Open-Minded Liberals at it again

[treee]

(02-06-2017, 02:23 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Trump already declared they have no right to protest him.

Sounds like Trump needs a crash course on what a "right" is.

[Bengalzona]

(02-06-2017, 02:23 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Trump already declared they have no right to protest him.

People actually still pay attention to what he says?

I've given up on "tracking his tweets". I track his actions after he does them and then make judgments. But I'm withholding over all judgment until after the first 100 days. Every POTUS ought to at least get that much.

[hollodero]

(02-06-2017, 02:23 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Trump already declared they have no right to protest him.

Yeah well, I solely meant the moral right. What Trump meant, I do not know.

[*michaelsean*]

(02-06-2017, 02:31 PM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah well, I solely meant the moral right. What Trump meant, I do not know.

I was just kidding.  

[GMDino]

(02-06-2017, 01:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No one has ever denied that Trump supporters have gotten violent with protesters at Trump events. I'll see if anyone else can identify the dynamic you are missing. 

Wasn't there a todo between Matt and someone about how the left is more violent and the right just SAID they would be violent but since they won they didn't do it? LOL!

[Dill]

(02-05-2017, 08:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I did say that; you just added the "breaking in" part. 


When you have 1500 "peaceful" folks holding signs such as "This is war" and "No safe space for racist" that could be considered stirring the pot. But that's just me

Could be free speech--aka freedom to stir the pot.  If the university allows a racist to speak, others are allowed to protest.

I added the "breaking in" because that is a more appropriate analogy if Black Block was an uninvited guest.

[*bfine32*]

(02-06-2017, 04:04 PM)Dill Wrote: Could be free speech--aka freedom to stir the pot.  If the university allows a racist to speak, others are allowed to protest.

I added the "breaking in" because that is a more appropriate analogy if Black Block was an uninvited guest.

The "peaceful" protesters were uninvited guests; did they "break in"?. You just added breaking so to remove any responsibility from the school. Not all speech is protected. When your speech promotes and advocates violence there are limits.

[*bfine32*]

(02-06-2017, 02:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: Wasn't there a todo between Matt and someone about how the left is more violent and the right just SAID they would be violent but since they won they didn't do it? LOL!

It seems your recall is selective and if it were complete you would understand the dynamic that you are missing. Being as no one else wanted to help you out when I asked earlier; I'll light the candle.

The difference is where they occur. The left conducts violent acts at venues they oppose and are "breaking in" as Dill would put it. The right conducts violent activities at functions they are invited to and an uninvited guest breaks in. 

Sort of like if you come into my house uninvited stirring up trouble and I whip your ass, I very well may be within my rights. Conversely, if I come into your house uninvited (read Breaking In), stir up trouble, and whip your ass and destroy your ptoperty. I am not within my rights.

[GMDino]

Just tired of bickering of stupid crap.

[*bfine32*]

(02-06-2017, 05:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: Anyway the "location" of the violence wasn't discussed in the exchange I referenced.

Did you just say that and then quote this (bolded it even)?

bfine32 Wrote:Not sure if it were hashed out. I think we were able to find 1 Trump supporter that was running his mouth; however, there were no acts of violence committed in a forum that was counter to their beliefs. 

As to the rest, just feeble straw man. I don't think you or Dill need me in this conversation any longer; as you are both fully capable of just making up what I say. 

[GMDino]

I already deleted it before you replied because I'm tired of the bickering.

Both sides stink.

Trup supporters were violent.  Trump protesters were destructive.

Whatever.

Meanwhile Trump himself is making a mockery of the position he holds.  Not gonna argue about who supports who and who is worse acting because of it anymore.

[*bfine32*]

Credit where it is due:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lady-gaga-delivers-pepsi-super-093157008.html

Although. Gaga  is a huge Hillary supporter and no fan of Trump. Her performance at halftime of the SB was patriotic; heck she even said "One Nation under God".

[Dill]

(02-06-2017, 05:35 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The "peaceful" protesters were uninvited guests; did they "break in"?. You just added breaking so to remove any responsibility from the school. Not all speech is protected. When your speech promotes and advocates violence there are limits.

That is why people were protesting Milo.  http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/us/milo-yiannopoulos-ivory-tower/index.html
and his supporters--



The peaceful protesters don't have to be invited to their own campus. 

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(02-06-2017, 12:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Nope

So we agree. Tell Dill. 

However, when a protest includes signs advocating violence; the chance of violent actions are increased. All the more so once the violence does start and folks are getting beat up for simply attending a function and bystanders start chanting "Beat his ass".

You're protesting the protests, Mr. Pot Stirrer. Defending Conway's massacre lie is more of your usual pot stirring. 

[*bfine32*]

Here they are again disrupting a peaceful march:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/violence-breaks-out-at-pro-trump-rally-in-berkeley/ar-AAnNzBJ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Quote:Saturday's "March 4 Trump" rally, one of several held across the country, began at Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park about 2 p.m.
The Trump supporters marched several blocks but were met by a group of counter-demonstrators, and fights began breaking out, according to Matthai Chakko, a spokesman for the city of Berkeley.

Videos and photos posted on Twitter showed people punching each other and pulling their hair, with one man using an unidentified object to beat another person. Several people in the crowd were pepper-sprayed, including an elderly man.

At least two people, with their faces covered up, could be seen on video trying to set fire to an American flag, while a photo on Twitter showed the bloody face of a man who wore a T-shirt that said "Trump is My President."

[Griever]

(03-05-2017, 11:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Here they are again disrupting a peaceful march:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/violence-breaks-out-at-pro-trump-rally-in-berkeley/ar-AAnNzBJ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

anything showing who started said fight? or are you just assuming it was the anti trumpers?

They sure are violent

[BmorePat87]

they sure are marching

[*bfine32*]

(03-06-2017, 10:56 AM)Griever Wrote: anything showing who started said fight? or are you just assuming it was the anti trumpers?

They sure are violent

I'd go out on a limb and say the ones that disrupted the planned march. of course folks around here require different levels of proof depending on the side they support.

I do agree, it does appear the left is extremely violent as has been showed throughout the past election cycle and early into the current Presidency. They are like a bunch of petulant children that did not get what they wanted.

[GMDino]

(03-06-2017, 04:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'd go out on a limb and say the ones that disrupted the planned march. of course folks around here require different levels of proof depending on the side they support.

I do agree, it does appear the left is extremely violent as has been showed throughout the past election cycle and early into the current Presidency.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/donald-trump-nevada-rally-punch/

Quote:Donald Trump unleashed tough rhetoric against his rivals as well as a protester at a Monday night rally, the eve before the Nevada caucuses.

"I'd like to punch him in the face," Trump said, remarking that a man disrupting his rally was escorted out with a smile on his face. "He's smiling, having a good time."

The GOP front-runner also ratcheted up his attacks on Sen. Ted Cruz, calling his Republican presidential rival "sick."

Trump claimed the protester was "nasty as hell" and accused the man of trying to punch the security officers forcing him out of the rally, though the man did not appear to be fighting off those officers.

"In the old days," Trump added, protesters would be "carried out on stretchers."

"We're not allowed to push back anymore," Trump said.

(03-06-2017, 04:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: They are like a bunch of petulant children that did not get what they wanted.

The first meeting Jeff Sessions had with the Russian Amb was set up by the Obama Administration under education program for 100 Ambs......

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 3, 2017

[Griever]

(03-06-2017, 05:03 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/donald-trump-nevada-rally-punch/

The first meeting Jeff Sessions had with the Russian Amb was set up by the Obama Administration under education program for 100 Ambs......

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 3, 2017

he sure is a *****