Musk says Biden can fix border with stroke of a pen

[GMDino]

(01-28-2024, 02:13 PM)Millhouse Wrote: I wish we had the "Deporter in Chief" back.

Obama?

[Millhouse]

(01-28-2024, 02:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: Obama?

Yup

[masonbengals fan]

Sad that it had to even get to this point.

I don't believe any of us posting here can't sympathize with people trying to improve their own situation. We all have hearts.

[masonbengals fan]

(01-28-2024, 02:18 PM)pally Wrote:  That's the problem with ruling by executive order "rules" can be changed by the stroke of a pen. 

So why don't you hold the guy responsible who used that pen to get us in the current situation instead of blaming others for pointing it out. 

[*pally*]

(01-28-2024, 02:42 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: So why don't you hold the guy responsible who used that pen to get us in the current situation instead of blaming others for pointing it out. 

Because the "stay in Mexico" policy wasn't solving the problem and was causing other major problems along the border including sanitation and crime issues that were spilling over.  This is a problem caused by Congressional inaction, not by Presidential actions and I would say that regardless of the President.  I may not like the actions individual Presidents have chosen but that is all Congress has left them. They have to put into legislation laws that actually give the Executive branch the tools and money to address the border and undocumented workers

Immigration and the border problems right now are the culmination of decades of Congressional inactivity.  Failure to modernize the laws and update them to reflect the current situation has resulted in a series of Executive Orders most of which faced court challenges and haven't solved the problem.  The only thing that has slowed down the border issues has been a pandemic.

Congress keeps punting the problem down the road and the road has finally hit a dead end. It is time for them to do some heavy lifting and actually pass legislation

[Belsnickel]

(01-28-2024, 01:57 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: Remain in Mexico would be a start. 

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4420526-biden-is-begging-for-mexicos-help-with-the-border-and-with-his-re-election/

You mean the policy that is still active?

As for the opinion piece linked, I really don't care. It is partisan opinion, nothing more. 

(01-28-2024, 02:19 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I believe the point is, why does Biden need congress to do something about it? Immigration is a national security issue and not something that should be negotiated in order to do the right thing. The Biden administration has ignored the situation.

In what way has the Biden administration ignored the situation? They are enforcing the current law. Congress appropriates the funds to provide the resources, which is something that hasn't happened. The executive branch's role is to enforce the laws passed by Congress with the money appropriated by Congress. 

The executive branch is not supposed to have unilateral power to do these things. That's not how our system is set up. 

(01-28-2024, 02:42 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: So why don't you hold the guy responsible who used that pen to get us in the current situation instead of blaming others for pointing it out. 

Who used their pen to get us in the current situation? 

[*Nately120*]

(01-28-2024, 02:31 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: Sad that it had to even get to this point.

I don't believe any of us posting here can't sympathize with people trying to improve their own situation. We all have hearts.

People do have hearts, which is why it's important to frame refugees as dangerous criminals when pushing for severe policies.   

[masonbengals fan]

(01-28-2024, 04:01 PM)Nately120 Wrote: People do have hearts, which is why it's important to frame refugees as dangerous criminals when pushing for severe policies.   

So, you & I agree we need a good vetting process.

[*Nately120*]

(01-28-2024, 04:19 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: So, you & I agree we need a good vetting process.

Yes, but we have to want a good vetting process. As others have pointed out this is a decades-long issue, but at the same time we have one of the 2 political parties we are so generously given to choose from that is outright admitting that IF they make things as bad a possible at the border THEN we will respond by giving them more power and it looks like we're on board with that.

Maybe I'm wrong, I just feel like we're going to watch democrats lie down and/or be unable to do anything even if they wanted to while the GOP intentionally makes things as bad as possible so we will vote them back into power and they can simply declare "mission accomplished" on the border and the economy and then spend all their time funneling as much wealth into the upper echelons of society as possible.

A year from now the view on the border will be "it's fine, a republican is in the white house" and the view on the economy will be "sell your iphone and stop wasting your money on crap you don't need."
 

[*pally*]

OK GOP censures Sen Lankford, a tried and true conservative. His crime...working with Democrats on a border deal. And we wonder why nothing gets accomplished

https://twitter.com/DustyDeevers/status/1751370101410902410



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Resolution Condemning &amp; Censoring Senator Lankford’s Open Border Deal” as approved by the OKGOP State Committee members on January 27, 2024. <a href="https://t.co/peVqHAfIpt">pic.twitter.com/peVqHAfIpt</a></p>&mdash; Dusty Deevers (@DustyDeevers) <a href="https://twitter.com/DustyDeevers/status/1751370101410902410?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote>

[NATI BENGALS]

(01-28-2024, 11:18 PM)pally Wrote: OK GOP censures Sen Lankford, a tried and true conservative.  His crime...working with Democrats on a border deal.  And we wonder why nothing gets accomplished

https://twitter.com/DustyDeevers/status/1751370101410902410



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Resolution Condemning &amp; Censoring Senator Lankford’s Open Border Deal” as approved by the OKGOP State Committee members on January 27, 2024. <a href="https://t.co/peVqHAfIpt">pic.twitter.com/peVqHAfIpt</a></p>&mdash; Dusty Deevers (@DustyDeevers) <a href="https://twitter.com/DustyDeevers/status/1751370101410902410?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote>

Wow. wow wow

They don't even know what the text of the bill is.

[*Nately120*]

(01-28-2024, 11:45 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Wow. wow wow

They don't even know what the text of the bill is.

That's where we are at the moment, the worse things are, the better the GOP will do even if it is their fault.  The GOP is throwing acid in our proverbial face so no one else wants us and we're stuck with them.

[Belsnickel]

(01-28-2024, 11:18 PM)pally Wrote: OK GOP censures Sen Lankford, a tried and true conservative. His crime...working with Democrats on a border deal. And we wonder why nothing gets accomplished

https://twitter.com/DustyDeevers/status/1751370101410902410

Grumble grumble, both sides, grumble grumble.

[GMDino]

(01-28-2024, 11:18 PM)pally Wrote: OK GOP censures Sen Lankford, a tried and true conservative.  His crime...working with Democrats on a border deal.  And we wonder why nothing gets accomplished

https://twitter.com/DustyDeevers/status/1751370101410902410



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Resolution Condemning &amp; Censoring Senator Lankford’s Open Border Deal” as approved by the OKGOP State Committee members on January 27, 2024. <a href="https://t.co/peVqHAfIpt">pic.twitter.com/peVqHAfIpt</a></p>&mdash; Dusty Deevers (@DustyDeevers) <a href="https://twitter.com/DustyDeevers/status/1751370101410902410?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote>

Damn liberals and leftists!  It's THEIR fault this happened!

[BigPapaKain]

I wonder if Democrats are blaming Republicans because it's the Republicans fault?

Oh would you look at that - every bill passed by the Senate to address fixing the border has been torpedoed by House Republicans.

***** wild.

[*Nately120*]

(01-29-2024, 09:05 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Grumble grumble, both sides, grumble grumble.

Bonus points since this guy is only satiated when you give him red meat.