Iraq Veteran Fired Due To Skin Color

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455179-dccc-exec-resigns-amid-furor-over-minority-representation

Quote:The executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) resigned abruptly on Monday amid members’ complaints that the committee’s upper echelons lacked diversity.

Allison Jaslow, a top aide to DCCC Chairwoman Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.), told committee aides she was quitting effective immediately at an all-staff meeting on Monday, one person in the room confirmed to The Hill.

Jaslow later confirmed her resignation on Twitter, writing that the job had been "an honor and a true privilege."

Her departure was first reported by Politico. It came after Reps. Vicente Gonzalez (D-Texas) and Filemon Vela (D-Texas) openly complained about the lack of diversity in the senior management positions of the House Democrats' campaign arm.

Gonzalez and Vela said the DCCC was in “complete chaos.”

Jaslow has been a top aide to Bustos since 2012, when she managed her winning campaign against then-Rep. Bobby Schilling ®. Jaslow served as Bustos’s chief of staff before leaving to take a job running Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.

Most senior DCCC officials this year are white men. The most senior person of color at the committee, chief of staff Jalisa Washington-Price, left in February, just months after Bustos took over, to take a senior position on Sen. Kamala Harris’s (D-Calif.) presidential campaign.

Bustos has been managing the fallout from the staff crisis since last week, when she held an all-staff meeting. Another conference call over the weekend failed to assuage doubts, and Bustos returned to Washington on Monday to oversee another all-staff meeting, where Jaslow quit.

The DCCC did not immediately say who would head the committee in Jaslow’s place.

Are Democrats their own worst enemy right now? Relatively young female veteran who was an aide on a winning campaign that beat an incumbent of the other party and ran IAVA.

Thought they'd be pretty happy with how things were going after winning the House in midterms.

When qualified and competent white people get fired only because they are white for the sake of "diversity", when does diversity then just become racism called by another name?

[Belsnickel]

I'm failing to see the part about her getting fired.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(07-30-2019, 08:19 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm failing to see the part about her getting fired.

Then you're being willfully ignorant.

You think for even a second that if those two House Reps didn't just openly complain about her having her job with her skin color that she would have resigned? 

I say willfully because it's not rocket science Bels, and you're more than smart enough.

[CJD]

People calling for diversity would not have fired a white woman. They would have fired a white man.

Maybe she resigned in protest to the idea that there should be more diversity? I'm not sure.

[Belsnickel]

(07-30-2019, 08:39 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Then you're being willfully ignorant.

You think for even a second that if those two House Reps didn't just openly complain about her having her job with her skin color that she would have resigned? 

I say willfully because it's not rocket science Bels, and you're more than smart enough.

I don't see where they complained about her having her job. They complained about a lack of diversity. You're making some huge assumptions by saying she was fired because there is nothing in that story about the Representatives pointing to her specifically. Your logic does not track without a heavy dose of bias.

[Belsnickel]

(07-30-2019, 08:53 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: People calling for diversity would not have fired a white woman. They would have fired a white man.

Maybe she resigned in protest to the idea that there should be more diversity? I'm not sure.

Given the two Reps talking about the chaos in the DCCC, it's possible that she was tired of the bullshit. Maybe she fell on her sword for the sake of getting some more diverse staff. Maybe she held some role in the hiring of folks and so she actually held some responsibility for the lack of diversity.

This is why it is far from "willfully ignorant" to not assume she was fired for her skin color. There are a lot of possible situations here, it just requires looking at the whole thing with a little less bias.

[jj22]

I don't think this thread turned out well.

Clearly she wasn't fired.

[Au165]

This is interesting because you literally have an article about someone resigning and the OP re titles it "fired". There was also a slant added with the "Veteran" piece to the title which was just passing information in the article but not really a focus of it. The intent here seems to be to try and re frame this as a "patriot was fired because they were white" and that wasn't true based on the facts. What ended up happening was someone read an article, pulled out the information they wanted to see and recast it as something completely different.

This is actually a really good example of how politics are working today in America.

[GMDino]

Is this what Trump meant by Democrats playing the race card? 

[Dill]

(07-30-2019, 09:04 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't see where they complained about her having her job. They complained about a lack of diversity. You're making some huge assumptions by saying she was fired because there is nothing in that story about the Representatives pointing to her specifically. Your logic does not track without a heavy dose of bias.

Oh yeah? Well by refusing to stray from the given facts and by refusing to make huge assumptions to fill in the gaps, you are showing your Democratic bias. 

Not the first time, either. Just sayin.'

[Dill]

(07-30-2019, 09:35 AM)Au165 Wrote: This is interesting because you literally have an article about someone resigning and the OP re titles it "fired". There was also a slant added with the "Veteran" piece to the title which was just passing information in the article but not really a focus of it. The intent here seems to be to try and re frame this as a "patriot was fired because they were white" and that wasn't true based on the facts. What ended up happening was someone read an article, pulled out the information they wanted to see and recast it as something completely different.

