Grope a dope: Trump is on the ropes now

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-10-2016, 10:02 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: That... he's a... liar?

So Trump's a liar and a pig. Again, how this is surprising to anyone is beyond me.

[GMDino]

(10-10-2016, 10:07 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: So Trump's a liar and a pig. Again, how this is surprising to anyone is beyond me.

Just as surprising as how anyone can vote for him to me.

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-10-2016, 10:17 AM)GMDino Wrote: Just as surprising as how anyone can vote for him to me.

Well considering most men are pigs and everyone lies in politics (although this isn't even a political lie which is another argument in itself) that thins the pool by a lot.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-10-2016, 09:53 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Again. No one knows what Donald Trump has and hasn't done. Do you have any proof Trump has done something like you have suggested above? Just walk up to some random woman and grab her private area?

What I find interesting is that people are saying that Donald Trumps "grab them by the *****" comment is sexual assault. Well it technically isn't. What Donald Trump said was that women will let you do anything to them when you're famous, not that men can do whatever they want to women. What he was suggesting was that women will allow you to make sexual moves on them just because you're famous. But what people did was take his comments as "because I'm famous I can do whatever I want to women because they can't stop me". That is not what he said.

Donald Trump's comments were less about sexual assault and more about women letting famous men do things to them because obviously those famous men have money. If women are letting famous men do things to them just because they're famous, that is not sexual assault. It's just Trump's degrading view of women seeing a famous rich guy and going "yeah you can touch me".

Shouldn't Trump know what Trump did? 

"Technically" it is. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/09/anderson-cooper-told-trump-that-is-sexual-assault-the-justice-department-agrees/

How rich or famous do you need to be that women allow you to grab their genitals and it isn't unwanted sexual contact?

Please educate yourself. You can start with the experiment I suggested. Make sure you tell the police officer your rich and famous and let me know if that influences the police officers interpretation of your action. 

[Matt_Crimson]

(10-10-2016, 11:25 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote:

Quote:Shouldn't Trump know what Trump did? 

Yeah but you don't.

Quote:"Technically" it is. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/09/anderson-cooper-told-trump-that-is-sexual-assault-the-justice-department-agrees/

Oh wow "The justice department agrees". Great headline catcher. I'm sure the justice department agrees with a lot of things. You don't have to link me that article. I've seen the tape multiple times and watched the debate in its entirety last night and nothing Trump said made me believe he sexually assaulted anyone.

Quote:How rich or famous do you need to be that women allow you to grab their genitals and it isn't unwanted sexual contact

Depends on the person. This isnt a one size fits all argument. To be honest, I've heard women repeatedly talk about how they'd let "this person" or "that person" take advantage of them just so they could have their money. It's not as far fetched or as unbelievable as youre trying to make it seem.

Quote:Please educate yourself. You can start with the experiment I suggested. Make sure you tell the police officer your rich and famous and let me know if that influences the police officers interpretation of your action. 

But your so called "grope a police officer" experiment isn't even comparabble to what I'm saying and completely misses the point.

[Bengalbug]

Depends on the person. This isnt a one size fits all argument. To be honest, I've heard women repeatedly talk about how they'd let "this person" or "that person" take advantage of them just so they could have their money. It's not as far fetched or as unbelievable as youre trying to make it seem.

Honestly, this is the truth. Anyone with money or power will have women throwing themselves at men. As much as it pains me to say this, I don't think Ben R ever raped anyone at Miami. I went to Miami and I know how "easy" it is to get with girls. Now combine that with fame and money - they are going to throw themselves at Ben, and then cry wolf to try and capitalize on them.

We are talking about a guy, Donald Trump, who has gone on Howard stern, of course he has said things that would come back to bite him in the ass. With that said, almost every president (probably all) has had their fair share of affairs and infidelity. Nothing new here.

[Millhouse]

(10-10-2016, 01:43 AM)Dill Wrote:  
Last I heard she was speaking of 65,000 refugees to be brought in over several years. Where did you hear of 100.000 a year?

You are ok with the socialistic policies we already have, and don't want to see the expanded? Socialize K-12 but not the first two
years of college?  From her website it looks more like she is trying to help students pay back their crushing college loans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/14/white-house-plans-to-accept-at-least-110000-refugees-in-2017/#comments

She has already stated she agrees with the White House on this, just google it. And her Bernie plan is a lot more than just dealing with loans per her website. I made a thread about this in the P&R section. 

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

Quote:Depends on the person. This isnt a one size fits all argument. To be honest, I've heard women repeatedly talk about how they'd let "this person" or "that person" take advantage of them just so they could have their money. It's not as far fetched or as unbelievable as youre trying to make it seem.

Okay, let's discuss you specifically. How rich and famous does Donald Trump need be for you to allow him to grab your genitals without asking?

A. He is rich and famous enough now. 
B. More rich and famous. 
C. Less rich and famous. 

[fredtoast]

(10-10-2016, 12:17 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Depends on the person. This isnt a one size fits all argument. To be honest, I've heard women repeatedly talk about how they'd let "this person" or "that person" take advantage of them just so they could have their money. It's not as far fetched or as unbelievable as youre trying to make it seem.

