Gary Johnson Stuns Morning Joe Panel With a Blank Stare: ‘What Is Aleppo?’

[*michaelsean*]

(09-08-2016, 12:12 PM)GMDino Wrote: Are those not admitting mistakes?

Admittedly the war vote was awful...but so many on the right still defend it.

No.  One is someone didn't know something, the other two are actions that have consequences.  

[*bfine32*]

Well, at least they were smart enough not to ask him about illegal immigration. He busted a spring last time:

[Vas Deferens]

(09-09-2016, 04:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Well, at least they were smart enough not to ask him about illegal immigration. He busted a spring last time:

 Sounded like he just made a good point to that interviewer.

[*bfine32*]

(09-09-2016, 04:57 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote:  Sounded like he just made a good point to that interviewer.

Seems like Johnson was the one that conceeded the point after his blood pressure went down.

But folks see what they want to see.

[Vas Deferens]

(09-09-2016, 05:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Seems like Johnson was the one that conceeded the point after his blood pressure went down.

But folks see what they want to see.

Just as you don't want to accept the validity of the points GJ made as well.  To be fair though, I guess not everyone would do what is best for their family.

[*bfine32*]

(09-09-2016, 05:04 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Just as you don't want to accept the validity of the points GJ made as well.  To be fair though, I guess not everyone would do what is best for their family.

What about those trying to do better for their families by coming here legally? You have no issue with folks cutting in line in front of them?

His point made zero sense. The term illegal immigrant is inflammatory to our Hispanic community? Now that's some racist stuff right there. And anybody that uses the term is suddenly Donald Trump going door to door checking papers?

I see why there is a population that supports Johnson; they eat that shit up.

As to my fairness to Johnson: you might want to see my response to the OP. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

Honestly care less about Aleppo than $20t in debt, or corruption in politics, or the ever-expanding Federal government, or rising taxes, or the fact that my generation is paying their paychecks into a system that will likely not exist to pay them back when we get older if it doesn't change, or that my generation is now also paying for other people to have health care.

Those are things that I care about more than Aleppo, and while he may not be a perfect candidate (has there ever been one?) he's neither racist nor evil, and I think he is by far the best chance at fixing some things around here that need fixing.

[Rotobeast]

(09-09-2016, 06:06 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Honestly care less about Aleppo than $20t in debt, or corruption in politics, or the ever-expanding Federal government, or rising taxes, or the fact that my generation is paying their paychecks into a system that will likely not exist to pay them back when we get older if it doesn't change, or that my generation is now also paying for other people to have health care.

Those are things that I care about more than Aleppo, and while he may not be a perfect candidate (has there ever been one?) he's neither racist nor evil, and I think he is by far the best chance at fixing some things around here that need fixing.

Amen, Brother !!!


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[Beaker]

I watched a follow up with him, and he was very straight forward about his mistake. He said when he first heard Aleppo, he thought the interviewer was throwing some sort of acronym at him. From there he said he just blanked because he locked onto the acronym thing and was trying to recall what that stood for. I actually liked his honesty about it, and could easily see where someone could make that mistake and then get hung up on it before the had the lightbulb come on and go "ooooooh....that place in Syria....I totally brain farted on that one".

[fredtoast]

(09-09-2016, 05:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Seems like Johnson was the one that conceeded the point after his blood pressure went down.

The interviewer refused to answer the question "Is it criminal?".  It is all about semantics. If he had such a strong point then why didn't her answer Johnson's question?  

And the fact is that none of it matters because no one really believes that Donald Trump is going to try and do what he claimed about deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants.  

[CageTheBengal]

Gary Johnson's Campaign Manager:

Alright Gary the Aleppo incident was bad. No doubt about it. Luckily Americans have short memories and if you study up on foreign affairs you might be able to erase the incident on your next TV appearance.

Gary Johnson:

Got it!

Chris Matthews:

So Gary name some of your favorite foreign leaders.

Gary Johnson

...What?


As much as people want a third party to emerge it has become apparent that both the Green and Libertarian party are no more prepared then the Democrats or the Republicans.

[Benton]

(09-29-2016, 09:09 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote:
Gary Johnson's Campaign Manager:

Alright Gary the Aleppo incident was bad. No doubt about it. Luckily Americans have short memories and if you study up on foreign affairs you might be able to erase the incident on your next TV appearance.

