Grope a dope: Trump is on the ropes now

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-09-2016, 08:52 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Sexual assault is non-consensual sexual contact. Trump boasted about sexual assault. So either he carried out sexual assault and is boasting about it, or he is lying and saying he did commit sexual assault because he, for some reason, thinks that is a positive thing. Neither option is a good one.

But we have no idea if he did actually sexually assault anyone. Acting like we do is wishful thinking.

Now.... f he was boasting about it in a lying manner..... this goes back to my point about men trying to act "macho" around each other or trying to exaggerate things to be on par with the person they are talking to in someway. Clearly Trump and Bush have some sort of comfortableness between the two to be having the conversation they were having in the first place.

[BmorePat87]

Was it a legitimate sexual assault? An honest sexual assault?

[Belsnickel]

(10-09-2016, 09:04 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: But we have no idea if he did actually sexually assault anyone. Acting like we do is wishful thinking.

Now.... f he was boasting about it in a lying manner..... this goes back to my point about men trying to act "macho" around each other or trying to exaggerate things to be on par with the person they are talking to in someway. Clearly Trump and Bush have some sort of comfortableness between the two to be having the conversation they were having in the first place.

Well, of we take accusations as gospel (which tends to happen with the Clintons) then there are a lot of accusations pointing to Trump sexually assaulting people.

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-09-2016, 09:08 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, of we take accusations as gospel (which tends to happen with the Clintons) then there are a lot of accusations pointing to Trump sexually assaulting people.

Right.

Which means when someone already doesn't like Trump they'll just say he definitely sexually assaulted someone.

[BmorePat87]

(10-09-2016, 09:12 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Right.

Which means when someone already doesn't like Trump they'll just say he definitely sexually assaulted someone.

Him bragging that he has doesn't help

[CageTheBengal]

Apparently Trump is such a great, honest and likeable person that the only logical conclusion for someone disliking him is that they didn't hear him out and have pre-conceived ideas about him.

It couldn't have anything to do with the garbage that has spewed out of his food hole for the past year. That's crazy.

Whatever helps Trump supporters sleep at night.

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-09-2016, 09:29 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Him bragging that he has doesn't help

Yeah, and being in the political world with a target on your head doesn't help him much either.

[GMDino]

(10-09-2016, 09:05 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Was it a legitimate sexual assault? An honest sexual assault?

Do we have a rape culture?

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-09-2016, 09:48 PM)GMDino Wrote: Do we have a rape culture?

We do. Sad thing is that it is a terrible double standard that is only recognized when it comes to things men do.

[GMDino]

(10-09-2016, 09:52 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: We do. Sad thing is that it is a terrible double standard that is only recognized when it comes to things men do.

If only men had some power in this country. 

[Vas Deferens]

***** morons. Thanks Reagan.

[Rotobeast]

(10-10-2016, 12:15 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: ***** morons. Thanks Reagan.

But....wasn't the only monkey Reagan grabbed Bonzo ?


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[Vas Deferens]

(10-10-2016, 12:52 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: But....wasn't the only monkey Reagan grabbed Bonzo ?


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Where'd he grab it?

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-09-2016, 08:41 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Depends on what you mean by "sexual assault".

See this is the problem with this whole "sexual assault" thing. It's too open to interpretation and people can turn anything that can be considered "sexual assault" into what they want it to mean. As I have already mentioned before, people who are criticizing Trump don't know what Trump has actually done. All they know is that he said some negative things about women. They don't know what consensual and non-consensual things have happened between him and anyone else. Trump said some "rapey" comment and now everyone's shouting sexual assault.

Let's try an experiment. Tomorrow, grab a female police officer by the *****. Afterwards, tell me how she interpreted your action. Then repeat the experiment to see if the results are reproducible. 

[Dill]

(10-09-2016, 04:02 PM)Millhouse Wrote: She already said she wants to bring over 100,000 refugees in yearly, which is way more than what Obama has done. Not just Syrian, but from all over the world. And the socialistic policies I am referring to is her proposed free college Bernie plan and plugging away with Obamacare that is failing more and more for anyone that isnt rich or poor. 

 
Last I heard she was speaking of 65,000 refugees to be brought in over several years. Where did you hear of 100.000 a year?

You are ok with the socialistic policies we already have, and don't want to see the expanded? Socialize K-12 but not the first two
years of college?  From her website it looks more like she is trying to help students pay back their crushing college loans.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-09-2016, 08:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Kudos to you for looking for middle-ground, but there is none to be had.

Those that did not like Trump prior to these comments will do all they can to make them seem more than they actually are; while those that liked Trump will look to mitigate them.

I tentatively place myself in the "like Trump" category; therefore, I may be making more light of the comments than they warrant. I will say and do say, if there is any proof he sexually assaulted anyone, my stance would not be one of mitigation. 

You mean evidence other than his own words?  Great words.  The best. 

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-10-2016, 01:40 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Let's try an experiment. Tomorrow, grab a female police officer by the *****. Afterwards, tell me how she interpreted your action. Then repeat the experiment to see if the results are reproducible. 

Again. No one knows what Donald Trump has and hasn't done. Do you have any proof Trump has done something like you have suggested above? Just walk up to some random woman and grab her private area?

What I find interesting is that people are saying that Donald Trumps "grab them by the *****" comment is sexual assault. Well it technically isn't. What Donald Trump said was that women will let you do anything to them when you're famous, not that men can do whatever they want to women. What he was suggesting was that women will allow you to make sexual moves on them just because you're famous. But what people did was take his comments as "because I'm famous I can do whatever I want to women because they can't stop me". That is not what he said.

Donald Trump's comments were less about sexual assault and more about women letting famous men do things to them because obviously those famous men have money. If women are letting famous men do things to them just because they're famous, that is not sexual assault. It's just Trump's degrading view of women seeing a famous rich guy and going "yeah you can touch me".

[BmorePat87]

(10-10-2016, 09:53 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Again. No one knows what Donald Trump has and hasn't done. Do you have any proof Trump has done something like you have suggested above? Just walk up to some random woman and grab her private area?

Just his own words. Either he has or he is a liar. 

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-10-2016, 09:55 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Just his own words. Either he has or he is a liar. 

And if he's a liar that means...... what exactly?

[BmorePat87]

(10-10-2016, 09:58 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: And if he's a liar that means...... what exactly?

That... he's a... liar?