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Give the Reds credit for trying
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Too many people here act like the Reds never make any moves to bring in talent and always give their players away. while the Reds have obviously not been very successful at least they have went out and got some above average to very good starters.

Matt Harvey
Yasiel Puig
Matt Kemp
Sonny Gray
Tanner Roark
Trevor Bauer
Mike Moustakas
Nick Castellanos

So I am looking forward to what they will do this offseason.
"We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us.”

--Charles Bukowski

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They have some good players this year. They just can't seem to get the W's when needed. Winning games is what it is all about and not personal stats.
Lets hope the Bengals and Burrow bring a Super Bowl!WhoDey2 
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(10-13-2021, 02:21 AM)guyofthetiger Wrote: They have some good players this year. They just can't seem to get the W's when needed. Winning games is what it is all about and not personal stats.


Not sure what you mean by "personal stats" not meaning anything.

Maybe if you look at the "personal stats" of our relief pitchers this year you will get an idea why we didn't get the W's we needed.
"We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us.”

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(10-12-2021, 10:16 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Too many people here act like the Reds never make any moves to bring in talent and always give their players away.  while the Reds have obviously not been very successful at least they have went out and got some above average to very good starters.

Matt Harvey
Yasiel Puig
Matt Kemp

Sonny Gray
Tanner Roark
Trevor Bauer
Mike Moustakas
Nick Castellanos

So I am looking forward to what they will do this offseason.

Eh...

Harvey had been bad for multiple years. 
Puig had been aggressively mediocre for a couple years and was living off the hype of his first 2 years.
Kemp hadn't had a 2.0 WAR season since 2012.
Moustakas is just meh and has played 150 games in a season just 1 time and now they're stuck with him.

Also worth noting that of your list of 8 players, only 2 of them spent at least 2 full seasons with the Reds. That's Gray, who has gotten worse every year, and Castellanos who sucked year 1, then was great in his opt out year, and is now leaving to get paid.

They traded for old Matt Kemp, Yasiel Puig, and Kyle Farmer and got 1 wild card game in an expanded playoff..... Then the Dodgers took those prospects they got and turned them into the key pieces to get Mookie Betts, David Price, a World Series win, Max Scherzer, and Trea Turner, and probably another World Series win.
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