logical fallacies.

[Luvnit2]

(02-19-2024, 07:24 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Ever the victims, never suffering the consequences of their actions.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

It is pathetic so many jealous of a billionaire who helped build NYC. 

[BigPapaKain]

(02-19-2024, 07:40 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: We'd need an example for that.

Take your pick. 

Quote:If, by what passes for your logic, Trump is innocent, why wouldn't he want the charges dismissed?  See, when you're not delusional what you typed makes zero sense.  It's interesting how your type forces people to be perceived as defending Trump when all they're doing is pointing out logical fallacies.

It's interesting how a guy who claims to dislike Trump spends so much time defending him.

But what do I know - I'm just  some 'type'.

[BigPapaKain]

(02-19-2024, 07:46 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is pathetic so many jealous of a billionaire who helped build NYC. 

Imagine believing that.

So much for the party of personal liability. I guess that only applies to Democrats and Liberals.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-19-2024, 09:53 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Take your pick. 

Ooohhhh, you little scamp you!

Quote:It's interesting how a guy who claims to dislike Trump spends so much time defending him.

Yeah, as predictable as it is erroneous.  You cult members see any deviation from your talking points as a defense.  Let me make it really clear for you.  Trump sucks, I don't like him.  At the same time many of your attacks against him are inane or based on flawed foundations.  You see pointing that out as a defense.  A rational person sees it as pointing out you're just as unhinged as the most ardent MAGA supporter.

Quote:But what do I know - I'm just  some 'type'.

Based on your posts you sure don't know much.  Take your pick!  

[Luvnit2]

Back to the topic, it appears Wade and Willis lied to a judge last week on the witness stand. A PI has uncovered through cell phone records from 2021 they had thousands of texts, but bigger issue is Wade said he visited her condo 10 times in 2021, turns out it is at least 35 including 2 over night stays.

Only question is will the judge who donated to Willis campaign be a fair judge or show the world democracy is dying.

They should both be charged with perjury and removed from the case, both should lose their Georgia law licenses.

[XenoMorph]

(02-19-2024, 09:54 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Imagine believing that.

So much for the party of personal liability. I guess that only applies to Democrats and Liberals.

oh please they dont claim responsibility for anything they do

[GMDino]

(02-23-2024, 05:43 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Back to the topic, it appears Wade and Willis lied to a judge last week on the witness stand. A PI has uncovered through cell phone records from 2021 they had thousands of texts, but bigger issue is Wade said he visited her condo 10 times in 2021, turns out it is at least 35 including 2 over night stays.

Only question is will the judge who donated to Willis campaign be a fair judge or show the world democracy is dying.

They should both be charged with perjury and removed from the case, both should lose their Georgia law licenses.

Ah, the old "innocent until proven guilty" you are so firmly behind!

Wait...


All seriousness aside there may be a something in front of the court about this.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-team-questions-fani-willis-nathan-wade-romantic-relationship-timing/

Quote:At the end of the two-day hearing last week, Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee questioned defense lawyers on whether they had any other witnesses or evidence they planned to introduce. Only Trump's lawyer, Steven Sadow, did. He informed McAfee that the defense had obtained cell phone records that he wanted to make part of the record. The records, he indicated, related to his questioning of Wade about visits to the condo and said they dealt with the period between February and November 2021.  


"Based on our preliminary research," Sadow said, "we'd like to re-open and be able to introduce the records and someone to explain what they mean." 


Judge McAfee was noncommittal. But should the D.A.'s office respond with evidence that counters the cell phone data introduced by Sadow, there is a good chance that McAfee will extend the evidentiary hearing, rather than proceed immediately to closing arguments.  


Should that happen, the two sides will argue over the reliability of the data and whose interpretation is correct. But the critical question, which could determine Willis' fate in the case, is whether the judge believes the Fulton County D.A. misled the court, legal experts say.  

And, according to the article, this type of things has been tried before:

Quote:In an interview with CBS News, Norman Eisen, a lawyer and former Obama administration ethics czar, questioned the reliability of cellphone data and the defense tactics.  

"This kind of data is unreliable, as shown by a similar failed effort in the 2020 Mules case," Eisen said, referring to a case that involved false claims made by election deniers in 2020 to use drop boxes to commit voter fraud. Moreover, Eisen said that the issue should have been raised earlier "when it could have been tested," by Willis' lawyers. Still, Eisen acknowledged that "as a general matter judges always care about the honesty of those appearing before them," before noting that in this case the defense is "attempting to cross a bridge too far – and one that rests on shaky foundations."    

Here's the  2000 Mules info:  https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-covid-technology-health-arizona-e1b49d2311bf900f44fa5c6dac406762

[BigPapaKain]

(02-23-2024, 05:49 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: oh please they dont claim responsibility for anything they do

Every accusation is an admission.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-23-2024, 08:41 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Every accusation is an admission.

Double edged sword, that.

k?

[BigPapaKain]

(02-23-2024, 09:39 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Double edged sword, that.

k?

Sure. Just come back to me when over half the Democrats are clear Russian assets or pedophiles.

K?

