Photo Exposes Police Cover-up of the Fatal Shooting of Jermaine McBean

[GMDino]

Black man carrying what looks like a gun? Call 911...shoot first and ask questions later.

Just an isolated incident...nothing to see here.

Again.

http://revolution-news.com/photo-exposes-police-cover-up-of-the-fatal-shooting-of-jermaine-mcbean/

Quote:A newly surfaced photo of 33-year-old Jermaine McBean as he lay dying shows that he was wearing earbuds at the time of the shooting. Police claim the earbuds were in McBean’s pocket and said there was no reason to believe he did not hear their orders.

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Fort Lauderdale – On July 13, 2013 after Florida police shot 33-year-old information-technology specialist Jermaine McBean to death as he walked home with an unloaded BB gun he had just purchased, they claimed there was no reason to believe McBean did not hear their orders to drop the weapon and that he had actually pointed it at them, so they fired shots. Both of those claims are lies.



The newly emerged photo shows earbuds in McBean’s ears immediately after the 2013 shooting proving the police version of events were part of a murder cover-up.

The witness who took the photo, a nurse who asked to remain anonymous, says she pointed out the earbuds to police at the scene, after they refused her offer to provide first aid to the dying man.

Another aspect of the fabricated police account is the claim that McBean pointed the BB Gun at the officers is being contradicted by the man who called 911 when he saw McBean walking around with the air rifle and later witnessed his death, who says McBean never pointed it at police or anyone else.

Michael Russell McCarthy, 58, told NBC News that McBean had the Air Rifle balanced on his shoulders behind his neck, with his hand over both ends, and was turning around to face police when one officer began shooting.

McCarthy continued “He [McBean] couldn’t have fired that gun from the position he was in. There was no possible way of firing it and at the same time hitting something,” “I kind of blame myself, because if I hadn’t called it might not have happened.”

McCarthy said he was in his car at a red light when McBean crossed the street in front of him, at a distance of six to eight feet, with the rifle.



“He had a white plastic bag around the center of it, but the barrel was sticking out one end and the stock was sticking out the other end,” he said. “It was obvious it was a rifle. To be honest with you, the gun was painted camo but I wasn’t sure if it was a fake gun or a BB gun.

“He changed his position two, three times, mainly just walking down the street with it. First thing I thought was this guy is going to kill someone.”

McCarthy called 911 and the tapes show he told the dispatcher, with urgency and alarm in his voice, that it looked like a .22 caliber rifle or a pellet gun. “I will say this: He’s not like acting crazy or aggressive with it, he’s not shaking it or nothing,” he told them. “I’m not going to say he’s waving it, he’s just walking along with it.”

Two other people also called 911. One of them, a woman, said: “He’s carrying what looks like some sort of BB gun, shotgun, I don’t know what it is [but]it’s camouflaged, and he’s screaming really loud to himself. It could be a fake gun, but it looks like it could be real, too.”

“I was highly upset,” McBean’s mother, Jennifer Young, said of the moment she learned about the photo. “I said, ‘They lied to me. What else have they lied about?'”

The family explained that McBean always has earbuds on when he is out walking. The homicide detective who led the police departments internal review had told the McBean family that the earbuds were found in McBeans pocket, with his phone, at the hospital.

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While McCarthy was still on the phone, he saw McBean turn into an apartment complex. He said “cops came flying by” and he followed the last car onto the grounds.

Looking out his passenger window, he said, he could see officers corralling residents away from a pool off to the right and three officers moving in on McBean. Then he heard three shots.

“Bam. Bam. Bam,” he said.

“He [McBean] dropped to the ground, the rifle bounced off the ground and I was sitting in my truck going, ‘What the hell is this!'” he added.

“They all converged over the top of him and it looked like he was having a convulsion. You could tell he was in serious pain.”

McCarthy told police the “rifle was still on the subject’s shoulders” when the gunshots rang out, a different sheriff’s report confirms.

