Joe Biden lies exposed.Karine Jean-Pierre last week lies again also.

[Luvnit2]

Joe Biden said hundreds of times he never discussed business with his son. He also said on the debate stage no family member made money with China.

His press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre lied over and over again in press briefings with reporters, as recently as last week. So, after Archer testimony, after whistle blowers sworn testimony and as fact like the 1023 form accusing Joe Biden of bribery, will she finally fess up or continue lying to reporters and the american people.

Why did Joe Biden get put on speaker phone over 20 times to close the deal and the Biden brand?

Who in their right mind after all of this evidence and Joe Biden and his people caught in lie after lie can ignore the Biden family got rich for political favors?

Please feel free to tell the forum Biden if a great family man (only accepted 7th grandchild after being pressured to do so) and a man of honor who just happens to have a son who got rich off of China, Ukraine and my guess many other countries. A family who has many off shore accounts and over 20 LLC's used to launder money n most cases. A legit business does not need money flowing into off shore accounts, unless they are hiding something criminal. It could be as simple as income tax revenue or as complex as bribes from foreign countries.

Serious question. Who still believes Joe Biden was never involved with Hunter's business dealings with foreign countries?

This has nothing to do with Donal Trump. This is all on the Biden family.

[Luvnit2]

Archer also testified the Burisma CEO pressured HB in 2015 to get help getting rid of Ukraine prosecutor who was going after Burisma. Biden is on record he threatened and got this same prosecutor fired. HB contacted Obama administration to get the prosecutor followed. Archer provided the link to Shokin being fired and the real reason an American VP got involved.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/devon-archer-hunter-biden-burisma-execs-ukrainian-prosecutor-fired

Devon Archer testified Monday that Hunter Biden and top executives of Burisma Holdings "called D.C." in 2015 to ask the Obama administration to help fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the firm, a source familiar with his testimony told Fox News Digital.

Sadly, this means Obama and others were involved as well. A story line was created that the US and other countries thought the prosector was corrupt and the reason why Joe threatened to withhold 1 billion dollars from Ukraine unless Shokin was fired.

Now, we have direct testimony Joe Biden got involved on behalf of the Burisma CEO. How many times has a US VP threatened to withhold a billion dollars unless a prosecutor was fired? One time in our history and our VP black mailed the leader of Ukraine plain and simple.

[Luvnit2]

BIDEN KNEW EXACTLY WHO HIS SON WAS GETTING MILLIONS FROM: HOUSE OVERSIGHT CHAIRMAN JAMES COMER

PAT FALLON: It's absolutely absurd. Viktor Shokin was the prosecutor-general in Ukraine who Joe Biden got fired, withholding $1 billion dollars worth of aid. He [Shokin] was going after [Burisma owner Mykola] Zlochevsky, he had seized four of his homes, two plots of land and a Rolls-Royce. And a month later, he was fired and then that billion dollars was released. So, I think that is absolutely a smoking gun. And so many folks now can read the 1023, the FBI form where Zlochevsky told the confidential informant, who's very reliable, according the FBI, that he gave Hunter $5 million and Joe $5 million. He had phone calls directly with Joe Biden and it would be OK because he was going to get the prosecutor off their back. He did. … To this day, Burisma was never investigated again, so the Bidens delivered. … [Joe Biden] should have been nowhere near that. Instead, he was right in the thick of it.


An informant confirmed the Biden's were paid 10 million by Burisma

[Luvnit2]

Wow, even far left WAPO admits Joe is a liar.
Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler slapped President Biden with "Four Pinocchios" over his false claim that his son Hunter never made money from China.

Kessler began Tuesday's fact-check of the president by revisiting comments he made in both presidential debates in 2020 when he repeatedly denied claims that Hunter did business with China.

"But now, nearly three years later, Biden’s assertions have been directly rebutted by Hunter himself," Kessler wrote. "In court testimony last week, the younger Biden acknowledged that he in fact had been paid substantial sums in China — the first official confirmation that this was the case."

[basballguy]

(08-02-2023, 10:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Wow, even far left WAPO admits Joe is a liar.
Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler slapped President Biden with "Four Pinocchios" over his false claim that his son Hunter never made money from China.

Kessler began Tuesday's fact-check of the president by revisiting comments he made in both presidential debates in 2020 when he repeatedly denied claims that Hunter did business with China.

