Gennifer Flowers.

[Rotobeast]

(10-13-2016, 09:20 PM)hollodero Wrote: Didn't expect you to.
And no, I could not work for them for they do a lousy job and have the most awful web page I've seen in a while. And I can bear witness to that just thanks to you and your mentioning that. Thanks for that one, I will never get this minute back.
Also, there really is no love lost here. I do not like Hillary Clinton. It's preferring the disgusting choice over the poisonous (and far more disgusting) one. The rest is just applying simple logic (or what I consider being that).
Oh btw. I think staying home is not that awful.


That special part puzzles me.
After all, there is an undeniable chance that she actually is not guilty of something horrid. Yet you actually hope for it - and hope for the chains. That is a bit too far for me to grasp.


Big like in Chris Christie big?
Right now I don't know which of these embarrassed figures can help out here. And if they indeed do, they finally will end up swallowing Johnson.



And good evening to you too.

Ok.... one more post.....as (per doctor's orders) have stopped my heart meds and feel a little iffy.

The "hoping" of Hillary's demise is not of evil nature.
I just want the lid completely blown off of the system.
The more that comes out that happened within the DNC, the more that can be addressed.
So, if her campaign could just end and she ride off into the sunset, so be it.
I want major reform and an end to corruption.
I've wanted it for decades.

Johnson has supposedly had Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush waiting in the wings for a while.
The night of the last debate, Johnson claimed that nearly two dozen Republicans called asking how they could help his campaign.
I have seen no follow-through, thus far.
It is possible that they are waiting for the last two weeks before the election, as Bill Weld (Libertarian VP candidate, who happens to be even more appealing to me than Johnson) has been talking about momentum a whole lot this week.

So yeah... take that for what it is.

Good Night....

[hollodero]

(10-13-2016, 10:25 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Ok.... one more post.....as (per doctor's orders) have stopped my heart meds and feel a little iffy.

The "hoping" of Hillary's demise is not of evil nature.
I just want the lid completely blown off of the system.

The more that comes out that happened within the DNC, the more that can be addressed.
So, if her campaign could just end and she ride off into the sunset, so be it.
I want major reform and an end to corruption.
I've wanted it for decades.

No, sure, I can understand that. I feel right now just isn't the time, but I do understand.

(Libertarians of all people might not be the most effective corruption fighters, though.)

(10-13-2016, 10:25 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Johnson has supposedly had Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush waiting in the wings for a while.
The night of the last debate, Johnson claimed that nearly two dozen Republicans called asking how they could help his campaign.
I have seen no follow-through, thus far.
It is possible that they are waiting for the last two weeks before the election, as Bill Weld (Libertarian VP candidate, who happens to be even more appealing to me than Johnson) has been talking about momentum a whole lot this week.

So yeah... take that for what it is.

Good Night....

Well, I'd say its getting awfully late for any kind of endorsement.

Plus: Yay. Jeb Bush.

[Dill]

(10-13-2016, 06:19 PM)hollodero Wrote: So, just for Dill - all others turn away your eyes - politicans from Austria who kept their electorate despite stuff.

- ISIS is sponsored by the US and possibly led by the CIA, and the US threatened Iran should they move against ISIS, including John Kerry saying to Iran "It's us who decides who gets bombed"
- the EU is going to forbid Wiener Schnitzel (more or less our national dish)
- the US threatens the EU with sanctions if we don't turn against Putin more sharply

...which all seems nothing compared to a leader of yet a second right-wing party (couldn't do with one here) in 2006 who was tricked into believing the socialist party planned to replace the summit crosses on top of our mountains with crescents. An accusation he didn't shy away from making live on TV in a national debate. Got 4,11% and seats in the parliament.
So you see.

LOL yes I do see. And I am going to save that brilliant tour through the netherworld of Right-wing Austrian politics for future reference.  I especially like the CIA-ISIS connection.

Crescents! That's like the Oklahoma legislature, in the heart of the Bible Belt, legislating to forestall a takeover by Sharia Law

I do note, though, that Stronach got only 10 per cent of the vote. What would he get in the US, were he to run for office proposing a Mulslim ban and a Wall on the southern border?

[Dill]

(10-13-2016, 06:39 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: What current world leader would a Libertarian admire ?

That is a good question, Roto, since libertarians admire/want small governments and so few world leaders represent that.

Maybe Switzerland's Schneider-Amman. He is a free-market liberal in a country with a big private sector but a (relatively) strong social safety net and sensible environmental laws. Not an earth-shaker, but someone a libertarian could admire, at least, in "Socialist" Europe.

But I assume a reasonable libertarian could admire any world leader who was contributing to world peace and economic security--even if that leader advanced an occasional "big government" policy.

Juan Manuel Santos of Columbia just won the Nobel Peace Prize--even though his peace with FARC was blown up by a referendum (shades of Brexit!). Worth a mention at least.

Way off the international radar, Qatar's Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani seems to be downsizing the Qatari government and, though not himself elected, is a big fan of meritocracy, especially regarding cabinet ministers.  He seems to be rolling back the state where possible, continuing (relatively) liberal social policies initiated by his father.

Along with other GCC members, he has to uphold some very illiberal laws like criminalization of insults to any member of a GCC royal family and whipping Muslims who get publicly drunk. Such laws grate against the liberal mindset, but he doesn't have much choice. 

More positive international recognition and investment might help secure his position and liberalization policies.

[Rotobeast]

(10-15-2016, 08:54 PM)Dill Wrote: That is a good question, Roto, since libertarians admire/want small governments and so few world leaders represent that.

Maybe Switzerland's Schneider-Amman. He is a free-market liberal in a country with a big private sector but a (relatively) strong social safety net and sensible environmental laws. Not an earth-shaker, but someone a libertarian could admire, at least, in "Socialist" Europe.

But I assume a reasonable libertarian could admire any world leader who was contributing to world peace and economic security--even if that leader advanced an occasional "big government" policy.

Juan Manuel Santos of Columbia just won the Nobel Peace Prize--even though his peace with FARC was blown up by a referendum (shades of Brexit!). Worth a mention at least.

Way off the international radar, Qatar's Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani seems to be downsizing the Qatari government and, though not himself elected, is a big fan of meritocracy, especially regarding cabinet ministers.  He seems to be rolling back the state where possible, continuing (relatively) liberal social policies initiated by his father.

Along with other GCC members, he has to uphold some very illiberal laws like criminalization of insults to any member of a GCC royal family and whipping Muslims who get publicly drunk. Such laws grate against the liberal mindset, but he doesn't have much choice. 

More positive international recognition and investment might help secure his position and liberalization policies.

Those are people I did not know much about.
They seem like fair suggestions, with reasonable explanations.
I just may forward your list to Gary.

I'm going to the Libertarian headquarters in Columbus, this week.
I'll try to at least get the main cat there to maybe visit here.

[hollodero]

(10-15-2016, 08:12 PM)Dill Wrote: I do note, though, that Stronach got only 10 per cent of the vote. What would he get in the US, were he to run for office proposing a Mulslim ban and a Wall on the southern border?

Hard to tell. He's no Donald Trump, so I'd guess not quite as much. He has money, which is very much admired in the US, much more than it is here, so that's a plus. But then again, he lacks grabby Donald's demagogic skills (due to the fact that he lacks all political or communicative skills).