Should Citizens be required to provide valid ID to vote in federal elections?

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 01:28 AM)pally Wrote: You keep changing the subject.  You want ID to vote

I asked you how you would implement this ID program.  Why won’t you answer?  What ID would qualify? How would it be obtained? How much would it cost? What proof of identity would be required to obtain this ID? How much time would be given to obtain this ID?

I neither agreed nor disagreed with the idea  I sought more information which you won’t provide

I provided a link up thread talking about how many Americans don’t have a current ID.  You obviously chose not to read it…as usual

I provided a link to get an ID. Did you read it and click on the link?

I saw millions have not registered to vote. There are a lot of reasons. The most logical is they have no interest in politics. They could be 60% right leaning Republicans or 60% left leaning Democrats, we have no idea of knowing going back to quite possibly they have no interest in politics and has nothing to do with how to do it. You are assuming millions of people do not register because either too much money or too hard. I showed you it is not hard. It is also not that expensive.

If people want to vote, the need a picture ID, just like they need to board an airplane. Why is photo ID required to board a plane? Simple, it is to verify who they are. Voting is no different, a photo ID and a person's signature should be required.

[*pally*]

(Yesterday, 02:46 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I provided a link to get an ID. Did you read it and click on the link?

I saw millions have not registered to vote. There are a lot of reasons. The most logical is they have no interest in politics. They could be 60% right leaning Republicans or 60% left leaning Democrats, we have no idea of knowing going back to quite possibly they have no interest in politics and has nothing to do with how to do it. You are assuming millions of people do not register because either too much money or too hard. I showed you it is not hard. It is also not that expensive.

If people want to vote, the need a picture ID, just like they need to board an airplane. Why is photo ID required to board a plane? Simple, it is to verify who they are. Voting is no different, a photo ID and a person's signature should be required.

And again you switch from actual voting to voting registration.  The topic of this thread,  which you started,  was voting.  I have been addressing VOTING not registration.

1) what is an acceptable form of ID? what type of photo ID?  keep in mind millions of people never have and never will fly

2) how much would it cost?
3) where would it be obtained?
4) how long would it take to implement?

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 08:24 AM)pally Wrote: And again you switch from actual voting to voting registration.  The topic of this thread,  which you started,  was voting.  I have been addressing VOTING not registration.

1) what is an acceptable form of ID? what type of photo ID?  keep in mind millions of people never have and never will fly

2) how much would it cost?
3) where would it be obtained?
4) how long would it take to implement?

Right, you have been addressing voting, but you're also the only one who keeps propping up flimsy excused for people not having a legal ID. The Poor? C'mon, most poor folks receive some sort of government benefits which require them to be positively identified as the correct recipient of said benefits. The elderly? There are many and numerous social outreach programs designated toward the elderly, if they are poor or have no family to look after them, that is likely a choice rather than a circumstance.

[*pally*]

(Yesterday, 12:50 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Right, you have been addressing voting, but you're also the only one who keeps propping up flimsy excused for people not having a legal ID. The Poor? C'mon, most poor folks receive some sort of government benefits which require them to be positively identified as the correct recipient of said benefits. The elderly? There are many and numerous social outreach programs designated toward the elderly, if they are poor or have no family to look after them, that is likely a choice rather than a circumstance.

There are 7 million adults who don't have valid photo IDS according to the University of Maryland study

[Mickeypoo]

(Yesterday, 03:21 PM)pally Wrote: There are 7 million adults who don't have valid photo IDS according to the University of Maryland study

Then they shouldn’t be able to vote. Oh well.

Too much worry about feelz and not enough doing what needs to be done for the overall good of society.

Are you seriously going to tell me if you had an assignment to design a secure election system that you would not include id/signature verification. Yeah, ok.

Life can be hard and not fair.

Should those same 7 million people be able to board a plane, buy a handgun, get a passport, etc, etc.


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[*pally*]

(Yesterday, 07:25 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Then they shouldn’t be able to vote.  Oh well.

Too much worry about feelz and not enough doing what needs to be done for the overall good of society.

Are you seriously going to tell me if you had an assignment to design a secure election system that you would not include id/signature verification.  Yeah, ok.

Life can be hard and not fair.

Should those same 7 million people be able to board a plane, buy a handgun, get a passport, etc, etc.


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I haven't stated my personal opinion one way or the other.  I asked questions about how an ID program would be implemented and for some reason not one of the vocal advocates for ID, including the thread starter, has been willing to answer them. The questions I asked aren't that difficult to answer.  A proposal without plans and actions behind them are just empty words.  Plans should address removing barriers to obtaining ID