"But now, nearly three years later, Biden’s assertions have been directly rebutted by Hunter himself," Kessler wrote. "In court testimony last week, the younger Biden acknowledged that he in fact had been paid substantial sums in China — the first official confirmation that this was the case."

It’s frustrating how it seems like once a week now there’s an article that’s saying something like “well shit they were right after all”.

[BengalYankee]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jake-tapper-backpedals-on-hunter-biden-as-cnn-makes-embarrassing-trump-was-right-biden-was-wrong-confession/ar-AA1fwMEV?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f29247a7c2d45b29d9244665191e79f&ei=8

[basballguy]

(08-02-2023, 10:18 PM)basballguy Wrote: It’s frustrating how it seems like once a week now there’s an article that’s saying something like “well shit they were right after all”.

(08-21-2023, 02:11 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jake-tapper-backpedals-on-hunter-biden-as-cnn-makes-embarrassing-trump-was-right-biden-was-wrong-confession/ar-AA1fwMEV?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f29247a7c2d45b29d9244665191e79f&ei=8

Sigh.....

[HarleyDog]

Joe will play the dementia card.

[Dill]

(08-02-2023, 10:18 PM)basballguy Wrote: It’s frustrating how it seems like once a week now there’s an article that’s saying something like “well shit they were right after all”.

Perhaps I have not followed this closely enough. 

It looks like Biden was wrong to say his son made no money from China. 

Did he know that during the presidential debate, though? 

[Dill]

(08-01-2023, 09:51 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: An informant confirmed the Biden's were paid 10 million by Burisma

An "informant" told Trump that Obama was born in Kenya and that the Georgia election was rigged.

But tell us more about this one.  I believe I asked this a couple of weeks ago, but

Where is he now, and where is the evidence of payment?

[Luvnit2]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-fact-checker-busts-several-bidens-go-personal-stories-tradition-embellishing

Joe Biden continues to embellish (lie) his stories is called out by the Washington Post. He says he has damaged the public's trust. AS I have stated, iSee no way he is the nominee due to his age and all of his lies that will be placed in Ads during the campaign. Sleepy Joe Biden has proven Trump correct again, many examples of him napping during important events or meetings, the most recent in Maui.
The Washington Post’s chief fact-checker Glenn Kessler took exception to several stories President Biden has repeatedly told about his life to connect with audiences in a piece Thursday.

Kessler went through several recurring anecdotes that Biden has shared with crowds over the years and detailed how many of them were embellished or just plain not true. He declared, "But throughout his career… Biden’s propensity to exaggerate or embellish tales about his life led to doubts about his truthfulness."

Kessler analyzed Biden’s recent recounting of a past fire at his house almost destroying his Corvette, anecdotes about being him arrested for standing up during the civil rights era, and a story about the circumstances that led him to be accepting of same-sex relationships.

Kessler stated that each of these folksy stories from Biden are part of his "tradition of embellishing his personal tales in ways that cannot be verified or are directly refuted by contemporary accounts."

WASHINGTON POST SLAPS BIDEN WITH 'FOUR PINOCCHIOS' FOR FALSELY CLAIMING HUNTER NEVER MADE MONEY FROM CHINA

The fact-checker began with Biden’s most recent exaggerated story. He wrote, "At least six times as president, mostly recently in comments to Hurricane Idalia victims Wednesday, Biden has exaggerated the extent of a fire that occurred at his house in 2004."

In those retellings, Kessler noted how Biden, then a U.S. senator from Delaware, had claimed "a couple firefighters" almost died, how his 1967 Corvette was nearly destroyed, and that a "significant portion" of his house burned.

The fact-checker corrected the record, saying, "The contemporary news accounts in the Wilmington News Journal and The Associated Press are much less dramatic."

Citing the outlets, he added, "’Biden’s house on Barley Mill Road was reported hit by lightning at 8:16 a.m., emergency officials said,’ the News Journal reported. ‘There were no injuries and firefighters kept the fire contained to one room.’

"Cranston Heights Fire Co. Chief George Lamborn told the newspaper the flames did not spread from the kitchen. ‘Luckily, we got it pretty early. The fire was under control in 20 minutes.’"

