George Carlin on Republican attitudes towards women decades ago.

[GMDino]

Shouldn't have to tell you its NSFW.

Abortion, women, religion and the "sanctity of life".

"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."  

[StLucieBengal]

So is the next thread democrat attitudes on blacks decades ago?

That should be a great one.

[fredtoast]

(11-25-2015, 04:30 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So is the next thread democrat attitudes on blacks decades ago?

That should be a great one.

Democrats have had a "reformation".

Republicans have not.

[StLucieBengal]

(11-25-2015, 05:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Democrats have had a "reformation".

Republicans have not.

Have they? They still support and push for the mass slaughter of blacks and Latinos.

Can't let their numbers grow after all.

[*Nately120*]

(11-25-2015, 05:39 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Have they?  They still support and push for the mass slaughter of blacks and Latinos.    

Can't let their numbers grow after all.

Democrats abort 'em Republicans protect 'em and then fear 'em.  It's a wacky world.

EDIT: Wait...this is brilliant! Republicans aim to facilitate the population growth of poor minorities so they can then use the fact that this country is stuffed with poor minorities to sell guns and their own brand of "tough on crime" political fappery to the general public. Nothing gives the right-wing more job security than ensuring this country is absolutely stuffed to the gills with scary brown people. It's genius.

[xxlt]

(11-25-2015, 08:45 AM)GMDino Wrote: Shouldn't have to tell you its NSFW.

Abortion, women, religion and the "sanctity of life".

"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."  

Decades ago? When was this taped?

[6andcounting]

(11-25-2015, 10:26 PM)xxlt Wrote: Decades ago? When was this taped?

Not sure, but decades ago sounds about right.

[*bfine32*]

(11-25-2015, 05:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Democrats have had a "reformation".

Republicans have not.

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.


Fact: During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

Fact: Lincoln's Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen by Lincoln as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for close to a century.


Fact: The 14th Amendment, giving full citizenship to freed slaves, passed in 1868 with 94% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress. The 15th Amendment, giving freed slaves the right to vote, passed in 1870 with 100% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress.

Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.


Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.


Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.







I am glad that the Republican  Party has not had a reformation; how about you?

[jfkbengals]

(11-25-2015, 10:26 PM)xxlt Wrote: Decades ago? When was this taped?

I think this was during or just before Operation Desert Shield/Storm...

[GMDino]

(11-25-2015, 10:35 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.


Fact: During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

Fact: Lincoln's Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen by Lincoln as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for close to a century.


Fact: The 14th Amendment, giving full citizenship to freed slaves, passed in 1868 with 94% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress. The 15th Amendment, giving freed slaves the right to vote, passed in 1870 with 100% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress.

Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.


Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.


Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.







I am glad that the Republican  Party has not had a reformation; how about you?

Struck a nerve did it?

[*bfine32*]

(11-25-2015, 10:49 PM)GMDino Wrote: Struck a nerve did it?

No nerve struck. Fred just mentioned the Republican Party hasn't changed (reformed); just showing why that is a good thing.

Do you agree it's a good thing?

[GMDino]

(11-25-2015, 10:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No nerve struck. Fred just mentioned the Republican Party hasn't changed (reformed); just showing why that is a good thing.

Do you agree it's a good thing?

That most of the democrats you mentioned became Republicans?  Sure.  Wonderful

Oh, and here's the link to you "facts"

http://russp.us/racism.htm


Here's another with more info (that you probably won't read / like)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/history-democrats-republicans-on-civil-rights-equality/

Quote:Republicans – Moderate and Liberal Republicans supported civil rights. The Republicans who supported civil rights in America were not conservatives of the same ilk as George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. They were liberals and moderates, people like former Rhode Island senator Lincoln Chaffee and former senator governor Nelson Rockefeller.


Conservative Democrats opposed civil rights. The Democrats opposed to the civil rights movement weren’t Democrats with the center-left ideology of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. They were, in fact, conservatives – especially from the south – with far more in common with Limbaugh, Beck, etc. than any modern mainstream Democrat. When people say that someone like notorious segregationist Bull Connor was a Democrat, they are technically right on the party label, but when it comes to ideology Connor and the rest of those opposed to racial integration were conservatives.


Conservatives opposed civil rights. At the time of the civil rights movement, outside of the parties, conservatives were opposed to the civil rights movement. Barry Goldwater, a conservative whose brand of politics would soon take over the Republicans in the guise of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, opposed civil rights law. He claimed that he viewed it as a states rights issue, and actually favored equal rights, but the practical effect of his stance would be to allow segregation – in the south “states rights” meant “Jim Crow.” The conservative intellectual movement – William F. Buckley’s National Review, for instance, opposed what they viewed as law-breaking protests by Dr. Martin Luther King.


