Hunter Biden faces 9 Felony Charges

[Luvnit2]

(12-08-2023, 01:11 PM)BIGDADDYFROMCINCINNATI Wrote: Hunter repaid all his tax obligations to the IRS, so the Gov't is not at a loss.  Most of the time when this is done, the gov't doesn't even prosecute b/c the IRS has their money and has been made whole. I see this more as theatre and much to do about nothing in the end.  Let's just say he is convicted or pleads as a first first-time offender to a non violent white-collar crime, he'll get probation at most.

Do you ever get it right. It is on record HB never paid tax on the 5 plus billion dollars he received from Ukraine energy company Burisma.


The DOJ knew it, but let the statute of limitations run out and thus no repayment and no penalty for anything in 2014 through 2016, Joe Biden was the VP. I am pretty sure it is in the indictment in California, but no penalty and he has never paid the taxes on that income.

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Hot take: Gavin Newsom is behind this frame-job so he can be president in 2024. I can see his plan to win in a landslide now...I gave you Hunter Biden AND I'm not Trump....everyone loves me!

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(12-08-2023, 03:41 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote:
Do you ever get it right. It is on record HB never paid tax on the 5 plus billion dollars he received from Ukraine energy company Burisma.


The DOJ knew it, but let the statute of limitations run out and thus no repayment and no penalty for anything in 2014 through 2016, Joe Biden was the VP. I am pretty sure it is in the indictment in California, but no penalty and he has never paid the taxes on that income.

Everything I've read states, Hunter paid the taxes + penalties and made the IRS whole so the gov't isn't at a loss.  Although the tax obligations were paid by a third party to the tune of $2-Milion, they were still paid.  If the statute of limitations has expired, then it's a moot point.

I guess that will all come out in court in the months to come,  but 99.9% of the time when someone is prosecuted for tax evasion, and they settle their obligations to the IRS the charges are dropped.  The tax being paid by a 3rd party doesn't matter. 



Hunter Biden's lawyer, Abbe Lowell, said in a statement his client had repaid his taxes in full and doesn't owe the IRS anything else at this time.

[Luvnit2]

(12-08-2023, 09:50 PM)BIGDADDYFROMCINCINNATI Wrote: Everything I've read states, Hunter paid the taxes + penalties and made the IRS whole so the gov't isn't at a loss.  Although the tax obligations were paid by a third party to the tune of $2-Milion, they were still paid.  If the statute of limitations has expired, then it's a moot point.

I guess that will all come out in court in the months to come,  but 99.9% of the time when someone is prosecuted for tax evasion, and they settle their obligations to the IRS the charges are dropped.  The tax being paid by a 3rd party doesn't matter. 



Hunter Biden's lawyer, Abbe Lowell, said in a statement his client had repaid his taxes in full and doesn't owe the IRS anything else at this time.

Read the indictment. He has not paid back all taxes, in fact he never filed taxes every year. 

It also states he did not pay all taxes for income in 2015 and 2016, those were the years Burisma paid him millions, but he never declared the income. Then the DOJ let the statutes run out, they knew it with their over 4 year investigation, but did not charge him.

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(12-09-2023, 01:06 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Read the indictment. He has not paid back all taxes, in fact he never filed taxes every year. 

It also states he did not pay all taxes for income in 2015 and 2016, those were the years Burisma paid him millions, but he never declared the income. Then the DOJ let the statutes run out, they knew it with their over 4 year investigation, but did not charge him.

there is no statute of limitations if tax forms were not filed for a year or if fraud has been committed

[Luvnit2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-demanded-wealthy-pay-hunter-evaded-1m-taxes

It is not just Biden, but all Democrats have been using the wealthy don't pay enough in taxes. Where is the outcry from the Democrats for the son of the POTUS who championed rich people pay taxes on Hunter Biden not paying millions in taxes to the IRS? Hunter will have his day n court, but he already pleaded guilty to some of the tax charges. Biden called for hiring 87,000 more IRS agents, yet Biden's DOJ[ put a halt to the IRS investigation. If nt for 2 whistleblowers who have been vindicated as factual witnesses, chances are Hunter Biden would have skated. The whistleblowers from the IRS told Weiss and others prior to the statutes running out HB did not claim any income from Burisma (Ukraine) and a Chinese company. Yet the DOJ let millions of taxes owed by Hunter Biden expire./b] Below is the article.

Biden repeatedly demanded wealthy pay 'fair share' while Hunter allegedly evaded over $1M in taxes
President Biden has also proposed measures to target tax cheats
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Hunter Biden's indictment in California this week on nine tax-related charges shines an awkward light on his father's repeated promises about forcing the wealthy to pay their "fair share" of taxes.

