Gas Prices Near You?

[*Nately120*]

The higher gas prices get, the less avocado toast and starbucks you buy. Simple stuff, people.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-02-2022, 09:23 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Back when Trans Lives Mattered.

I learned a very important lesson with that first car, never buy a used car from a woman.  I'm sure some people will accuse me of misogyny for saying so, but I've never dated a single woman who uses her emergency brake when she parks.  One of them, after I asked when she last changed her oil literally said, "you have to change it?"  She'd literally been topping off her oil for years.  That Trans Am was one poor maintenance issue after another.

/rant

[KillerGoose]

Funny story - my sister-in-law called her father several years back complaining of a loud noise coming from her engine. Now, he isn't a mechanic (firefighter/paramedic/peace officer) but he is mechanically inclined. So, he did a little questioning and ended up asking her when her oil was last changed.

"What do you mean?"

"Your oil. When did you change it last?"

"I haven't."

"Say WHAT?"

She had driven that car for a few years by that point. Sure enough, they pulled the dipper and that thing was bone dry. A little tumbleweed may as well have popped out of the engine. This was close to 10 years ago at this point and they still rib her about that. 

[Vas Deferens]

(06-02-2022, 08:45 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: It's not letting me reply to my thread on gas prices but I wanted to address a comment made by Vas Deferens in which he said that I should try reading my posts aloud in my post that said something like "even millionaires aren't worth as much as normal millionaires because of inflation."

It's really not that hard to understand: a "normal" millionaire, before Bidenflation, could buy a lot more than a millionaire now who's million can buy them a lot less.

Incorrect adjective choice made your statement very hard to understand.

Quote:Millionaires won't be millionaires for long with the cost of gas, groceries, and other everyday items.


Even the people who are millionaires aren't worth as much as the normal millionaire because of inflation.

The onus of converting misemployed language is not on the reader, expecting as much is preposterous.  Thus my suggestion you should start reading some of your posts aloud before submitting.  Maybe you catch a few errors before posting, save everyone time and increase the influence of your statements. 

Or not.  Your call.  But don't come at me with some bullshit about how its obvious you're talking about the size of a balloon when you say "that's a yellow balloon."  

[BFritz21]

(06-03-2022, 03:33 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Incorrect adjective choice made your statement very hard to understand.




The onus of converting misemployed language is not on the reader, expecting as much is preposterous.  Thus my suggestion you should start reading some of your posts aloud before submitting.  Maybe you catch a few errors before posting, save everyone time and increase the influence of your statements. 

Or not.  Your call.  But don't come at me with some bullshit about how its obvious you're talking about the size of a balloon when you say "that's a yellow balloon."  

Again, my post was clear and obvious given the topic at hand. It is not on the person to spell out everything in detail when it's understood, which it was not hard at all to understand.

The language and condescending tone of your post makes it more obvious that you understood what I was saying.

[Vas Deferens]

(06-03-2022, 04:03 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Again, my post was clear and obvious given the topic at hand. It is not on the person to spell out everything in detail when it's understood, which it was not hard at all to understand.

The language and condescending tone of your post makes it more obvious that you understood what I was saying.

It was neither clear or obvious what alternate meaning you were assigning to ‘normal’.

Baby steps. Duplicitous for sure, but I can tell you put more time into constructing this response. Keep it up!

[Stewy]

(06-03-2022, 12:13 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: You don't burn your finite supply of what the world needs before the rest of the world burns their finite supply. That's Power 101.

A completely ignorant stance.  Sorry but it's true.

We have decades of HCs we can produce.  With renewables being pushed more and more, what we do have will get stretched even further.  Power is energy independence.  Russia has Europe by the balls by making them dependent.

By having the Dpt of Interior and POTUS not support the production of our resources they are jeopardizing us not just today, but more importantly in the future.

Producing Oil and Gas is not a one week process.  One cannot turn on a tap.  One has to find the HCs, determine if they can be produced economically and then build the infrastructure, drill the wells, and develop the pipelines to get it from usually very remote places to where it is needed (usually some coastal refinery).  Onshore this takes a minimum 2-5 years and offshore can take 5-20 years just to get the oil up and out and heading to the consumers.

If we want Power and Security we need to rely upon our OWN energy which will far outlast the need for HCs as we progress through the energy transition.

[BigPapaKain]

(06-03-2022, 07:39 PM)Stewy Wrote: A completely ignorant stance.  Sorry but it's true.

