Obama Shouts Over Crowd To Defend Trump Supporter At Rally

[GMDino]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-defends-trump-supporter-video_us_581cebe0e4b0d9ce6fbc0910?section=politics

Quote:President Barack Obama defended a Donald Trump supporter Friday when the crowd at North Carolina rally began yelling after the man stood up with a pro-Trump sign.
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Obama just lost control of the crowd in North Carolina which was shouting down a Trump supporter; Obama defended the guy's right to protest
3:40 PM - 4 Nov 2016

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The disruption at the campaign event for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton began when a man in military attire stood up with the sign supporting the Republican presidential nominee. He was escorted from the venue shortly after.  

People began shouting as Obama repeatedly told the crowd to “hold up.”


“Everybody sit down and be quiet for a second,” Obama said.


“You’ve got an older gentleman who’s supporting his candidate,” he added. “He’s not doing nothing. You don’t have to worry about him.”

CREDIT: JONATHAN ERNST/REUTERS

A Donald Trump supporter disrupted remarks by President Barack Obama at a rally Friday for Hillary Clinton in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Obama responded perfectly.

Obama told the crowd that it appears the man was a veteran, and they should respect his service.



“We live in a country that respects free speech,” he said. “Don’t boo, vote.”

[SunsetBengal]

Because imagine how ugly it would have looked if an American veteran was assaulted at a Clinton rally, where the POTUS was speaking on her behalf, instead of being at his post defending the Americans from the potential terrorist attack scheduled for Monday...

[Belsnickel]

(11-04-2016, 08:28 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Because imagine how ugly it would have looked if an American veteran was assaulted at a Clinton rally, where the POTUS was speaking on her behalf, instead of being at his post defending the Americans from the potential terrorist attack scheduled for Monday...

His post travels with him. The POTUS is never far from somewhere with secure communications for situations like that.

[SunsetBengal]

(11-04-2016, 08:33 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: His post travels with him. The POTUS is never far from somewhere with secure communications for situations like that.

Be that as it may, I'd still prefer the POTUS being at his post, ready to meet with his team of advisors, in a potential time of crisis.  I'll not buy any argument that says that he already has things under control, as he has run off more Generals than have possibly had time to gain the experience to replace them.

[*bfine32*]

I do appreciate the gesture by POTUS. I will say the crowd was somewhat disrespectful of him though. It took the most powerful man in the world about 2 minutes to get the crows quiet enough so he could speak. I think he found out how hard it is to get open-minded folks to put out the torches once they get lit.

[CageTheBengal]

That was a nice change of pace from shouting "Get em outta here!" and telling the crowd to take their coat while offering to pay any legal fees you obtain from roughing them up.

[GMDino]

Here's a surprise...Trump lied about what happened.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-gave-startlingly-different-023234241.html

Quote:Donald Trump, during a campaign rally in Hershey, Pennsylvania, on Friday night, gave a startlingly different account of how President Barack Obama handled a protester earlier in the day.

Obama was in Fayetteville, North Carolina, rallying voters for Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton. At one point, a protester held up a Trump sign from among the crowd, and the crowd lost it, yelling and booing at the man.

The incident generated headlines not because of what the protester did, but because of how Obama reined in the crowd:

Quote:"First of all, we live in a country that respects free speech, second of all it looks like he may have served in our military, and we've got to respect that. Third of all, he was elderly, and we've got to respect our elders."

Here's how Trump framed the incident to his own audience hours later:

Quote:"He was talking to the protester, screaming at him, really screaming at him. By the way, if I spoke the way Obama spoke to that protester, they would say, 'He became unhinged!' ... And he spent so much time screaming at this protester and frankly, it was a disgrace."

During Obama's event in North Carolina, he struggled to refocus the crowd, but ultimately implored them with a familiar call to action: "Don't boo, vote."

The Clinton campaign has deployed the president to Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, and Pennsylvania — key battleground states for the Democratic presidential nominee — hoping Obama's high popularity would boost voter turnout.

[Dill]

(11-04-2016, 09:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I do appreciate the gesture by POTUS. I will say the crowd was somewhat disrespectful of him though. It took the most powerful man in the world about 2 minutes to get the crows quiet enough so he could speak. I think he found out how hard it is to get open-minded folks to put out the torches once they get lit.

Someone remind me, I forget.

How do Trump and his crowds handle protestors.

[Dill]

(11-04-2016, 08:46 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Be that as it may, I'd still prefer the POTUS being at his post, ready to meet with his team of advisors, in a potential time of crisis.  I'll not buy any argument that says that he already has things under control, as he has run off more Generals than have possibly had time to gain the experience to replace them.

Sunset, the President "at his post" is not like one guy standing gate guard on a FOB in Afghanistan, so if he takes a few hours off to go back play and video games in his tent, he is leaving the base open to surprise attack.  

The POTUS is more like a Command Sergeant Major who has to make the rounds of all the COPs and FOBs in his sector, as well as all the gates and wire on his main base.   No one thinks the CSM has "abandoned his post" if he is not in his office, and no one thinks he would necessarily manage an attack better from his office. In fact, a CSM who spent all his time in his office ready for an attack with "his team" would be very worrisome.