The younger Biden allegedly carried out a multiyear scheme to evade paying $1.4 million in federal taxes while leading a hedonistic lifestyle that included spending exorbitant sums on escorts and illegal drugs.
According to Special Counsel David Weiss, the president's son "engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019, from in or about January 2017 through in or about October 15, 2020, and to evade the assessment of taxes for tax year 2018 when he filed false returns in or about February 2020," which was in the middle of his dad's presidential campaign.

Weiss said that, in "furtherance of that scheme," Hunter "subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company, Owasco, PC by withdrawing millions" from the company "outside of the payroll and tax withholding process that it was designed to perform."

Hunter allegedly "spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills," and that in 2018, he "stopped paying his outstanding and overdue taxes for tax year 2015." If convicted, the president's son faces up to 17 years in prison.

President Biden has repeatedly called on the rich to pay their fair share in taxes and pledged to go after "tax cheats" despite his son allegedly evading his own income taxes for several years.
Throughout the 2020 campaign — when Hunter allegedly avoided his taxes — Biden routinely called on the rich and corporations to pay their fair share.

"Corporations need to pay their fair share in taxes," Biden posted on social media in November 2019. "I'll reverse Trump’s giveaway to the super-wealthy and corporations because it’s time we reward work, not just wealth."
Throughout the 2020 campaign — when Hunter allegedly avoided his taxes — Biden routinely called on the rich and corporations to pay their fair share.

"Corporations need to pay their fair share in taxes," Biden posted on social media in November 2019. "I'll reverse Trump’s giveaway to the super-wealthy and corporations because it’s time we reward work, not just wealth."
Biden continued the call throughout the 2020 campaign and his presidency.

During his first re-election campaign rally this year, he targeted the wealthy and called for them to cough up more money. And before that, he proposed doubling the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to target tax cheats.

In May 2021, Biden called for hiring 87,000 new IRS workers over the next decade as part of an effort to beef up the agency's budget by $80 billion, Politico reported at the time.

"The president's compliance proposals are designed to ameliorate existing inequities by focusing on high-end evasion," the Treasury Department wrote in a report.
"These unpaid taxes come at a cost to American households and compliant taxpayers as policymakers choose rising deficits, lower spending on necessary priorities, or further tax increases to compensate for the lost revenue."
Biden has also said paying higher taxes is "patriotic" and has regularly singled out the rich.

"For too long we've had an economy that gives every break in the world to the folks who need it the least. It's time to grow the economy from the bottom up," Biden said months after entering office and calling on the rich to pay their "fair share" in taxes, a line he's repeatedly said during his presidency.

"I'm a capitalist, but just pay your fair share," Biden said at his State of the Union address this year.

[Luvnit2]

(12-09-2023, 01:21 PM)pally Wrote: there is no statute of limitations if tax forms were not filed for a year or if fraud has been committed

Again, read the indictment. There is a statute of limitations. 


In his transcribed interview, U.S. Attorney Weiss confirmed that the Biden Justice

Department allowed the statute of limitations for the 2014 and 2015 tax year charges to expire.

https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/judiciary.house.gov/files/2023-12-05-The-Justice-Department-s-Deviations-from-Standard-Processes-in-its-Investigation-of-Hunter-Biden.pdf.  This is a great read and contains the factual testimony under oath of 2 high level whistle blowers. If you want the truth, here it is. It is a long document but outlines how the DOJ stonewalled the HB investigation and also stopped any investigation into Joe Biden.



FBI bureaucrats impeded the investigation into Hunter Biden by slow-walking investigative action and withholding relevant information.



Senior officials in the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office attempted to avoid learning information that could implicate President Biden in criminal activity.



The Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office continually sought to keep the Biden name out of the investigation



Prosecutors in Weiss’s office allowed the statute of limitations for some of Hunter Biden’s most serious crimes to lapse.




In late 2021, Special Agent Ziegler compiled a Special Agent Report (SAR) that

recommended prosecuting Hunter Biden for tax crimes related to the 2014 and 2015 tax years.191

Ziegler confirmed in his SAR that “AUSA Wolf has reviewed the appendices and the charges

cited in this report and agrees with the prosecution recommendation of the above cited charges

against [Robert Hunter Biden






During his transcribed interview, Shapley testified that the Biden Justice Department

allowed the statute of limitations to lapse on the 2014 and 2015 tax crimes.195 Specifically,
Shapley stated that up until a meeting he attended with Weiss on October 7, 2022, he believed,
based on statements made by Attorney General Garland and Weiss, that prosecutors “were
deciding whether to charge 2014 and 2015 tax violations.”196 During this period, Shapley
explained, prosecutors and Hunter Biden’s legal team entered into agreements to toll the statute
of limitations for crimes pertaining to the 2014 and 2015 tax years.197 However, despite the
defense counsel’s willingness to toll the statute of limitations on the charges again, the Biden
Justice Department ultimately allowed the statute of limitations to lapse on those years in
November 2022.
198 Shapley cited this decision as yet another example of the Biden Justice
Department disregarding established norms to benefit Hunter Biden, explaining that “[l]etting a
statute of limitations expire in an active criminal investigation is not normal.”



