House GOP guts ethics panel

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[GMDino]

(01-27-2017, 11:47 AM)bfine32 Wrote:

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(01-27-2017, 11:57 AM)GMDino Wrote:

When's the last time you turned on the faucet and didn't get water?

[GMDino]

(01-27-2017, 11:59 AM)bfine32 Wrote: When's the last time you turned on the faucet and didn't get water?

I'm sure that sounded better in your head.  Thanks.

[BigPapaKain]

(01-27-2017, 11:59 AM)bfine32 Wrote: When's the last time you turned on the faucet and didn't get water?

August, actually.

Instead I got some algae infested green soup that wasn't safe to put on my skin, let alone drink. Extra fun considering I live right next to the water reservoir and treatment plant.

Next question. 

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(01-27-2017, 03:32 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: August, actually.

Instead I got some algae infested green soup that wasn't safe to put on my skin, let alone drink. Extra fun considering I live right next to the water reservoir and treatment plant.

Next question. 

Was it the result of an oil pipeline rupture?

[GMDino]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century

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(01-27-2017, 03:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century

Somehow you must have gotten in you head that someone said pipes don't burst.

[GMDino]

(01-27-2017, 11:47 AM)bfine32 Wrote:

(01-27-2017, 11:59 AM)bfine32 Wrote: When's the last time you turned on the faucet and didn't get water?

(01-27-2017, 03:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Was it the result of an oil pipeline rupture?

(01-27-2017, 04:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Somehow you must have gotten in you head that someone said pipes don't burst.

Welp.

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(01-27-2017, 05:00 PM)GMDino Wrote: Welp.

We realized that you did not understand the point earlier. There was no need to re-enforce your lack of understanding. Let me help you along as I often do:

Poster A: Disputes that oil pipes ruin drinking water

Poster B: Oil pipes rupture, see.

Poster A: Of course they do. Do we have examples of this ruining the drinking water?

Poster B; Oil pipes rupture, see.

(refrain)

[GMDino]

(01-27-2017, 05:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: We realized that you did not understand the point earlier. There was no need to re-enforce your lack of understanding. Let me help you along as I often do:

Poster A: Disputes that oil pipes ruin drinking water

Poster B: Oil pipes rupture, see.

Poster A: Of course they do. Do we have examples of this ruining the drinking water?

Poster B; Oil pipes rupture, see.

(refrain)

(01-27-2017, 03:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century

Thought maybe someone would rather click on the link....but...

Quote:On June 7, a stopple fitting weld failed on a Wolverine Pipeline Company line, causing a rupture releasing 75,000 US gallons (280,000 L) of gasoline into the environment, and causing the evacuation of more than 500 houses in Blackman Charter Township, Michigan. The failure caused the shutdown of 30% of Michigan's gasoline supplies for nine days, contaminated a creek which flows into the Grand River, and a railroad track near the failure site was shut down for a week. Later tests found 715 anomalies in this pipeline. Wolverine later agreed to pay for switching houses in the area from local water wells to a city water source.[13][14]

On August 24, a 6-inch pipeline operated by Chevron failed from alleged external corrosion, spilling 126,000 gallons of crude oil into an unnamed creek, near Snyder, Texas. The creek was dry at the time. Later, a Federal Court ruled that the Clean Water Act did not apply, since there was no water flowing in the creek at the time.[20][21]

On July 3, a jury found Texas-New Mexico Pipeline (TNMP) Company guilty of fraud, gross negligence and willful misconduct in concealing a 1992 crude oil pipeline leak beneath a Midland, Texas residential subdivision, before selling the pipeline to EOTT Energy in 1999. Oil was discovered in the water table in late 2000, and in March 2001 a group of Midland residents sued EOTT, TNMP and Equilon. Residents living on affected land also received settlements. The spill was estimated in 2003 to be 9,000–13,000 barrels. 190 boxes full of TNMP documents about the pipeline dating from the late 1980s to early 1990s (prior to EOTT Energy taking over the pipeline) were dug up from a 45-foot-deep hole at a site along the company's pipeline in New Mexico.[77][78]

