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Impeachment Hearings
(02-06-2020, 09:03 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I guess I'll say emotional since you will not accept any response I provide. You know about the arguments of Biden,


I know the arguments about Biden.  No one has ignored them.  IN fact we have discussed them over and over again.  You just refuse to remove your head from the sand.


Joe Biden did nothing wrong when he threatened to withhold foreign aide because he was acting on official policy for the best interest of The US government, the IMF, and our European allies.  If his intent was to protect his son then he would have wanted the corrupt prosecutor to REMAIN IN HIS POSITION instead of being removed.  .  .  .  As for Hunter Biden there are no allegations that he did anything corrupt.  It is impossible to investigate allegations that do not exist.

(02-06-2020, 09:03 PM)HarleyDog Wrote:  the fake dossier, 


Most of the dossier was proven to be true.  The trump campaign team did meet with the Russians in an attempt to get dirt on Hillary.  Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, and George Papadopoulos all have either been convicted or pled guilty to crimes in relation to the Russian's attempts to influence the 2016 election.  Maybe you can explain to them how all the evidence was "fake".


(02-06-2020, 09:03 PM)HarleyDog Wrote:  James Comey and the FBI,


Comey handed Trump the 2016 election by making public the fact that Hillary investigation was being re-opened while keeping secret the investigation into the possible Russian influence in the election.  Then Trump fired him because Comey refused to back off on the investigation of Flynn and the Russian influence in the election.  There is zero evidence that the FBI ever did anything to frame Trump with false evidence of any sort.

(02-06-2020, 09:03 PM)HarleyDog Wrote:  the collusion with the Russians,


Evidence was there to support an investigation (Trump Tower meeting) but collusion never proven.  It would have been a dereliction of duty if the investigation was nat carried out based on the evidence pointing to collusion.

(02-06-2020, 09:03 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: the deleted emails, 


Don't know what emails Trump is accused of deleting.  But I do know that when many Trump backers can't defend his actions they try to deflect by bring up something completely unrelated.
(02-07-2020, 01:51 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But I do know that when many Trump backers can't defend his actions they try to deflect by bring up something completely unrelated.

Oh, like spewing a senseless, fabricated  “head on a pike” story? I heard something like that, but don’t think it came from a trump supporter. And since when is a dossier which is MOSTLY true, not a lie? As for the Biden’s, that truth will come out, but most of the left will not accept it. 

Oh and hey, received a call from Bernie Sanders today. He said, “Don’t trust the left.” I hung up on him cause I don’t want to collude with a wanna be socialist.
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(02-07-2020, 08:24 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Oh, like spewing a senseless, fabricated  “head on a pike” story? I heard something like that, but don’t think it came from a trump supporter. And since when is a dossier which is MOSTLY true, not a lie? As for the Biden’s, that truth will come out, but most of the left will not accept it. 

Oh and hey, received a call from Bernie Sanders today. He said, “Don’t trust the left.” I hung up on him cause I don’t want to collude with a wanna be socialist.

Eh, take it easy on the Lefties today.  They've endured quite a few blows to their political esteem this week.

The POTUS delivered a fantastic SOTU address.
The Democrats screwed up their own caucus in Iowa.
The POTUS was acquitted in the impeachment attempt.
The Court of Appeals ruled out the Emoluments Case.
The FBI ruled that the investigation into Carter Page was illegally performed.
And, Col. Vindman was relieved of his duties at the White House.

For a moment, I almost feel sorry for them.  Then, I remember things like Madonna dreaming about blowing up the White House, and Kathy Griffin with the Trump severed head..  
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(02-07-2020, 08:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Eh, take it easy on the Lefties today.  They've endured quite a few blows to their political esteem this week.

The POTUS delivered a fantastic SOTU address.
The Democrats screwed up their own caucus in Iowa.
The POTUS was acquitted in the impeachment attempt.
The Court of Appeals ruled out the Emoluments Case.
The FBI ruled that the investigation into Carter Page was illegally performed.
And, Col. Vindman was relieved of his duties at the White House.

For a moment, I almost feel sorry for them.  Then, I remember things like Madonna dreaming about blowing up the White House, and Kathy Griffin with the Trump severed head..  

So they were the ones with the head on a pike? Makes sense.
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(02-07-2020, 08:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Eh, take it easy on the Lefties today.  They've endured quite a few blows to their political esteem this week.

The POTUS delivered a fantastic SOTU address.

If you consider making a mockery of a constitutional duty by turning it into a partisan campaign speech "fantastic," then you have some twisted priorities.