This is actually a really good example of how politics are working today in America.

Well some of the facts are right. The woman who resigned was white. And minorities were complaining.

If you ignore some of the other facts, then this is clearly a case of reverse discrimination. An alternative fact.

Looks like you are willfully blind to alternative facts.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(07-30-2019, 09:07 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Given the two Reps talking about the chaos in the DCCC, it's possible that she was tired of the bullshit. Maybe she fell on her sword for the sake of getting some more diverse staff. Maybe she held some role in the hiring of folks and so she actually held some responsibility for the lack of diversity.

This is why it is far from "willfully ignorant" to not assume she was fired for her skin color. There are a lot of possible situations here, it just requires looking at the whole thing with a little less bias.

A woman is forced to resign because others thought she didn't have the right skin color: 
"It's possible she was tired of the bullshit."
"Maybe she fell on her sword."
"Maybe she held some role in the hiring of folks."


You're sounding like a defender of Harvey Weinstein did, just you're defending racism instead of rape. I pointed out this woman because she was a veteran and probably the exact kind of talent that they needed to get more moderate votes, but people used their power to force not just her, but SIX people to resign from their job solely due to the color of their skin. That's racism.

Talk about bias. There's really not a lot of possible situations when it immediately follows and outcry to do something about a lack of diversity and then six people are forced to resign due to skin color.

[Belsnickel]

(07-30-2019, 10:48 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: A woman is forced to resign because others thought she didn't have the right skin color: 

I stopped right there because this is already making unsubstantiated claims. There is no evidence she was forced to resign and there is no evidence her resignation was a result of her skin color.

You are making assumptions that are not rooted in the actual facts.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(07-30-2019, 10:10 AM)Dill Wrote: Well some of the facts are right. The woman who resigned was white. And minorities were complaining.

If you ignore some of the other facts, then this is clearly a case of reverse discrimination. An alternative fact.

Looks like you are willfully blind to alternative facts.

No such thing as reverse discrimination. Or reverse racism.

It's just plain discrimination and racism, regardless of who did it.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(07-30-2019, 10:50 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I stopped right there because this is already making unsubstantiated claims. There is no evidence she was forced to resign and there is no evidence her resignation was a result of her skin color.

You are making assumptions that are not rooted in the actual facts.

Powerful Black and Latino House Reps: "We need more diversity NOW. Make it happen."
*6 White People immediately resign from jobs they probably have spent most of their lives trying to get.*

Bels: "No evidence they were forced! No evidence it was because of their skin color!"

You sure you don't want to throw in a "no collusion" or maybe a "fake news" while you're at it, oh orange one? I really thought you were better than trying to die on the hill of "1+1=/=2".

[Belsnickel]

(07-30-2019, 10:54 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Powerful Black and Latino House Reps: "We need more diversity NOW. Make it happen."
*6 White People immediately resign from jobs they probably have spent most of their lives trying to get.*

Bels: "No evidence they were forced! No evidence it was because of their skin color!"

You sure you don't want to throw in a "no collusion" or maybe a "fake news" while you're at it, oh orange one? I really thought you were better than trying to die on the hill of "1+1=/=2".

I only see mention of one person in the article you posted resigning. Also, one of the most important principles in thinking critically about information is recognizing that correlation does not equal causation. There needs to be more information to create a causal link between two things. All you have is correlational evidence, or what is called circumstantial.

You joke about the fake news claims, but making these logical leaps and assumptions is what has led to this. News agencies, specifically the corporate 24/7 news channels, have long been sensationalizing stories by doing the sort of thing you're doing in this thread. Instead of getting these opinions on the news we should be saying, to quote Sgt. Friday, "all we want are the facts, ma'am."

[GMDino]

(07-30-2019, 08:12 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455179-dccc-exec-resigns-amid-furor-over-minority-representation


Are Democrats their own worst enemy right now? Relatively young female veteran who was an aide on a winning campaign that beat an incumbent of the other party and ran IAVA.

Thought they'd be pretty happy with how things were going after winning the House in midterms.

When qualified and competent white people get fired only because they are white for the sake of "diversity", when does diversity then just become racism called by another name?

(07-30-2019, 10:48 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: A woman is forced to resign because others thought she didn't have the right skin color: 
"It's possible she was tired of the bullshit."
"Maybe she fell on her sword."
"Maybe she held some role in the hiring of folks."


You're sounding like a defender of Harvey Weinstein did, just you're defending racism instead of rape. I pointed out this woman because she was a veteran and probably the exact kind of talent that they needed to get more moderate votes, but people used their power to force not just her, but SIX people to resign from their job solely due to the color of their skin. That's racism.

Talk about bias. There's really not a lot of possible situations when it immediately follows and outcry to do something about a lack of diversity and then six people are forced to resign due to skin color.

The executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) resigned abruptly on Monday amid members’ complaints that the committee’s upper echelons lacked diversity.