As Shapley and Ziegler described in their testimony to Congress, the possible felony

charges against Hunter Biden for the 2014 and 2015 tax years involved “the most substantive
criminal conduct.”176 Those tax years involved income from Hunter Biden’s position on the
board of directors of Burisma Holdings, and most importantly, connected Joe Biden’s actions as
Vice President to his son’s alleged criminal conduct.
Hunter Biden served on the board of directors of Burisma from April 2014 until April
2019.177 During Hunter Biden’s tenure, Burisma paid him up to $1 million annually, though it cut
his salary two months after his father left office.
178 While Hunter Biden served on the board,
Burisma and its founder and owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, were under investigation by the
Ukrainian government.179 According to one Burisma executive, Burisma hired Hunter Biden
specifically to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.”180 Burisma executives
explicitly asked Hunter Biden to help alleviate the “government pressure from Ukrainian
Government investigations into Mykola, et cetera.”181 In response, Hunter Biden “called
D.C.”182 The Ukrainian government soon fired the investigating Prosecutor General, Viktor
Shokin, “after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in U.S. aid” earmarked
for Ukraine if Shokin remained in office.183 Notably, then-Vice President Biden unilaterally
decided to change U.S. policy regarding the loan during a plane ride to Ukraine.
184
According to evidence discovered by IRS investigators, one way in which Hunter Biden
evaded paying taxes on his income from Burisma was by having it sent to the bank account of a
company he co-owned with his business partner and then distributing the money to himself while
falsely telling the IRS that the distribution was a nontaxable loan.185 Shapley explained that this
was a “textbook” affirmative scheme by Hunter Biden to avoid paying taxes.186 In basic terms, as
Ziegler put it, “you can’t loan yourself your own money. It just doesn’t make any sense.”187

Notably, with respect to this particular scheme, IRS investigators could find no evidence

typically needed to verify that a given payment is, in fact, a loan.188 However, when Shapley
informed Tax Division trial attorney Jack Morgan that there was no such evidence, Morgan
replied that “this is not a typical case” due to the fact that it involved President Biden’s son.189
Email correspondence between Hunter Biden and his business associate Eric Schwerin sheds
additional light on this scheme.

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So they are saying

1) he actually filed taxes those years
and
2) that his failure to declare all of his income did not constitute fraud.

I'm not sure what your point is about President Biden's statements. He should ignore a problem with our tax structure and laws because his son may have violated them. It is pretty straightforward...the rich and large corporations don't pay their fair share. Hunter Biden failed to pay his taxes. The 2 statements are not mutually exclusive.

Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are 2 separate people. Hunter is over 50 years old. His father is not responsible for his actions. I realize it is a tough concept to comprehend but give it time and you will realize it is true.

[Luvnit2]

(12-09-2023, 02:08 PM)pally Wrote: So they are saying

1) he actually filed taxes those years
and
2) that his failure to declare all of his income did not constitute fraud.

I'm not sure what your point is about President Biden's statements.  He should ignore a problem with our tax structure and laws because his son may have violated them.  It is pretty straightforward...the rich and large corporations don't pay their fair share.  Hunter Biden failed to pay his taxes.  The 2 statements are not mutually exclusive.  

Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are 2 separate people.  Hunter is over 50 years old.  His father is not responsible for his actions.  I realize it is a tough concept to comprehend but give it time and you will realize it is true.

I get that HB being a tax cheat does not mean Joe Biden is a tax cheat. Hunter Biden did not claim his income from Burisma (estimated over 5 million dollars) and as I said, the DOJ let the statute of limitations run out. I never mentioned fraud, but yes a non corrupt DOJ and special counsel would bring charges for fraud and also for violation of FARA, failure to register agent. They say still it is on going investigation, so we will see if more charges are added.

Did you read the whistleblower testimony I provided? They are clear, the DOJ stopped them from pursuing any road leading to Joe Biden, even though they had many roads to pursue. The DOJ provided road blocks to the IRS, to me that is a major problem. Why wouldn't an honest DOJ let them continue roads leading to Joe Biden?

Did you know there were 6 SAR's sent to Joe Biden's Delaware address in 2020? That alone makes him involved.