(02-07-2020, 08:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The Democrats screwed up their own caucus in Iowa.

I'll give you this one. That SNAFU was a shit show.

(02-07-2020, 08:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The POTUS was acquitted in the impeachment attempt.

With bi-partisan support to find him guilty, for the first time in history, and with Republican Senators almost all agreeing he did something wrong but saying they will shirk their constitutional duties because they are scared of the electoral repercussions. Thus they put their party before the country.

(02-07-2020, 08:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The Court of Appeals ruled out the Emoluments Case.

They ruled out one of the emoluments cases. Still others going through the courts.

(02-07-2020, 08:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The FBI ruled that the investigation into Carter Page was illegally performed.

They said that the continuations of the surveillance, that actually occurred during the Trump administration, didn't have enough evidence behind them. They did not make the same determination for the original surveillance.

(02-07-2020, 08:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: And, Col. Vindman was relieved of his duties at the White House.

Which was quite possibly an illegal action and could, in itself, be considered an impeachable act if we had a Senate willing to perform their duties.
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No sure where to lay this one but since it is about Trump/Rudy and the Bidens:



To be clear: "The DOJ isn't investigating the Bidens...Rudy Giuliani [url=https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani][/url]is and the DOJ is then investigating what *HE* finds." 

And no one knows who is paying Rudy for this.

You can't make this stuff up.
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(02-10-2020, 11:56 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: If you consider making a mockery of a constitutional duty by turning it into a partisan campaign speech "fantastic," then you have some twisted priorities.

That first requires an understanding of the Constitution. 
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(02-10-2020, 12:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: No sure where to lay this one but since it is about Trump/Rudy and the Bidens:



To be clear: "The DOJ isn't investigating the Bidens...Rudy Giuliani [url=https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani][/url]is and the DOJ is then investigating what *HE* finds." 

And no one knows who is paying Rudy for this.

You can't make this stuff up.

Thank god. This is the real scandal. 
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(02-07-2020, 08:24 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: And since when is a dossier which is MOSTLY true, not a lie?


When it provides the key evidence for an investigation that found a foreign government attempted to interfere with our election and that the Trump campaign committee was meeting with them.

Sad part is that you don't even know which parts were true and which parts have yet to be proven.  You just call it "fake" because that is what the right-wing media tells you to say.
(02-10-2020, 12:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: No sure where to lay this one but since it is about Trump/Rudy and the Bidens:



To be clear: "The DOJ isn't investigating the Bidens...Rudy Giuliani [url=https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani][/url]is and the DOJ is then investigating what *HE* finds." 

And no one knows who is paying Rudy for this.

You can't make this stuff up.


It does not matter if they ever find anythuing.

Just being able to say "It is under investigation" is enough to find them guilty for the Fox crowd.
(02-10-2020, 05:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It does not matter if they ever find anythuing.

Just being able to say "It is under investigation" is enough to find them guilty for the Fox crowd.

Agreed.

That's all DJT wanted from the Ukraine to begin with.
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(02-10-2020, 05:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It does not matter if they ever find anything.

Just being able to say "He was impeached" is enough to find him guilty for the CNN crowd.

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(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Just laughed in my mind at how little needed to be changed.)
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(02-11-2020, 11:24 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Ninja Ninja Ninja Ninja Ninja 


(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Just laughed in my mind at how little needed to be changed.)

This is very simple.

Which side demanded the announcement not the investigation?
Which side wanted witnesses, which side didn't? 

That's enough to tell you how each side determines guilt.
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(02-11-2020, 01:18 PM)Dill Wrote: This is very simple.

Which side demanded the announcement not the investigation?
Which side wanted witnesses, which side didn't? 

That's enough to tell you how each side determines guilt.

It's funny because he proved Fred's point 
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(02-11-2020, 01:18 PM)Dill Wrote: This is very simple.

Which side demanded the announcement not the investigation?
Which side wanted witnesses, which side didn't? 

That's enough to tell you how each side determines guilt.

You're taking my joke way too seriously. I was just making fun of the #foreverimpeached stuff that was floating around online (including by members of Congress) both before and after the Senate vote.
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Trump tweets that Stone is "unfairly" being sentenced and Barr jumps up and has the DOJ step in.

Congrats to the Senate GOP for allowing this to happen.

 
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(02-11-2020, 01:24 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You're taking my joke way too seriously. I was just making fun of the #foreverimpeached stuff that was floating around online (including by members of Congress) both before and after the Senate vote.

Oop. sorry Len.  Guess I was guilty of locked and loaded reading.
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But the minions are getting their judges so why should they worry about the DOJ.

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