Video Looks Like Election Fraud In Georgia......

[BmorePat87]

(12-08-2020, 05:31 PM)Nately120 Wrote: It depends on how they respond to this stuff once Trump is actually out of office and there is no more hope that he can reverse the 2020 election before it's too late.  I'm not sure you can run on "our democracy is rigged" since the GA runoff has already indicated people who buy into the rigging of the national election are starting to wonder why they should bother voting.  Convincing people elections are rigged and repeating it for 4 years might burn some people out, or just convince them that they shouldn't vote in a rigged election.

With that being said, regardless of what republican politicians and pundits say they have to realize that Trump lost the 2020 election.  Would a political party that is desperate to get back into power hang their hat on Trump in 2024?  Academically, we see that Trump had narrow victories in 2016 that flipped normally blue states and then Biden just held serve on them like any post-Reagan democrat would.  A narrow victory in 2016 doesn't make for a great candidate in 2014, does it?

No, but he just needs a plurality in 2024 to get the nomination again. The GOP will have to have a serious conversation about who is running in 2024 if they want to ensure that a large field doesn't allow that to happen again. 

[CJD]

(12-08-2020, 06:04 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You can never rule out the "Trump effect" but in theory shouldn't democrats welcome the prospect of a 2024 candidate who:

1. lost the popular vote in 2016
2. lost the popular vote and electoral college in 2020
3. never had an approval rating above 49
4. will be 78 or so at the time of the election
5. will have spent a decade complaining that our democracy is rigged

While I understand your point, I think the extreme nature of Trump really does scare people. Hell, we nominated ***** Joe Biden because we were so afraid of Trump winning again. If he ran again in 2024, that just means we'd likely nominate a milquetoast nothing candidate rather than a progressive that could actually cause some positive change. 

Ultimately, Trump in 2024 would keep us in the limbo we've been in for what feels like decades at this point.