We have decades of HCs we can produce.  With renewables being pushed more and more, what we do have will get stretched even further.  Power is energy independence.  Russia has Europe by the balls by making them dependent.

By having the Dpt of Interior and POTUS not support the production of our resources they are jeopardizing us not just today, but more importantly in the future.

Producing Oil and Gas is not a one week process.  One cannot turn on a tap.  One has to find the HCs, determine if they can be produced economically and then build the infrastructure, drill the wells, and develop the pipelines to get it from usually very remote places to where it is needed (usually some coastal refinery).  Onshore this takes a minimum 2-5 years and offshore can take 5-20 years just to get the oil up and out and heading to the consumers.

If we want Power and Security we need to rely upon our OWN energy which will far outlast the need for HCs as we progress through the energy transition.

Cool - keep telling me things I already know.

That said - there's a reason America imports any amount of oil. Yes we have enough domestically to meet our needs for a long time, but there is literally no reason to tap yourself out and get held hostage by outside countries when your wells start running dry.

I'll grant you it's stupid; but reality often is.

[Interceptor]

BP by me went up to $4.85 today

[Stewy]

(06-03-2022, 09:07 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Cool - keep telling me things I already know.

That said - there's a reason America imports any amount of oil. Yes we have enough domestically to meet our needs for a long time, but there is literally no reason to tap yourself out and get held hostage by outside countries when your wells start running dry.

I'll grant you it's stupid; but reality often is.

Ok since I'm telling you things you already know then I suppose you know this too.

Our imports are 0% politically motivated and 100% economically related.  They are associated with trades between oil companies to balance refinery capacities around the world.  Or BTU for BTU swaps of oil for Natural Gas (or vice versa) for other economic reasons.

Hypothetical Example:  XOM just started production in Guyana and it has a large portion of heavy oil.  They have enough heavy oil at their disposal to keep their own refineries at capacity, but they have a lack of sweet light crude for their other refineries.  BP has a UK refinery that needs heavy oil to stay at 95%+ capacity, so they trade oil with Exxon.  Exxon's Guyana oil goes to England, and BP light crude goes to an XOM refinery in the states.  On the books it looks like we're importing oil.  When is reality all it is was a swap to keep refineries going.  And it had 0% to do with politics.

[BFritz21]

(06-03-2022, 07:21 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: It was neither clear or obvious what alternate meaning you were assigning to ‘normal’.  

Baby steps.  Duplicitous for sure, but I can tell you put more time into constructing this response.   Keep it up!

It was obvious when the entire thread was about money and my post was about inflation. 

What other meaning could saying that a millionaire these days is worth less than a "normal" millionaire possibly have?

[BFritz21]

(06-03-2022, 09:27 PM)Interceptor Wrote: BP by me went up to $4.85 today

$4.70 at the three closest gas stations to me right now.

[BigPapaKain]

(06-03-2022, 10:57 PM)Stewy Wrote: Ok since I'm telling you things you already know then I suppose you know this too.

Our imports are 0% politically motivated and 100% economically related.  They are associated with trades between oil companies to balance refinery capacities around the world.  Or BTU for BTU swaps of oil for Natural Gas (or vice versa) for other economic reasons.

Hypothetical Example:  XOM just started production in Guyana and it has a large portion of heavy oil.  They have enough heavy oil at their disposal to keep their own refineries at capacity, but they have a lack of sweet light crude for their other refineries.  BP has a UK refinery that needs heavy oil to stay at 95%+ capacity, so they trade oil with Exxon.  Exxon's Guyana oil goes to England, and BP light crude goes to an XOM refinery in the states.  On the books it looks like we're importing oil.  When is reality all it is was a swap to keep refineries going.  And it had 0% to do with politics.

I think we're saying the same thing?

I never actually said saving our domestic oil was a political maneuver. In the global oil economy, the people sitting on deep reserves tend to have more bargaining power. The only reason Saudi Arabia isn't a glass hellscape is because sand and dirt is easier to dig through than glass. That being said, as those wells dry up, the world is going to move to the next country to suck dry. And on and on and on. Eventually as a country, from and economic standpoint, it makes sense to have the fattest reserves in the ground so you can set the prices and make the fattest profits.