Presidents do have to travel too, but the job is so much bigger, covers more ground, has more dimensions; they are responsible for the economy and education and agriculture as well as the military and border security. 

In this case, even if he is not on official state business,  I can see why Obama might think that preventing a Trump presidency was an urgent matter for US security.  Most generals would agree.

[BigPapaKain]

(11-05-2016, 03:35 PM)Dill Wrote: Someone remind me, I forget.

How do Trump and his crowds handle protestors.

Short answer: not like the POTUS does.

[*bfine32*]

(11-05-2016, 03:35 PM)Dill Wrote: Someone remind me, I forget.

How do Trump and his crowds handle protestors.

Doubt you forgot, but they handle them in quite a bit more abrasive fashion.

Does that change the point I made about the OP?

[HarleyDog]

Obama took the high road and I respect his demeanor. First thing he has done right in 7yrs. Doesn't change the fact he is screwing the poor and middle class on health care costs and supporting someone who will screw them worse and protect his legacy. The elder gentleman is luckily not going to live to see the destruction of the classes and the country. However, his children and grandchildren will.

Pretty sad and we should be ashamed as a people to watch it happen. So like Obama, HD says "go vote!"

[Dill]

(11-05-2016, 06:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Doubt you forgot, but they handle them in quite a bit more abrasive fashion.

Does that change the point I made about the OP?

The what?

[Dill]

(11-05-2016, 07:01 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Obama took the high road and I respect his demeanor. First thing he has done right in 7yrs. Doesn't change the fact he is screwing the poor and middle class on health care costs and supporting someone who will screw them worse and protect his legacy. The elder gentleman is luckily not going to live to see the destruction of the classes and the country. However, his children and grandchildren will.

Pretty sad and we should be ashamed as a people to watch it happen. So like Obama, HD says "go vote!"

7 years of steady rise in employment--that wasn't done right? Saving General motors? Now people cannot be excluded from insurance due to pre-existing conditions. 

I don't see any "destruction" looming on the horizon--unless Trump is elected. That will be George W. Bush X 10.

[*bfine32*]

(11-05-2016, 09:08 PM)Dill Wrote: The what?

I'm sorry I do not understand the question. If you would rephrase it, I will happily reply. Did you find the question I posed confusing? If so allow me to elaborate

In response to the OP, I asserted that what Obama did was to be admired; however, I further mentioned that it was sad that the President of the United States could not gain control of a crowd that was bent on divisiveness. 

Your "independent thinking" reply to this was to introduce Trump and his supporters into the equation. I provided you with my opinion that Trump and his supporters are more abrasive to those that interrupt his rallies.

Then I further asked what this had to do with my assertion that those at the rally were disrespectful to POTUS.

[Dill]

(11-05-2016, 09:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm sorry I do not understand the question. If you would rephrase it, I will happily reply. Did you find the question I posed confusing? If so allow me to elaborate

In response to the OP, I asserted that what Obama did was to be admired; however, I further mentioned that it was sad that the President of the United States could not gain control of a crowd that was bent on divisiveness. 

Your "independent thinking" reply to this was to introduce Trump and his supporters into the equation. I provided you with my opinion that Trump and his supporters are more abrasive to those that interrupt his rallies.

Then I further asked what this had to do with my assertion that those at the rally were disrespectful to POTUS.

I don't know what "OP" stands for.

[*bfine32*]

(11-05-2016, 10:06 PM)Dill Wrote: I don't know what "OP" stands for.

Original Post. 

[Dill]

(11-05-2016, 09:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm sorry I do not understand the question. If you would rephrase it, I will happily reply. Did you find the question I posed confusing? If so allow me to elaborate

In response to the OP, I asserted that what Obama did was to be admired; however, I further mentioned that it was sad that the President of the United States could not gain control of a crowd that was bent on divisiveness. 

Your "independent thinking" reply to this was to introduce Trump and his supporters into the equation. I provided you with my opinion that Trump and his supporters are more abrasive to those that interrupt his rallies.

Then I further asked what this had to do with my assertion that those at the rally were disrespectful to POTUS.

I missed the disrespect to Obama. Looks like he set the sort of standard we should expect from leaders, and did get
control of the crowd. He did not say he would like to punch the guy or demand to know who paid him.

Comparing the Obama/Trump crowds and the speaker's respective handling of them, provides more insight into what a
Trump presidency would be like. Hence my comparison.  

[treee]

Hey guys lets pretend that democrats are more ornery than republicans.

[*bfine32*]

(11-05-2016, 11:26 PM)Dill Wrote: I missed the disrespect to Obama. 

Watch the video again and see how quickly they respond to his request to settle down. If you still don't see that as disrespect than we have found a fundamental, but not unexpected difference. POTUS would have to tell me once to settle down.

I don't know why you keep bringing up the good thing he did; as I have said as much. Doesn't change how the crowd acted; nor does how Trump's crowd  acts.

Seems like the "2 wrongs" fallacy that has dominated this election cycle. Welcome to the machine