Is It Possible To Beat ISIS?

[BFritz21]

I saw a video of a militant training grade school kids- looked like they were below the fifth grade- on how to use automatic weapons and kill people.

ISIS also seems like an ideology, as opposed to a set organization, so when one set of fighters die, there will be a new group growing up to take their place.

Will they start attacking us when we lay-off a bit and draw-out of those areas?

Short of nuking Syria and Iraq and turning that whole area into a wasteland, is it even possible to defeat ISIS?

[6andcounting]

It's never possible to win a war in total defeat, unless it's a war with a government that operates established borders. Iraq and Libya were defeated within hours, basically.

Linda might be able to destroy ISIS, but that's the only real shot at total defeat.

[*Nately120*]

(12-26-2015, 05:25 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I saw a video of a militant training grade school kids- looked like they were below the fifth grade- on how to use automatic weapons and kill people.

Thankfully the USA is fighting back by marketing firearms directly to children.

[Bengalzona]

(12-26-2015, 05:25 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I saw a video of a militant training grade school kids- looked like they were below the fifth grade- on how to use automatic weapons and kill people.

ISIS also seems like an ideology, as opposed to a set organization, so when one set of fighters die, there will be a new group growing up to take their place.

Will they start attacking us when we lay-off a bit and draw-out of those areas?

Short of nuking Syria and Iraq and turning that whole area into a wasteland, is it even possible to defeat ISIS?

ISIL defeats themselves by their extremism. Only desperate people will ally themselves with extremists. The only way we can lose is to give in to fear and start acting foolishly. Foolishness on our part is defined on one extreme as completely ignoring them and on the other extreme as being overeager to send ground troops. I could pontificate on why sending ground troops at this point is foolish, but suffice it to say that the hit-and-run ambush has been successfully practiced in this region for over 4000 years and is their primary tactic.

Nuking anyone on this planet (outside of responding to a nuclear attack) will galvanize most of the world to the other sides' cause, whatever it may be. It is an extremist act and is an instant lose.

[*bfine32*]

"we" cannot defeat IS. It can only be defeated from within. When the backwards fux of the region are defeated by the forward-thinking of the region, then IS and like-minded ideology will be snuffed out.

We need a presence in the region to show them what "right looks like".

[Nebuchadnezzar]

(12-26-2015, 07:12 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Linda might be able to destroy ISIS, but that's the only real shot at total defeat.

Linda must be one bad chick!
 
Just messing

Anyway, terrorism will never ever be defeated...ever. There will always be a group out there willing life and limb for their cause or ideology while murdering and destroying as many and much as possible.

Get used to it, it's only going to get worse.

[*bfine32*]

(12-27-2015, 01:54 AM)bfine32 Wrote: "we" cannot defeat IS. It can only be defeated from within. When the backwards fux of the region are defeated by the forward-thinking of the region, then IS and like-minded ideology will be snuffed out.

We need a presence in the region to show them what "right looks like".

This is the blueprint:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/iraqi-army-declares-ramadi-liberated-isil-134242829.html

Now take our boots out of Europe and put them in the Middle-East

[fredtoast]

(12-26-2015, 05:25 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Short of nuking Syria and Iraq and turning that whole area into a wasteland, is it even possible to defeat ISIS?

This would just make things worse.  There are muslim extremists everywhere and the rest of the world would turn against us for killing millions of innocents.

The middle east is a mess because they tie government to religion.  Until that changes there will be no peace.