Older Illegals: DACA Kids have a sense of entitlement

[StLucieBengal]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/19/daca-kids-definitely-have-this-sense-of-entitlement-older-illegal-aliens-turn-on-younger/

Even the other illegals are turning on them. Could democrats and amnesty gop’ers play his any worse

Quote:‘DACA Kids Definitely Have this Sense of Entitlement’: Older Illegal Aliens Turn on Younger

John Binder19 Feb 2018
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Older illegal aliens who entered the United States decades ago are growing increasingly annoyed by younger illegal aliens who were given temporary amnesty by the President Obama-created Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

A report by the Los Angeles Times reveals how older illegal aliens are sick of DACA illegal aliens receiving the vast majority of public attention in the last year, as Congress has attempted, but failed to grant them amnesty to permanently remain in the U.S.

The LA Times interviewed one older illegal alien in particular, who complained that a DACA amnesty would not be enough for the roughly 12 to 30 million illegal alien population because he would not get amnesty under such a plan.

Ever since Sam Paredes crossed into the U.S. illegally from Mexico nearly 30 years ago, he followed a simple philosophy of keeping his head down and trying to stay out of trouble.

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Now he watches as the White House and Congress continue to grapple and negotiate and argue — but at least talk about — the future of the so-called Dreamers.

“I’m very bitter. These DACA kids definitely have this sense of entitlement,” Paredes said. “People fought for them and they got DACA and they got their work permit and then they went to sleep, instead of working to fight for the rest of us.” [Emphasis added]

Another illegal alien interviewed by the LA Times is 35-year-old Alessandro Negrete. He says the DACA illegal aliens do not realize how easy they have it, “You think you have it hard?” he angrily told his friend. “You at least have legal status. For some people like me, my mom and some of my neighbors, we don’t have [that].” [Emphasis added]

While a DACA amnesty would reward illegal aliens enrolled in the program with a potential pathway to U.S. citizenship, it would come with tremendous costs for American citizens.

For example, a DACA amnesty would put more citizen children of illegal aliens — known as “anchor babies” — on federal welfare, as Breitbart News reported, while American taxpayers would be left with potentially a $26 billion bill.

Additionally, about one in five DACA illegal aliens, after an amnesty, would end up on food stamps, while at least one in seven would go on Medicaid.

Any plan to give amnesty to DACA illegal aliens that does not also include provisions to halve legal immigration levels — the U.S. admits more than one million legal immigrants a year at the expense of America’s working and middle class — would give amnestied illegal aliens the opportunity to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country.

At the southern border, a DACA amnesty has the potential to trigger a border surge that could triple the number of illegal aliens pouring through the border. Since DACA’s inception, more than 2,100 recipients of the program have been kicked off because they were found to either be criminals or gang members.

John Binder is a reporter for Breitbart News. Follow him on Twitter at @JxhnBinder.

[BmorePat87]

Breitbart with the groundbreaking news that old people think young people are entitled.

[BmorePat87]

Unsurprisingly, though, the narrative from Breitbart is severely flawed. While a single person called them entitled, both of the illegal immigrants interviewed expressed a desire for expanding the focus of obtaining legal status for all illegal immigrants, just not young ones. Not sure how they are turning on DACA if all they're saying is "hey, help us too", but making sense isn't a requirement of that white nationalist trash heap.

The actual report from the LA Times is more nuance and delves into the divide between Dreamers. Some want to reject anything that also doesn't help their older friends, family members, and neighbors. Other see this as their only chance and would rather just take what is offered and try for the rest later.

Certainly a far more interesting issue to discuss but it doesn't really fit the narrative Breitbart desperately needs to push.

[StLucieBengal]

(02-20-2018, 10:29 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Breitbart with the groundbreaking news that old people think young people are entitled.

That would be the Los Angeles Times

[StLucieBengal]

(02-20-2018, 10:34 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Unsurprisingly, though, the narrative from Breitbart is severely flawed. While a single person called them entitled, both of the illegal immigrants interviewed expressed a desire for expanding the focus of obtaining legal status for all illegal immigrants, just not young ones. Not sure how they are turning on DACA if all they're saying is "hey, help us too", but making sense isn't a requirement of that white nationalist trash heap.