Even with the world pushing towards renewables, we'll be on the teet of fossil fuels for the foreseeable future given the logistics in switching over the power grids of established nations. Until green can be achieved globally, you don't sell off your bargaining chips until you can get maximum returns.

I'm terrible at explaining my thoughts; too many chair shots as a kid I suppose. Sorry if that all seems like the ravings of a lunatic.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(06-03-2022, 09:18 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I don't think they are. They do bike a lot, though. A quick Google check says only 1% of cars on the road are electric in Europe, as of 2020. 

I work from home as well. I don't remember the last time I filled up. Two weeks ago, I think? 

That's about the same for me, i didn't even know prices had gone up!

and i recall a time when $5 on Monday would get you thru til payday..... $5 now gets you around the block a few times...

[Stewy]

(06-04-2022, 12:46 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: I think we're saying the same thing?

I never actually said saving our domestic oil was a political maneuver. In the global oil economy, the people sitting on deep reserves tend to have more bargaining power. The only reason Saudi Arabia isn't a glass hellscape is because sand and dirt is easier to dig through than glass. That being said, as those wells dry up, the world is going to move to the next country to suck dry. And on and on and on. Eventually as a country, from and economic standpoint, it makes sense to have the fattest reserves in the ground so you can set the prices and make the fattest profits.

Even with the world pushing towards renewables, we'll be on the teet of fossil fuels for the foreseeable future given the logistics in switching over the power grids of established nations. Until green can be achieved globally, you don't sell off your bargaining chips until you can get maximum returns.

I'm terrible at explaining my thoughts; too many chair shots as a kid I suppose. Sorry if that all seems like the ravings of a lunatic.

Yeah I think we're both realizing we're on the same page afterall.  lol

[Sled21]

Just filled my Grand Cherokee. When the mean tweeter was in office, I could fill from empty and it cost me $42.00, give or take a few cents. Today's grand total to fill from empty was $102.59.

[Vas Deferens]

(06-03-2022, 11:34 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: What other meaning could saying that a millionaire these days is worth less than a "normal" millionaire possibly have?

??? What other meaning? What other meaning? ITS DEVOID OF GOD DAMNED MEANING BECAUSE WORD CHAMFER AEROSPACE TOILET.

[KillerGoose]

(06-04-2022, 10:10 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Just filled my Grand Cherokee. When the mean tweeter was in office, I could fill from empty and it cost me $42.00, give or take a few cents. Today's grand total to fill from empty was $102.59.

Hell, you could when Obama was in office, too. The lowest price of gas since 2008 was when Obama was in office. To go even further, out of the lowest 10 prices of gas since 2008, eight of them were during Obama's tenure. 

[BigPapaKain]

(06-04-2022, 10:10 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Just filled my Grand Cherokee. When the mean tweeter was in office, I could fill from empty and it cost me $42.00, give or take a few cents. Today's grand total to fill from empty was $102.59.

Yeah maybe we should've re-elected him. Then Ukraine would've just gotten rolled and the oil industry would still be in Flux since all of Europe still would've sanctioned Putin despite America not doing as such.

I'm sure those French folks are just as mad at Biden for gas prices.

[*Nately120*]

(06-04-2022, 10:10 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Just filled my Grand Cherokee. When the mean tweeter was in office, I could fill from empty and it cost me $42.00, give or take a few cents. Today's grand total to fill from empty was $102.59.

Let me tell you the story of the Ant and the Grasshopper.  The Ant was a hard worker and when Trump was in office the ant took advantage of Trump's rocket fueled economy and made several million dollars because when Trump was in office if you bothered to try you'd be a success and rich.

The Grasshopper was all like "Oh, Trump could never lose in 2020 and polls are always wrong and if Trump does lose then Mike Pence will just make Trump the president again because that's how I've been told it works" and he didn't work or save in order to gather that rocket fuel economy money.  

Then Joe Biden got elected, and like any time a democrat gets elected the world became a socialist hell hole.  The Ant had a bunch of Trump money saved up and didn't give a crap when it cost more money to fill up his ant car with sugar water (because that's what ant cars run on).  The Grasshopper instead refused to blame his laziness and sloth for his failure and went to a Qanon rally where he was stepped on by an incel wearing a DONT TREAD ON ME shirt.


The moral of the story is that only lazy poor idiots who waste their money complain about the price of things regardless of who is in office.  If you have time to post on this message board you have time to pick up some extra shifts.  Don't be an incel Qanon grasshopper.