On October 6, a 12-inch petroleum products pipeline ruptured in Johnson County, Kansas, spilling about 100 to 200 barrels of Diesel fuel. Some of the Diesel contaminated a nearby waterway. There were no injuries.[87]

On February 2, a construction crew struck an Enbridge pipeline in Rusk County, Wisconsin with equipment, spilling 4,800 barrels (760 m3) of crude oil, of which only 2,066 barrels were recovered.[163] Some of the oil filled a hole more than 20 feet (6.1 m) deep and was reported to have contaminated the local water table.[164]

On July 28, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Illinois ordered Apex Oil Company Inc., to clean up ground water and soil contamination, at an expected cost of at least $150 million. During the period 1967 through 1988, Apex Oil's legal predecessor, Clark Oil and Refining Corp., released gasoline from leaking pipelines and other spills, that commingled with other responsible parties' releases and resulted in the large plume of refined petroleum substances beneath Hartford, Illinois. Vapors from the underground plume of millions of gallons of leaked and spilled petroleum products have migrated into houses in the village, causing years of fires, explosions, and evacuations.[192]

On July 26, the Kalamazoo River oil spill: Enbridge Energy Partners LLP (Enbridge), reported that a 30-inch (760 mm) pipeline belonging to Enbridge burst in Marshall, Michigan. Enbridge had numerous alarms from the affected Line 6B, but controllers thought the alarms were from phase separation, and the leak was not reported to Enbridge for 17 hours. Enbridge estimates over 800,000 US gallons (3,000,000 L) of crude oil leaked into Talmadge Creek, a waterway that feeds the Kalamazoo River,[253][254] whereas EPA reports over 1,139,569 gallons of oil have been recovered as of November 2011.[255] On July 27, 2010, an Administrative Order was issued by U.S. EPA requiring the performance of removal actions in connection with the facility. The Order requires Enbridge to immediately conduct removal of a discharge or to mitigate or prevent a substantial threat of a discharge of oil and to submit a Work Plan for the cleanup activities that was to include a Health and Safety Plan,[256] as required by 29 CFR 1910.120 (HAZWOPER). In 2012, the NTSB later cited known but unrepaired cracks and external corrosion as the cause.[257]

On August 10, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Justice Department announced that Plains All American Pipeline and several of its operating subsidiaries have agreed to spend approximately $41 million to upgrade 10,420 miles (16,770 km) of crude oil pipeline operated in the United States. The settlement resolves Plains' Clean Water Act violations for ten crude oil spills in Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Kansas, and requires the company to pay a $3.25 million civil penalty.[258]

A West Shore Pipe Line petroleum products pipeline burst near Jackson, Wisconsin on July 17, releasing about 54,000 gallons of gasoline. At least one family self evacuated due to the leak. At least 44 water wells nearby were contaminated from benzine in the gasoline, including a municipal well. A LF-ERW seam failure was suspected as the cause. Further testing revealed that at least 26 other areas on this pipeline needed repairs, with 22 within the Jackson Marsh Wildlife Area.[385][386][387][388]

On January 17, oil from a broken pipeline seeped into the Yellowstone River, and contaminated the water supply 10 miles south of Glendive, Montana. The release was from Bridger Pipeline LLC's 12-inch Poplar line, which can carry 42,000 barrels a day of crude from the Bakken formation and runs from Canada south to Baker, Montana. Bridger Pipeline is a subsidiary of True Cos., a privately held Wyoming-based company. The company said in a statement that the pipeline was shut down within an hour of the leak. About 30,000 gallons of crude was spilled, with about 28,000 gallons of crude being lost.[516][517][518]

[BigPapaKain]

(01-27-2017, 03:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Was it the result of an oil pipeline rupture?

Honestly couldn't tell you.