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-24-2024, 12:57 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Sure. Just come back to me when over half the Democrats are clear Russian assets or pedophiles.

K?

Sure.  Give me a logical argument for your position so it can actually be discussed.  


Also, pedophiles?!?!  Your own argument has me concerned now.

[BigPapaKain]

(02-24-2024, 01:15 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Sure.  Give me a logical argument for your position so it can actually be discussed.  


Also, pedophiles?!?!  Your own argument has me concerned now.

As if you actually want to have a discussion and not just post your usual brand of smug nonsense.

As to your desperate attempt at deflection - here is your presidential nominee.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-24-2024, 10:15 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: As if you actually want to have a discussion and not just post your usual brand of smug nonsense.

As to your desperate attempt at deflection - here is your presidential nominee.

Nothing, as expected.  As to your first sentence, "every accusation is an admission."


I honestly wish you were better at this, because it's apparently all you have to offer.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-24-2024, 10:15 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: As to your desperate attempt at deflection - here is your presidential nominee.

Oh, and as to your linked picture.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/epstein-trump-young-girl-photo/

Given that the in-question photograph was created using AI software, we have rated it as "Fake."


Spreading debunked disinformation now?  For shame! 

[GMDino]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/27/georgia-prosecutors-relationship-00143699

Quote:‘I speculated’: Key witness denies knowing details of Georgia prosecutors’ romantic relationship
Terrence Bradley said that, contrary to what he suggested in text messages, he did not know when District Attorney Fani Willis and special prosecutor Nathan Wade began dating.


'I speculated': Terrence Bradley refuses to confirm details in testimony



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02/27/2024 05:20 PM EST

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In a tense hearing in Atlanta Tuesday, a key witness refused to confirm details about the romantic relationship between Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and the special prosecutor she hired to lead her criminal case against Donald Trump.
Terrence Bradley, a lawyer who formerly represented special prosecutor Nathan Wade in his divorce, reluctantly answered questions under oath for two hours but repeatedly said he did not know specifics about Willis’ relationship with Wade, including if they were dating when she hired him as an outside attorney under contract with Fulton County.

Trump and his co-defendants are seeking to have Willis — and her entire office — thrown off the case. They say Willis improperly benefited from the case because after she hired Wade to run the prosecution, Wade allegedly used income from his work on the case to pay for vacations with Willis.


Willis and Wade have acknowledged a romantic relationship but have insisted under oath that it began only after Willis hired Wade in November 2021. They have denied any wrongdoing.


Lawyers for Trump and his co-defendants had signaled that Bradley would testify that Willis and Wade became romantically involved before Willis hired him. If Bradley had testified to that, it would have strengthened the bid to disqualify the prosecutors and would have opened Willis and Wade up to accusations that they lied to the judge.

Bradley, however, said he could not recall when he learned of the romantic relationship between Willis and Wade, and he claimed to have had only a single conversation about the relationship with Wade.

In the hearing, Ashleigh Merchant, a lawyer for one of Trump’s co-defendants, read text messages Bradley sent her saying the prosecutors’ relationship began before Wade joined Willis’ team. But Bradley — who was forced to take the stand due to a subpoena and acknowledged that he didn’t want to be testifying — wouldn’t stand by his text messages. Instead, he insisted that he was merely speculating in those texts. And he said he had no memory of ever knowing when exactly they struck up a romance.


The Trump-allied lawyers — particularly Steve Sadow, who represents the former president — laid into Bradley. But he didn’t budge.
“You want the court to believe that instead of saying nothing, you decided on your own to speculate?” Sadow asked.
“Yes, I speculated,” Bradley replied.

And Richard Rice, who represents another co-defendant, pressed Bradley on whether he lied about Wade when he communicated with Merchant. Rice noted that Bradley had described Wade as a friend.

“As a normal course of relationships with your friends, do you pass on lies about your friends?” Rice asked. “Is that something you normally do, Mr. Bradley? Do you tell lies about your friends?”

“Have I told lies about my friends?” Bradley replied. “I could have, I don’t know.”

Tuesday’s testimony from Bradley was a continuation of a dramatic evidentiary hearing that began earlier this month and featured testimony by both Willis and Wade themselves. Judge Scott McAfee has asked the lawyers to present legal arguments on the disqualification effort this Friday, with a ruling expected after that.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-28-2024, 08:47 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/27/georgia-prosecutors-relationship-00143699

If you watched that testimony and came away with the conclusion that it helped Willis then you're taking the Kool-Aid to the neck.

[NATI BENGALS]

(02-28-2024, 08:50 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: If you watched that testimony and came away with the conclusion that it helped Willis then you're taking the Kool-Aid to the neck.

I didn’t watch. But a star witness admitting he didn’t know and admitting his text message was speculation.

Yea… real hard hitting testimony.


Meanwhile.

A Russian based ransomware group is hacking Fulton country and trying to interfere.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-georgia-documents-ransom-threat-fulton-county-hack-lockbit-2024-2

And they repeat the GOPs favorite talking point and even let us know who to vote for.
"Personally I will vote for Trump because the situation on the border with Mexico is some kind of nightmare, Biden should retire, he is a puppet,"