The actual report from the LA Times is more nuance and delves into the divide between Dreamers. Some want to reject anything that also doesn't help their older friends, family members, and neighbors. Other see this as their only chance and would rather just take what is offered and try for the rest later.

Certainly a far more interesting issue to discuss but it doesn't really fit the narrative Breitbart desperately needs to push.

DACA should all be deported as well. We don’t need any of the law breakers. I am willing to give them a break for a tight border moving forward.

As for the class system of illegals ........ lol.

[BmorePat87]

(02-20-2018, 10:52 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: That would be the Los Angeles Times

You're attributing Breitbart's narrative to their source. You should have just posted the LA Times article rather than a garbage white nationalist interpretation of it.

(02-20-2018, 10:54 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: DACA should all be deported as well.   We don’t need any of the law breakers.   I am willing to give them a break for a tight border moving forward.

As for the class system of illegals ........ lol.

Solid analysis of the article. If you weren't interested in addressing either the Breitbart article or the LA Times articles, you should have just regurgitated your views in one of the other immigration threads. 

[*Nately120*]

Sounds like the illegals are assimilating nicely with the "Blah blah blah, I had it so hard, blah blah blah, the younger generation is entitled! Blah blah blah, you gotta listen to me because I fell out of a vagina before you did, blah blah blah" shtick.

[Johnny Cupcakes]

This could actually buy them a bit of love with the curmudgeon crowd that complains about the younger generations that they were directly responsible for raising.

My response when someone says "Kids today....", .......You should have done a better job as a role model.

[*michaelsean*]

(02-20-2018, 11:19 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Sounds like the illegals are assimilating nicely with the "Blah blah blah, I had it so hard, blah blah blah, the younger generation is entitled!  Blah blah blah, you gotta listen to me because I fell out of a vagina before you did, blah blah blah" shtick.

[StLucieBengal]

(02-20-2018, 11:03 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: You're attributing Breitbart's narrative to their source. You should have just posted the LA Times article rather than a garbage white nationalist interpretation of it.


Solid analysis of the article. If you weren't interested in addressing either the Breitbart article or the LA Times articles, you should have just regurgitated your views in one of the other immigration threads. 

Are we supposed to be shocked that illegals want to expand amnesty?

It’s actually pretty disgusting. If any of these people had a shred of dignity they would self deport and apply legally.

[Griever]

(02-21-2018, 11:47 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Are we supposed to be shocked that illegals want to expand amnesty?

It’s actually pretty disgusting.  If any of these people had a shred of dignity they would self deport and apply legally.

its all reagans fault

how dare he give amnesty to 3 million in the 80s

[StLucieBengal]

(02-21-2018, 11:48 AM)Griever Wrote: its all reagans fault

how dare he give amnesty to 3 million in the 80s

Yes he screwed up.

It all started with teddy Kennedy.

[BmorePat87]

(02-21-2018, 11:47 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Are we supposed to be shocked that illegals want to expand amnesty?

It’s actually pretty disgusting.  If any of these people had a shred of dignity they would self deport and apply legally.

At this point you're trolling your own thread and are trying to derail any attempts to address the article you posted.


How amusing. 

[Griever]

(02-21-2018, 11:58 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: At this point you're trolling your own thread and are trying to derail any attempts to address the article you posted.


How amusing. 

and we've come full circle in the life cycle of posts by Lucie

[StLucieBengal]

(02-21-2018, 11:58 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: At this point you're trolling your own thread and are trying to derail any attempts to address the article you posted.


How amusing. 

They are turning on each other. Which means the strict immigration policy ideas that resonating. It’s only a matter of time.

Their sympathy play is getting old. Even among their own group.

[BmorePat87]

(02-21-2018, 01:24 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: They are turning on each other.  Which means the strict immigration policy ideas that resonating.    It’s only a matter of time.  

I don't follow your logic here. If they all at least agree with expanding immigration, how is restricting immigration resonating?

Quote:Their sympathy play is getting old.    Even among their own group.

Who do you mean by "their"?  Are you referring to DACA eligible people, DACA eligible people who want to expand protections past DACA, DACA eligible people who don't want to expand protections beyond DACA, or non DACA eligible people?

Also, by your own flimsy logic, both groups are using a sympathy defense for their policy position, so I'm not sure where you're going with this. 


I understand that Breitbart made it seem like old immigrants versus young immigrants, but if you actually read the LA Times story, it's not.