05-20-2015, 02:59 PM
http://www.c-span.org/video/?326084-1/us-senate-debate-trade-promotion-authority&live=
In case anyone is interested
In case anyone is interested
NSA filibuster on now
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05-20-2015, 02:59 PM
http://www.c-span.org/video/?326084-1/us-senate-debate-trade-promotion-authority&live=
In case anyone is interested
05-20-2015, 05:18 PM
“There comes to a time in the history of nations when fear and complacency allow power to accumulate and liberty and privacy to suffer,” Paul said. “That time is now. And I will not let the Patriot Act, the most un-patriotic of acts, go unchallenged.”
05-20-2015, 07:56 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/20/tea-party-group-teams-with-aclu-naacp-on-patriot-act/
Quote:Growing concerns about the Patriot Act’s renewal are creating strange bedfellows. The Tea Party Patriots and the ACLU are running TV ads urging Americans to “tell Congress [to] protect our privacy.” On top of that, the executive director of Iowa’s ACLU and Tea Party Patriots’ boss Jenny Beth Martin have coauthored an op-ed in the Des Moines Register on “the need for significant reforms to curtail government surveillance authorities, like some of those included in the Patriot Act.”
05-20-2015, 08:44 PM
I see and hear about these things, and I just have to wonder, who is actually listening to him? Not like around the country or anything, but like there at the place? Does an official person actually have to physically sit there and listen to him rant on and on? All I see are a bunch of empty chairs. And poor stenographer (are they still called that?)
Maybe I'm in the minority, but filibusters seem to be a physical representation of just how pathetic and ineffective our legislative branch is.
05-20-2015, 10:01 PM
(05-20-2015, 08:44 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: I see and hear about these things, and I just have to wonder, who is actually listening to him? Not like around the country or anything, but like there at the place? Does an official person actually have to physically sit there and listen to him rant on and on? All I see are a bunch of empty chairs. And poor stenographer (are they still called that?) Maybe.... But even I didn't know the executive branch can go get someone's records without a warrant. They also are arresting people for domestic offenses that are not terrorist related crimes. That's an over reach... No probable cause ... They can just grab everythkng then research back fkr a crime. They will be able put chargers on anyone who gets in the governemnts way.
05-21-2015, 01:10 AM
The idiots guide to the NSA.
05-21-2015, 07:55 AM
Are Democrats supporting Paul they way the supported Obama for campaigning on the against Patriot Act or are they bashing him for filibustering a bill Obama supports?
05-21-2015, 09:35 AM
(05-20-2015, 08:44 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: I see and hear about these things, and I just have to wonder, who is actually listening to him? Not like around the country or anything, but like there at the place? Does an official person actually have to physically sit there and listen to him rant on and on? All I see are a bunch of empty chairs. And poor stenographer (are they still called that?) I don't know the exact rules or terminology, but I believe a certain number of people who are on the opposite side must be in the chamber or the person filibustering can call for a quorum, and if there aren't enough Senators to make up the quorum, then he can stop until there are enough people or something like that.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
05-21-2015, 09:37 AM
I kept noticing on the tweets from CSPAN that it was not a true filibuster. I hate Senate rules, too confusing.
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05-21-2015, 09:41 AM
(05-21-2015, 09:37 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I kept noticing on the tweets from CSPAN that it was not a true filibuster. I hate Senate rules, too confusing. The rules are weird.... But evidently it delayed the amendment process and has thrown off the schedule. According to WaPo http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/yes-sen-rand-pauls-latest-filibuster-is-a-filibuster/2015/05/20/45c18d36-ff40-11e4-8b6c-0dcce21e223d_story.html
05-21-2015, 11:47 AM
(05-21-2015, 09:41 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The rules are weird.... But evidently it delayed the amendment process and has thrown off the schedule. According to WaPo That was before he finished. And he didn't talk long enough for it to count as a filibuster. http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/politics/rand-paul-filibuster-patriot-act-nsa-surveillance/ Quote:Paul's talk-a-thon Wednesday came more than two years after his nearly 13-hour filibuster in 2013, which was widely anticipated and brought him national attention for delaying the confirmation of CIA chief John Brennan to draw attention to U.S. drone policies. A couple other places said there was no guarantee they were going to vote on it anyway yesterday...but it makes for a nice, long phot op. Get his name in the news while they are all on vacation starting today. Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
05-21-2015, 03:55 PM
(05-21-2015, 09:37 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I kept noticing on the tweets from CSPAN that it was not a true filibuster. I hate Senate rules, too confusing. Yea, not a real filibuster. Just a chance to make a really long campaign speech (on an important topic).
05-21-2015, 04:16 PM
(05-21-2015, 03:55 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Yea, not a real filibuster. Just a chance to make a really long campaign speech (on an important topic). Yep. Something a lot on both sides agree about. Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
05-21-2015, 09:16 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2015/05/20/10-great-points-in-rand-pauls-patriot-ac
10 points made by Rand. And it Looks like there is a good shot at getting amendments for a vote as well. Quote:I don't know whether Rand Paul's ongoing Senate talkfest will succeed in running out the clock on the Patriot Act, or (as he is seeking) opening up a debate and amendment process, but I do know that—just like his 2013 exercise—these have been some of the most invigorating hours on C-SPAN in recent memory. |
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