Kessler then mentioned Biden’s oft-used anecdote about his conversation with an Amtrak conductor. He wrote, "At least 10 times as president, most recently during an Aug. 15 speech in Milwaukee, Biden has told a heartwarming but implausible story about an Amtrak conductor named Angelo Negri who congratulated him for traveling more on Amtrak than he had on Air Force planes as vice president."

As Biden has told the story, Negri congratulated the then-vice president for traveling 2 million miles on Amtrak trains, almost double the amount he has traveled on Air Force One.

Kessler corrected this, saying, "But it’s not possible this conversation took place as Biden describes… Biden did not pass the 1.2 million-mile mark until 2016; Negri retired from Amtrak in 1993, 16 years before Biden became vice president. Negri died in 2014, two years before Biden claims they had this conversation."

The fact-checker also poked holes in one of Biden’s go-to gay rights stories. Kessler stated, "Three times this year — and at least seven times since 2014 — Biden has told a version, most recently on Aug. 10, of a story about words his father supposedly spoke after a teenage Biden saw two well-dressed men in suits kiss each other in downtown Wilmington in the early 1960s."

However, the author noted, "Biden depicts a scene that would have been unusual six decades ago. He describes this exchange with his father usually as taking place in 1961. But back then, gay men generally did not kiss in public. Many people regarded homosexuality as deviant."

"Moreover," Kessler added, "Biden’s story has evolved over time. In 2014, in a New York Times article on his evolution on same-sex marriage, he was the father in the story, speaking to one of his sons."


The journalist threw cold water on Biden’s civil rights stories as well. He reported, "Biden had a tangential role in the civil rights movement — The Fact Checker determined that he participated in one walkout at a restaurant and picketed a segregated movie theater — and yet sometimes he has suggested he was arrested for advocating on behalf of Black people."

[Dill]

(08-31-2023, 05:40 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-fact-checker-busts-several-bidens-go-personal-stories-tradition-embellishing

The journalist threw cold water on Biden’s civil rights stories as well. He reported, "Biden had a tangential role in the civil rights movement — The Fact Checker determined that he participated in one walkout at a restaurant and picketed a segregated movie theater — and yet sometimes he has suggested he was arrested for advocating on behalf of Black people."

LOL howz that stack up against Trump's record on civil rights?

Seems to me, Luvnit, that you are setting up "lies" as a firm bar against anyone holding the office of president--except Trump.

[basballguy]

(08-02-2023, 10:18 PM)basballguy Wrote: It’s frustrating how it seems like once a week now there’s an article that’s saying something like “well shit they were right after all”.

Another week and another story reflecting what we were saying all along

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/08/politics/biden-administration-social-media-lawsuit/index.html

This is getting so ridiculous it should just be it's own thread to track all these stories

[LSUfaninTN]

(08-21-2023, 02:29 PM)Dill Wrote: An "informant" told Trump that Obama was born in Kenya and that the Georgia election was rigged.

But tell us more about this one.  I believe I asked this a couple of weeks ago, but

Where is he now, and where is the evidence of payment?

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf

Ctrl +F “Burisma”

Biden is corrupt as shit. The whole family. If even ONE sentence of the 224 mentions of “Burisma” in that document were true about Trump, he’d be impeached. 

[Dill]

(09-09-2023, 08:37 PM)LSUfaninTN Wrote: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf

Ctrl +F “Burisma”

Biden is corrupt as shit. The whole family. If even ONE sentence of the 224 mentions of “Burisma” in that document were true about Trump, he’d be impeached. 

Did you notice this sentence from the conclusion the HSGAC? It makes a point I have explained to Luvnit 4-5 times now. How does the bolded square with the "Biden protected his son by firing Shokin" claim? 

Several witnesses highlighted efforts to enable a successful investigation of Zlochevsky, and also noted that the U.S. decision to condition a $1 billion loan guarantee was made in part because of the then-Ukrainian prosecutor general’s failure to pursue a case against Zlochevsky. But at the end of the day, between 2014 through 2017, despite the concerted effort of many U.S. officials, not one of the three different Ukrainian prosecutor generals held Zlochevsky accountable.

Trump was impeached for attempting to corrupt the Ukrainian leader, but the GOP excused him. We had the evidence of Trump's own phone call. Biden urges Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor, and you're sure HE'S the one who should be impeached. 

