Jeb Bush is part African-American

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-25-2015, 05:03 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Now, his statement about this was in response to your statement that black unemployment numbers are worse. This does refute what you said.

[fredtoast]

(08-25-2015, 06:03 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote:

Thanks for the graph proving that black unemployment rates have dropped dramatically since Obama took office.

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-25-2015, 06:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Thanks for the graph proving that black unemployment rates have dropped dramatically since Obama took office.

At a much lower rate than whites, hispanics, and the overall numbers. 

That was my initial point, was it not?  Not surprised you're not catching on.  Maybe a paralegal can explain it to you.

[fredtoast]

(08-25-2015, 06:30 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: At a much lower rate than whites, hispanics, and the overall numbers. 

That was my initial point, was it not?  

No.  This was your initial point

(08-23-2015, 03:33 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote:  After nearly two terms in office, black unemployment numbers are worse,

So you were wrong.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Have black unemployment numbers decreased since Jan '09 at the same rate as white, hispanic, and overall numbers have?

[fredtoast]

(08-25-2015, 06:58 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Have black unemployment numbers decreased since Jan '09 at the same rate as white, hispanic, and overall numbers have?

Does "better" mean "worse"?

Unemployment for blacks has dropped by 3.7 percentage points from Jan '09 to July '15. (13.4 to 9.7)

Unemployment for whites has dropped by 2.9 percentage points over the same period. (7.8 to 4.9)

So the unemployment numbers for blacks have improved more than for whites.

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-25-2015, 07:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Does "better" mean "worse"?

Unemployment for blacks has dropped by 3.7 percentage points from Jan '09 to July '15. (13.4 to 9.7)

Unemployment for whites has dropped by 2.9 percentage points over the same period. (7.8 to 4.9)

So the unemployment numbers for blacks have improved more than for whites.

I think you're leaving out a key metric here. 

[fredtoast]

(08-25-2015, 08:35 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: I think you're leaving out a key metric here. 

I think you are trying to deny what you originally said.

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-25-2015, 08:54 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I think you are trying to deny what you originally said.

No, I think I'll stick with my belief that you're leaving out a key metric in your statistical analysis. 

Let me know when you figure it out.  

[fredtoast]

(08-25-2015, 09:08 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: No, I think I'll stick with my belief that you're leaving out a key metric in your statistical analysis. 

Let me know when you figure it out.  

Jakes rules for debate.

1.  If you say something that is wrong claim that you did not really say it.

2.  Repeating opinions over and over again will turn them into facts.

3.  Accuse people of being stupid and/or wrong.

4.  Never say why they are stupid and/or wrong.  Instead tell them that they have to figure it our themselves.  

5.  Accuse people of not knowing what something means, but never ever say what you think it means.  Again tell them that they have to figure it out for themselves.

6.  Always include some form of "Comical", "Funny", or "I laughed" in every single post as proof of how right you are. 

7.  When faced with a fact or argument that you can not dispute then just ignore it and change the subject.

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-25-2015, 07:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Does "better" mean "worse"?

Unemployment for blacks has dropped by 3.7 percentage points from Jan '09 to July '15. (13.4 to 9.7)

Unemployment for whites has dropped by 2.9 percentage points over the same period. (7.8 to 4.9)

So the unemployment numbers for blacks have improved more than for whites.

Roughly 39,000,000 blacks.  3.7 percent is 1,443,000 jobs.

Roughly 195,000,000 whites.  2.9 percent is 5,665,000 jobs. 

Great statistical analysis.  

[Belsnickel]

(08-25-2015, 09:41 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Roughly 39,000,000 blacks.  3.7 percent is 1,443,000 jobs.

Roughly 195,000,000 whites.  2.9 percent is 5,665,000 jobs. 

Great statistical analysis.  

Actually, the percentages are more important in this comparison than the numbers like that. Because of the large difference in the population counts using the count is unfairly weighted to your argument where the percentages are more unbiased.

A better refutation of his point would be that the drop of 3.7 percentage points was a roughly 27% drop while the 2.9 points was around a 37% drop.

[jakefromstatefarm]

(08-25-2015, 09:54 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Actually, the percentages are more important in this comparison than the numbers like that. Because of the large difference in the population counts using the count is unfairly weighted to your argument where the percentages are more unbiased.

A better refutation of his point would be that the drop of 3.7 percentage points was a roughly 27% drop while the 2.9 points was around a 37% drop.

Fair enough.