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Germany braces for anti immigrant attacks
#41
(10-29-2015, 11:24 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Anti EU groups control 122 of 230 seats in the Portugal government .  (Communists, Greens, and Left Bloc)

Wrong.  Extremist groups like the Communists and the Left Bloc have joined with the Socialists to oppose the austerity measures imposed by the EU.  That is different from opposing EU membership.  The Socialists have always been in favor of joining the EU and remaining a member.  In fact the Communists and the Left Bloc specifically agreed to drop their demands for exit from the EU in order to form a coalition with the Socialists.

Like I said, you need to look at some better sources than just fear-mongers like Glen Beck.  Immigration and Muslim refugees will be a big issue in Europe, but not anything that will split up the EU.
#42
(10-29-2015, 02:06 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Wrong.  Extremist groups like the Communists and the Left Bloc have joined with the Socialists to oppose the austerity measures imposed by the EU.  That is different from opposing EU membership.  The Socialists have always been in favor of joining the EU and remaining a member.  In fact the Communists and the Left Bloc specifically agreed to drop their demands for exit from the EU in order to form a coalition with the Socialists.

Like I said, you need to look at some better sources than just fear-mongers like Glen Beck.  Immigration and Muslim refugees will be a big issue in Europe, but not anything that will split up the EU.

They dropped their demands to leave the UN. If they were pro EU then there wouldn't be a reason to keep them out.
#43
(10-29-2015, 02:59 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: They dropped their demands to leave the UN.    If they were pro EU then there wouldn't be a reason to keep them out.

No.  They dropped their demands to leave the EU.

It is possible to be against the EU austerity program but still be in favor of remaining a member of the EU.  That is the position of the Socialists.
#44
(10-30-2015, 03:19 AM)fredtoast Wrote: No.  They dropped their demands to leave the EU.

It is possible to be against the EU austerity program but still be in favor of remaining a member of the EU.  That is the position of the Socialists.

just because they favor free trade in Europe doesn't mean they support the EU. According to the Lisbon treaty the EU must set up a free trade agreement with any country who leaves the EU. There is zero benefit to stay. They would all be better with their own currency, they would all be better with control of their own borders.





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