And I know plenty of women that would not allow a rich man to molest them just because he has money.

So what is your point.  Are you really saying  that ALL women would have no problem with Trump just kissing them without even asking first?

This goes back to what I said a few pages ago.  The guys who support Trump don't see anything wrong with what he claims he did.

I have been in a lot of discussions with my make friends about women, and I can honestly say that I have never bragged about kissing a woman without even asking.  And none of my friends have either.  We have all talked about women we would like to get with, but we never say we would molest them without even asking.

[*bfine32*]

I just read where a spokesman for the Hillary Campaign told Trump to "Go f*** himself". This man advocating rape should have everyone up in arms.

[CageTheBengal]

(10-10-2016, 01:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I just read where a spokesman for the Hillary Campaign told Trump to "Go f*** himself". This man advocating rape should have everyone up in arms.

You can't rape yourself. Either your arm is sore from that incredible reach or your sense of humor is weak coffee.

[BmorePat87]

(10-10-2016, 01:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I just read where a spokesman for the Hillary Campaign told Trump to "Go f*** himself". This man advocating rape should have everyone up in arms.

Can you rape yourself?

[CageTheBengal]

(10-10-2016, 01:12 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Can you rape yourself?

Maybe if you can't control your arms? "My brain said no but my arms said yes."

[*bfine32*]

(10-10-2016, 01:09 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote:

You can't rape yourself. Either your arm is sore from that incredible reach or your sense of humor is weak coffee.

(10-10-2016, 01:12 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Can you rape yourself?

Oh look!! Condoning the words of someone wanting another to commit sexual acts upon themselves, by pointing to the practicality of it. 

[BmorePat87]

(10-10-2016, 01:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Oh look!! Condoning the words of someone wanting another to commit sexual acts upon themselves, by pointing to the practicality of it. 

I'm trying to figure out how telling someone to "go f themselves" is encouraging rape.

Do you have an answer or are you going to respond with a second nonsense reply?

[CageTheBengal]

(10-10-2016, 01:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Oh look!! Condoning the words of someone wanting another to commit sexual acts upon themselves, by pointing to the practicality of it. 

How is telling someone to go F yourself advocating rape?

That was your original point and I'd like to hear a straight answer. Something tells me you will just flex from on extreme to the other though.

[*bfine32*]

(10-10-2016, 01:19 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I'm trying to figure out how telling someone to "go f themselves" is encouraging rape.

Do you have an answer or are you going to respond with a second nonsense reply?

The exact same way that talking shit on a bus is sexual harassment. We don't know if Trump would consent to sex with himself, so we must assume he would not. Furthermore, we do not fully know Trump's internal feelings, he may struggle with his identity and/or multiple personalities. Tell the man to harm himself could cause severe internal conflict and lead to self-mutilation. The fact that you and others ignore this is troubling.    

Have I ever seen anyone rape themselves? Nope. Have I ever seen Trump gab anyone in the genitals? Nope

So I just take both at face value: Dudes talking shit, others will make much more out of it according to their bias. 

[BmorePat87]

(10-10-2016, 01:31 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The exact same way that talking shit on a bus is sexual harassment. We don't know if Trump would consent to sex with himself, so we must assume he would not. Furthermore, we do not fully know Trump's internal feelings, he may struggle with his identity and/or multiple personalities. Tell the man to harm himself could cause severe internal conflict and lead to self-mutilation. The fact that you and others ignore this is troubling.    

Have I ever seen anyone rape themselves? Nope. Have I ever seen Trump gab anyone in the genitals? Nope

So I just take both at face value: Dudes talking shit, others will make much more out of it according to their bias. 

Oh, you're just trying to have another excuse to lie about what others here said about the trump tape by making an asinine statement.

Are you going as Mike Pence for halloween?

[Vas Deferens]

(10-10-2016, 01:31 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The exact same way that talking shit on a bus is sexual harassment. We don't know if Trump would consent to sex with himself, so we must assume he would not. Furthermore, we do not fully know Trump's internal feelings, he may struggle with his identity and/or multiple personalities. Tell the man to harm himself could cause severe internal conflict and lead to self-mutilation. The fact that you and others ignore this is troubling.    

Have I ever seen anyone rape themselves? Nope. Have I ever seen Trump gab anyone in the genitals? Nope

So I just take both at face value: Dudes talking shit, others will make much more out of it according to their bias. 

dude.  you're ***** yourself wrong.

[Bengalbug]

(10-10-2016, 12:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: And I know plenty of women that would not allow a rich man to molest them just because he has money.

So what is your point.  Are you really saying  that ALL women would have no problem with Trump just kissing them without even asking first?

This goes back to what I said a few pages ago.  The guys who support Trump don't see anything wrong with what he claims he did.

I have been in a lot of discussions with my make friends about women, and I can honestly say that I have never bragged about kissing a woman without even asking.  And none of my friends have either.  We have all talked about women we would like to get with, but we never say we would molest them without even asking.

I didn't say the bolder comment, just replied. 

You never had a "what i would do to her" conversation in your entire life??

I understand what he said was wrong, but I can't believe even through your teenage years you never had a dream girl