Gary Johnson:

Got it!

Chris Matthews:

So Gary name some of your favorite foreign leaders.

Gary Johnson

 ...What?


As much as people want a third party to emerge it has become apparent that both the Green and Libertarian party are no more prepared then the Democrats or the Republicans.

I dont care about prepared. Honestly, that's part of the problem. Dems and repubs are both prepared to guide you from the issue and into what they want to talk about.

[CageTheBengal]

(09-29-2016, 10:20 PM)Benton Wrote: I dont care about prepared. Honestly, that's part of the problem. Dems and repubs are both prepared to guide you from the issue and into what they want to talk about.

What a world we live in were being prepared can be spun into a negative thing.

I'd like a candidate that has prepared them self with knowledge of the world. Johnson is a buffoon like Trump he just got drilled about foreign affairs on one of his few TV appearances and he didn't come back more knowledgeable the 2nd go around? That's idiotic and just flat out short-sighted. The Green party is more interested and prepared to run a protest group compared to a serious political party not to mention Stein is a nut.

The alternative parties are as big of a joke as the mainstream parties.

[Rotobeast]

He was asked what leaders he admired or respected.
A lot of world leaders are Socialists or Dictators, perhaps there are no leaders he respects ?
Vicente Fox has been out for a bit, so I can excuse that.
Regardless though, it's still a bit of a gaffe.
Weld is amazing though.


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[CageTheBengal]

I'm sure if Gary would've made it to the debate stage he would've grabbed his study buddy and a pack of redbull so he could cram the night before. Ya know to really nail down all the foreign policy stuff.

[Aquapod770]

(09-29-2016, 10:37 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: He was asked what leaders he admired or respected.
A lot of world leaders are Socialists or Dictators, perhaps there are no leaders he respects ?
Vicente Fox has been out for a bit, so I can excuse that.
Regardless though, it's still a bit of a gaffe.
Weld is amazing though.


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This. This. This. and This. 

[Benton]

(09-29-2016, 10:36 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: What a world we live in were being prepared can be spun into a negative thing.

I'd like a candidate that has prepared them self with knowledge of the world. Johnson is a buffoon like Trump he just got drilled about foreign affairs on one of his few TV appearances and he didn't come back more knowledgeable the 2nd go around? That's idiotic and just flat out short-sighted. The Green party is more interested and prepared to run a protest group compared to a serious political party not to mention Stein is a nut.

The alternative parties are as big of a joke as the mainstream parties.

the world is a great place. I live in it. That said, I'd like a leader that focuses more on domestic problems and posits realistic solutions to some of those problems, instead of trying to get some poll bolstering points.

[CageTheBengal]

(09-29-2016, 11:41 PM)Benton Wrote: the world is a great place. I live in it. That said, I'd like a leader that focuses more on domestic problems and posits realistic solutions to some of those problems, instead of trying to get some poll bolstering points.

We don't live under a dome the rest of the world exists to and has to be accounted for as well.. Having an understanding of the world isn't a stunt for poll bolstering nor is it sexy to our society but it does matter and should be basic knowledge you posses to be president especially considering the role we play in the UN and the world in general. Its not like it has to be us or the world.

[GMDino]

(09-29-2016, 10:37 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: He was asked what leaders he admired or respected.
A lot of world leaders are Socialists or Dictators, perhaps there are no leaders he respects ?
Vicente Fox has been out for a bit, so I can excuse that.
Regardless though, it's still a bit of a gaffe.
Weld is amazing though.


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If that were the case there are better ways to answer the question.

First of which is to NOT bring up the last time you didn't know the answer to a question on television.

[Rotobeast]

(09-30-2016, 06:59 AM)GMDino Wrote: If that were the case there are better ways to answer the question.

First of which is to NOT bring up the last time you didn't know the answer to a question on television.

I would agree with that.

However, he had a jump in poll numbers after the Aleppo exposure.
Perhaps he's pulling a Trump to get more exposure ?

I guess it's been noted that Jeb Bush has recommended that people vote for Johnson.
When questioned, his office said they would not deny the claim.
If he and Romney would just endorse him....
He's not making it terribly easy for them though.
Meh...

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