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Orlando Sentinel endorsement for president in 2020: Not Donald Trump
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An Editorial.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-sentinel-not-endorsing-donald-trump-2020-20190618-63ya7cyb5ngf3irllodwxnznui-story.html


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We’re here to announce our endorsement for president in 2020, or, at least, who we’re not endorsing: Donald Trump.


Some readers will wonder how we could possibly eliminate a candidate so far before an election, and before knowing the identity of his opponent.



Because there’s no point pretending we would ever recommend that readers vote for Trump.


After 2½ years we’ve seen enough.


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Enough of the chaos, the division, the schoolyard insults, the self-aggrandizement, the corruption, and especially the lies.


So many lies — from white lies to whoppers — told out of ignorance, laziness, recklessness, expediency or opportunity.


Trump’s capacity for lying isn’t the surprise here, though the frequency is.


It’s the tolerance so many Americans have for it.


There was a time when even a single lie — a phony college degree, a bogus work history — would doom a politician’s career.


Not so for Trump, who claimed in 2017 that he lost the popular vote because millions of people voted illegally (they didn’t). In 2018 he said North Korea was no longer a nuclear threat (it is). And in 2019 he said windmills cause cancer (they don’t). Just last week he claimed the media fabricated unfavorable results from his campaign’s internal polling (it didn’t).

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According to a Washington Post database, the president has tallied more than 10,000 lies since he took office.



Trump’s successful assault on truth is the great casualty of this presidency, followed closely by his war on decency.


Trump insults political opponents and national heroes alike with middle-school taunts. He demonstrates no capacity for empathy or remorse. He misuses his office to punish opponents, as when he recently called for a boycott of AT&T to get even with his least favorite media outlet, CNN. He tears down institutions, once airily suggesting the U.S. should try having a leader for life as China now allows. He seems incapable of learning a lesson, telling an ABC interviewer last week — just two months after Robert Mueller’s report on election interference was released — that he would accept dirt on an opponent from Russia or China.

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Trump has diminished our standing in the world. He reneges on deals, attacks allies and embraces enemies.


This nation must never forget that humiliating public moment in Helsinki in 2018 when the president of the United States chose to accept Vladimir Putin’s denials of Russian interference in the 2016 election over the unanimous assessment of the American intelligence community.


Such a betrayal by a U.S. president would have been the unforgivable political sin in normal times.


As if that’s not enough, Trump declares his love for North Korea’s Kim Jong-un, a genuine villain who starves and enslaves his people and executes his enemies with antiaircraft guns and flamethrowers.


But he wrote the president a “beautiful letter.” Flattery will get you everywhere with this president, and that’s dangerous.


Domestically, the president’s signature issue — immigration — has moved in fits and starts. Happily, he abandoned pursuing an outright — and unconstitutional — ban on Muslims entering the U.S., opting instead to restrict travel for people from a handful of nations, most of them majority Muslim.


He’s tried separating families, sending troops to the border and declaring a national emergency. For all of that, illegal border crossings are, as the president himself calls it, at crisis levels.


He blames House Democrats because casting blame is Trump’s forte. But Republicans controlled the House and the Senate for two full years. That seemed like an ideal time to fix what the president believes ails our immigration laws.


Even with Democrats now controlling the House, where is Trump’s much-touted deal-making mojo, an attribute he campaigned on?


“But the economy!”


Yes, the market has done well since Trump’s election.


The S&P 500 was up about 21% between Trump’s inauguration and May 31 of his third year in office. Under President Obama, it was up about 56% in that same period.


Unemployment is headed down, as it was during seven straight years under Obama.


Wages are up, and that’s a welcome change. But GDP increases so far are no better than some periods under Obama. Deficit spending under Obama was far too high, in part because of the stimulus needed to dig out of the Great Recession. Under Trump, it’s still headed in the wrong direction, once again pushing $1 trillion even though the economy is healthy.


Trump seems to care nothing about the deficit and the national debt, which once breathed life into the Tea Party.


Through all of this, Trump’s base remains loyal. Sadly, the truest words Trump might ever have spoken was when he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose his supporters.


This non-endorsement isn’t defaulting to whomever the Democrats choose. This newspaper has a history of presidential appointments favoring Republicans starting in the mid-20th century. Except for Lyndon Johnson in 1964, the Sentinel backed Republican presidential nominees from 1952 through 2004, when we recommended John Kerry over another four years of George W. Bush.


As recently as 2012 we recommended Republican Mitt Romney because of what seemed at the time to be Obama’s failure to adequately manage the nation’s finances.


If — however unlikely — a Republican like Romney, now a senator from Utah, or former Ohio Gov. John Kasich successfully primaried the president, we would eagerly give them a look. Same if an independent candidate mounted a legitimate campaign.


We’d even consider backing Trump if, say, he found the proverbial cure for cancer or — about as likely — changed the essence of who he is (he won’t).