In fact it was this nugget from page 12 that brought Trump's first impeachment to mind--can people really be so oblivious to the irony?

In certain instances, like self-dealing, the harm is plain. In others, the harm — a loss or apparent loss of impartiality — may be less concrete, but the effect is still the same.24 When the impartiality of decision makers is drawn into question, it creates a chilling effect on the credibility of their decision-making processing and the ultimate decision. That, in turn, could undermine the effectiveness of U.S. policy. Although these consequences may sometimes be difficult to measure or quantify, they certainly have an effect, or else there would be little reason to regulate them in the first instance. In the context of foreign affairs, because these subtleties matter, the FAM provides the Chief of Mission with the discretion to make these assessments

[Mike M (the other one)]

(08-21-2023, 02:26 PM)Dill Wrote: Perhaps I have not followed this closely enough. 

It looks like Biden was wrong to say his son made no money from China. 

Did he know that during the presidential debate, though? 

Considering it was reported in the News in 2018, i'd have to say yea he knew. 

And usually business dealings followed on the heels of Biden's personal trips to high ranking officials from other countries. Why else would you bring your kid along if he's not interested in having his own political career? I mean he certainly wasn't coming along for the ride to visit the Wall.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(09-09-2023, 06:38 PM)basballguy Wrote: Another week and another story reflecting what we were saying all along

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/08/politics/biden-administration-social-media-lawsuit/index.html

This is getting so ridiculous it should just be it's own thread to track all these stories

They going after our 1st Amendment Rights!! 

[Mike M (the other one)]

(09-09-2023, 11:20 PM)Dill Wrote: Did you notice this sentence from the conclusion the HSGAC? It makes a point I have explained to Luvnit 4-5 times now. How does the bolded square with the "Biden protected his son by firing Shokin" claim? 

Several witnesses highlighted efforts to enable a successful investigation of Zlochevsky, and also noted that the U.S. decision to condition a $1 billion loan guarantee was made in part because of the then-Ukrainian prosecutor general’s failure to pursue a case against Zlochevsky. But at the end of the day, between 2014 through 2017, despite the concerted effort of many U.S. officials, not one of the three different Ukrainian prosecutor generals held Zlochevsky accountable.

Trump was impeached for attempting to corrupt the Ukrainian leader, but the GOP excused him. We had the evidence of Trump's own phone call. Biden urges Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor, and you're sure HE'S the one who should be impeached. 

In fact it was this nugget from page 12 that brought Trump's first impeachment to mind--can people really be so oblivious to the irony?

In certain instances, like self-dealing, the harm is plain. In others, the harm — a loss or apparent loss of impartiality — may be less concrete, but the effect is still the same.24 When the impartiality of decision makers is drawn into question, it creates a chilling effect on the credibility of their decision-making processing and the ultimate decision. That, in turn, could undermine the effectiveness of U.S. policy. Although these consequences may sometimes be difficult to measure or quantify, they certainly have an effect, or else there would be little reason to regulate them in the first instance. In the context of foreign affairs, because these subtleties matter, the FAM provides the Chief of Mission with the discretion to make these assessments

It's politics as usual, but if it had been handled correctly to begin with... Trump wouldn't have inquired in the first place?  Yes/No?

[Dill]

(09-10-2023, 12:34 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: It's politics as usual, but if it had been handled correctly to begin with... Trump wouldn't have inquired in the first place?  Yes/No?

?? If what had been handled correctly, by whom? Trump's ask was not an "inquiry."

[Dill]

(09-10-2023, 12:03 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Considering it was reported in the News in 2018, i'd have to say yea he knew. 

And usually business dealings followed on the heels of Biden's personal trips to high ranking officials from other countries. Why else would you bring your kid along if he's not interested in having his own political career? I mean he certainly wasn't coming along for the ride to visit the Wall.

I haven't seen any evidence that HB was interested in his own political career. 

And as I understand it, VPs often take their families on foreign trips. E.g., Joe often took his grandchildren with him on
"business" trips abroad as VP. 

But what, exactly, was in the news? It looks like HB was on the board of or an investor in a Chinese equity company, and he
jointed while Biden was out of office and before he had decided to run for office.
In the debate, Biden is responding to the accusation that Hunter got 1.5 billion from China. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-trip-china-son-hunter-2013-comes-under-new-n1061051
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-china-laptop/