Nothing in your article says fired or forced to resign.  You made an assumption.  


So let's look at the original Politico story cited in your article:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/29/top-dccc-staffer-out-amid-diversity-uproar-1439525

Quote:On Monday morning, Allison Jaslow, DCCC executive director and a close ally of Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.) — chair of the committee — resigned during a tense meeting at the party’s Capitol Hill headquarters. And in the next 10 hours, much of the senior staff was out: Jared Smith, the communications director and another Bustos ally; Melissa Miller, a top DCCC communications aide; Molly Ritner, political director; Nick Pancrazio, deputy executive director; and Van Ornelas, the DCCC’s director of diversity.


Jacqui Newman, the chief operating officer for the campaign arm, will serve as interim executive director and facilitate the search for a permanent replacement, Bustos said in a statement late Monday.


“Today has been a sobering day filled with tough conversations that too often we avoid," Bustos said. "But I can say confidently that we are taking the first steps toward putting the DCCC back on path to protect and expand our majority, with a staff that truly reflects the diversity of our Democratic caucus and our party."

Based on that story it seems she resigned because the committee was not happy with how she was handing the lack of diversity...not cause she was white herself.  If she disagreed with them then she can resign...that is not being forced out or fired.


Let's dig deeper:


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/25/dccc-campaign-black-latino-1435611

Quote:House Democrats’ campaign arm is locked in a long-simmering battle with prominent black and Hispanic lawmakers who believe the party committee and its chairwoman have shortchanged people of color.


Senior Hispanic and black members of Congress have privately clashed with Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.) over her personnel decisions, what they say are tone-deaf comments on race and whether she's lived up to the promises she made during the campaign to win the chairmanship of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

“There is not one person of color — black or brown, that I’m aware of — at any position of authority or decision-making in the DCCC,” said Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio), a former chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus. “It is shocking, it is shocking, and something needs to be done about it.”


Bustos sought a meeting with Fudge, and Fudge said no.


“Until they show me they are serious about diversity, there’s no reason for me to meet with them,” Fudge said.


And Fudge isn’t alone. Interviews with more than two dozen Democratic lawmakers, aides and strategists detailed months of frustration and unanswered questions about Bustos’ efforts to retain staffers of color in top positions, boost Latino voter outreach and hire firms run by people of color. They said Bustos was tactless when challenged by lawmakers of color.


“The overall plan for Latino outreach seems to be some 1980s playbook, which doesn't work anymore,” Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said.

The DCCC declined to make Bustos available for an interview but said the “DCCC has continued to increase diversity amongst our staff.”


“Anyone seeking to divide our party and stoke infighting between Democrats at a time when Donald Trump is in the White House is undermining our ability to protect the majority,” DCCC spokesman Jared Smith said.



A DCCC aide also said “nearly 50 percent of the senior staff identifies as racially diverse” but they declined to name a senior staffer who is a person of color. In addition, they said 42 percent of the DCCC's entire staff identifies as racially diverse and 55 percent of the staff are women. And the DCCC said that 13 out of 27 senior staffers identify as African American, Asian or Pacific Islander, or Latino.

This appears to be a situation where there were questions on how to handle issues and the leadership thought there WERE NO issues so rather than change they quit an will let someone else handle it.

I see nothing in any of the linked articles that say they wanted the leadership to step down...only to address their concerns over the lack of diversity.

No one was fired or "forced to resign".  

I should add you (universal) probably won't see article like these about the "big tent" GOP.  White is alright with them.  

[Mike M (the other one)]

Hahaha funny.
First complaints about diversity at the top.
Then in a matter of days, 6 white people resign, but they weren't forced to resign, just pressured right?

"In a statement Sunday that was first reported by Politico, Reps. Vicente Gonzalez and Filemon Velam, both of Texas, called for Jaslow’s firing and said the DCCC was “in complete chaos.” "

Again just a coincidence right, no pressure from anyone.

[Belsnickel]

(07-30-2019, 11:45 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Hahaha funny.
First complaints about diversity at the top.
Then in a matter of days, 6 white people resign, but they weren't forced to resign, just pressured right?

"In a statement Sunday that was first reported by Politico, Reps. Vicente Gonzalez and Filemon Velam, both of Texas, called for Jaslow’s firing and said the DCCC was “in complete chaos.” "

Again just a coincidence right, no pressure from anyone.

Source for six resigning? Source for the Representatives calling for her firing?

[Mike M (the other one)]

(07-30-2019, 11:50 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Source for six resigning? Source for the Representatives calling for her firing?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/29/top-dccc-staffer-out-amid-diversity-uproar-1439525

Allison Jaslow
Jared Smith
Melissa Miller
Molly Ritner
Nick Pancrazio

Van Ornelas  _ hmm, maybe 5 white people maybe, not sure can't find anything about her.

Remember, they called for resignations on Sunday, then On Monday was the massacre.