The nation must endure another 1½ years of Trump. But it needn’t suffer another four beyond that.


We can do better. We have to do better.


A little bit of confirmation bias for me here as they say what I have been saying (and what all sane people know) about DJT since 2016 and until now.  But to come from a right leaning editorial board gives me some hope.
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(06-18-2019, 06:59 PM)GMDino Wrote: An Editorial.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-sentinel-not-endorsing-donald-trump-2020-20190618-63ya7cyb5ngf3irllodwxnznui-story.html




A little bit of confirmation bias for me here as they say what I have been saying (and what all sane people know) about DJT since 2016 and until now.  But to come from a right leaning editorial board gives me some hope.

They weren't right leaning in 2016

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-endorsements-president-20161015-story.html
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(06-18-2019, 10:59 PM)Goalpost Wrote: They weren't right leaning in 2016

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-endorsements-president-20161015-story.html

Mellow


Quote:This non-endorsement isn’t defaulting to whomever the Democrats choose. This newspaper has a history of presidential appointments favoring Republicans starting in the mid-20th century. Except for Lyndon Johnson in 1964, the Sentinel backed Republican presidential nominees from 1952 through 2004, when we recommended John Kerry over another four years of George W. Bush.





As recently as 2012 we recommended Republican Mitt Romney because of what seemed at the time to be Obama’s failure to adequately manage the nation’s finances.


If — however unlikely — a Republican like Romney, now a senator from Utah, or former Ohio Gov. John Kasich successfully primaried the president, we would eagerly give them a look. Same if an independent candidate mounted a legitimate campaign.

Right "leaning".  Twice since the 1950's endorsing a Democrat fits that description.
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(06-18-2019, 10:59 PM)Goalpost Wrote: They weren't right leaning in 2016

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-endorsements-president-20161015-story.html

It appears 3 of the last 4 Elections they've endorsed the Democrat. "Been backing Republicans since 1952" when did the parties switch sides again? I always get confused on that. 

WTS, I have 0 problem with this paper putting their money where their mouth is. Just seemed like they may have tried to pimp the "we're neutral" message a little to much.
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(06-18-2019, 06:59 PM)GMDino Wrote: An Editorial.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-sentinel-not-endorsing-donald-trump-2020-20190618-63ya7cyb5ngf3irllodwxnznui-story.html




A little bit of confirmation bias for me here as they say what I have been saying (and what all sane people know) about DJT since 2016 and until now.  But to come from a right leaning editorial board gives me some hope.

Who cares what they think?
You should be careful though. The more the media blasts him, the more people will flock to him. You already saw this happen once before.
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(06-19-2019, 03:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Who cares what they think?
You should be careful though. The more the media blasts him, the more people will flock to him. You already saw this happen once before.

Who cares what you think?  Ninja

All seriousness aside this trope that people "flock" to Trump when people speak the truth about him is very sad.
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(06-18-2019, 10:59 PM)Goalpost Wrote: They weren't right leaning in 2016

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-endorsements-president-20161015-story.html

Yeah, they endorse Clinton. As a neo-liberal she was closer to mainstream Republicanism (or what was mainstream Republicanism) than Trump was.

(06-19-2019, 03:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Who cares what they think?
You should be careful though. The more the media blasts him, the more people will flock to him. You already saw this happen once before.

Newspaper endorsements have, indeed, become less valuable in modern times. They also acknowledge that what they say will fall on deaf ears to his most ardent supporters. But that's not who they are targeting. They are aiming this at "independents" and "moderates" that aren't behind him. Granted, it's probably still going to fall on deaf ears, but they make a pretty good argument.
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(06-19-2019, 04:09 PM)GMDino Wrote: Who cares what you think?  Ninja

All seriousness aside this trope that people "flock" to Trump when people speak the truth about him is very sad.

What isn't sad about the situation we are in? Our country is on a decline in every way but economically, and that may be coming soon if you ask most economists.
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"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
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(06-19-2019, 04:14 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: What isn't sad about the situation we are in? Our country is on a decline in every way but economically, and that may be coming soon if you ask most economists.

Are you IMPLYING that the POTUS is lying about how wonderful is now?!?!

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(06-19-2019, 04:14 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: What isn't sad about the situation we are in? Our country is on a decline in every way but economically, and that may be coming soon if you ask most economists.

You mean the doom and gloom peeps that are scared to get into a trade war with China?
China is long over due and we need to get off of their teat, yea it won't be pretty for us, but we will be better for it in the long run, or do you disagree with that?
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(06-19-2019, 04:14 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: What isn't sad about the situation we are in? Our country is on a decline in every way but economically, and that may be coming soon if you ask most economists.
So the society is good.
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(06-19-2019, 03:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Who cares what they think?
You should be careful though. The more the media blasts him, the more people will flock to him. You already saw this happen once before.

He might even get a majority the next time if this keeps up.





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