Democrats moved left on civil rights, in favor. Over time the Democrats moved to the left on civil rights, meaning they moved with other liberals in favor of them. Southern, conservative


Democrats opposed civil rights and the laws were passed by liberal/moderate Republicans and liberal/moderate Democrats. The Civil Rights Act was signed into law by Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat.


Conservative Democrats left the party in opposition to civil rights and became Republicans. After the Civil Rights law was signed into law, conservative Democrats left the party. Strom Thurmond, who ran as a segregationist in 1948, became a Republican, as did Jesse Helms (who went on to filibuster against making Martin Luther King Jr. day a federal holiday).

You're funny.

[*bfine32*]

(11-25-2015, 11:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: That most of the democrats you mentioned became Republicans?  Sure.  Wonderful

Oh, and here's the link to you "facts"

http://russp.us/racism.htm


Here's another with more info (that you probably won't read / like)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/history-democrats-republicans-on-civil-rights-equality/



You're funny.

I did notice you fact page just listed a bunch of conjecture and conspriacy theory; whilst mine listed facts supported by numbers.

You never did answer the question: Is it a good thing that the Republican has not reformed? 

Be careful not to call Fred a liar. 

[Rotobeast]

(11-25-2015, 10:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No nerve struck. Fred just mentioned the Republican Party hasn't changed (reformed); just showing why that is a good thing.

Do you agree it's a good thing?

[GMDino]

(11-25-2015, 11:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I did notice you fact page just listed a bunch of conjecture and conspriacy theory; whilst mine listed facts supported by numbers.

You never did answer the question: Is it a good thing that the Republican has not reformed? 

Be careful not to call Fred a liar. 

You might want to rethink that first line you typed. Or think at all. Its good for you.

Reformed?

They went from the party of Lincoln to the party of Trump.

I'd say they devolved more than reformed.

[Benton]

(11-25-2015, 10:35 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.


Fact: During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

Fact: Lincoln's Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen by Lincoln as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for close to a century.


Fact: The 14th Amendment, giving full citizenship to freed slaves, passed in 1868 with 94% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress. The 15th Amendment, giving freed slaves the right to vote, passed in 1870 with 100% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress.

Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.


Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.


Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.







I am glad that the Republican  Party has not had a reformation; how about you?

Nixon. Southern strategy.

get with this century.

[*bfine32*]

(11-25-2015, 11:36 PM)GMDino Wrote: You might want to rethink that first line you typed.  Or think at all.  Its good for you.

Let's go no further than the first bullet of your "factual" link:




"Republicans – Moderate and Liberal Republicans supported civil rights. The Republicans who supported civil rights in America were not conservatives of the same ilk as George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. They were liberals and moderates, people like former Rhode Island senator Lincoln Chaffee and former senator governor Nelson Rockefeller."


There is absolutely nothing but opinion here. It simply tries to imply that the modern day Republican would not support the CRA. Absolutely no proof; yet there will be those that buy into it, because someone on the internet said it. 




BTW, I took your advice and started thinking: because after all "It's good for you." 

[GMDino]

(11-26-2015, 11:20 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Let's go no further than the first bullet of your "factual" link:




"Republicans – Moderate and Liberal Republicans supported civil rights. The Republicans who supported civil rights in America were not conservatives of the same ilk as George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. They were liberals and moderates, people like former Rhode Island senator Lincoln Chaffee and former senator governor Nelson Rockefeller."


There is absolutely nothing but opinion here. It simply tries to imply that the modern day Republican would not support the CRA. Absolutely no proof; yet there will be those that buy into it, because someone on the internet said it. 




BTW, I took your advice and started thinking: because after all "It's good for you." 

But enough about me.

You can't disprove anything there because its all true.  But thanks for the English lesson?

Solid post though.

[*bfine32*]

(11-26-2015, 11:41 AM)GMDino Wrote: But enough about me.

You can't disprove anything there because its all true.  But thanks for the English lesson?

Solid post though.

George Bush was the first President ever to appoint a minority race as Secretary of State (or any top-tier Executive cabinet position for that matter) and he did it twice. He also arguably provided more aid to sub-Saharan Africa than any President in history.  Not as much proof as that guy implying he is a racist or Kanye West stating he "doesn't care about Black People"; but it is something. 

[Benton]

(11-26-2015, 12:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: George Bush was the first President ever to appoint a minority race as Secretary of State (or any top-tier Executive cabinet position for that matter) and he did it twice. He also arguably provided more aid to sub-Saharan Africa than any President in history.  Not as much proof as that guy implying he is a racist or Kanye West stating he "doesn't care about Black People"; but it is something. 

http://usafricaonline.com/tag/george-w-bush/

there's more, like how kbr/haliburton is having some of its largest growth in sub-Sahara Africa. But it's thanksgiving, I've got pot pies to make and I'm on a phone that's hard to link articles. And I don't think its going to persuade you.