“They could have just tackled him, or just tased him. Why shoot him three times?” Alfred Mc Bean said. “Criminal charges need to be filed.”

His mother agreed.

“He’s very missed, he was very loved and he was a loving and caring person himself,” she said. “I can’t wait to get justice for him.”

McBean, who had two degrees from Pace University in New York, worked in information technology at a Fort Lauderdale ad agency, servicing the company’s computers. He wore his earbuds to listen to music, and to handle service calls, family said. He did not have a criminal record, according to Schoen and to a search of public records.

A transcript shows that Deputy Peter Peraza, who fired the fatal shots, repeatedly told sheriff’s investigators that he did not see anything in McBean’s ears.

Peraza said that he fired his service weapon after McBean “pulled the weapon up over his head and grabbed it and started to turn and point it at us.”

“I felt like my life was threatened. I had that feeling like if I would not go home that day,””I felt like I could’ve been killed. My sergeant could’ve been killed. He could’ve shot somebody in the pool area. So as soon as he did turn and point his weapon at us, that’s when I fired my duty weapon.”

Another officer at the scene, Sgt. Richard LaCerra, told investigators that McBean “spun around” and brought the rifle over his shoulders. “I thought at that point and time he was gonna swing and point the rifle at us,” he said. “And the next thing I know there was gunshots.”

LaCerra said that after McBean fell, the wounded man said to him, “It was just a BB gun.”

Even if you believe the police...who we now can see were lying...once it was discovered it was an unloaded air gun why would anyone believe he deliberately didn't listen and then POINTED it at officers?!?!

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(06-02-2015, 07:47 AM)GMDino Wrote: Black man carrying what looks like a gun?  Call 911...shoot first and ask questions later.

Just an isolated incident...nothing to see here.

Again.

http://revolution-news.com/photo-exposes-police-cover-up-of-the-fatal-shooting-of-jermaine-mcbean/


Even  if you believe the police...who we now can see were lying...once it was discovered it was an unloaded air gun why would anyone believe he deliberately didn't listen and then POINTED it at officers?!?!

Meh...I've become increasingly disappointed with law enforcement.  I live in a pretty decent area and even here I feel like the police are just being dicks and harassing people over petty shit.

[GMDino]

(06-02-2015, 12:25 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Meh...I've become increasingly disappointed with law enforcement.  I live in a pretty decent area and even here I feel like the police are just being dicks and harassing people over petty shit.

Event the guy who called 911 felt bad for even doing it.

But again, they got caught lying.  Period.

Now we see if anything happens to these "couple bad apples". 

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(06-02-2015, 01:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: Event the guy who called 911 felt bad for even doing it.

But again, they got caught lying.  Period.

Now we see if anything happens to these "couple bad apples". 

It just seems to me that it takes a certain type of person to want to be a cop.  Maybe I'm jaded (I've never been in any real trouble), but I feel like people that want to be cops, feel like they need to have control and power over others, rather than "serve and protect".  Honestly I feel we are overly policed.  I don't know if this statistic is true or not, but I've heard that this country has one of the most imprisoned populations in the democratic free world (thanks to the war on drugs).  And don't even get me started on traffic violations, which I believe is just a way to generate revenue and be a general pain in peoples asses. :snark:

/rant

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-02-2015, 12:25 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Meh...I've become increasingly disappointed with law enforcement.  I live in a pretty decent area and even here I feel like the police are just being dicks and harassing people over petty shit.

(06-02-2015, 01:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: Event the guy who called 911 felt bad for even doing it.

But again, they got caught lying.  Period.

Now we see if anything happens to these "couple bad apples". 

(06-02-2015, 02:30 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: It just seems to me that it takes a certain type of person to want to be a cop.  Maybe I'm jaded (I've never been in any real trouble), but I feel like people that want to be cops, feel like they need to have control and power over others, rather than "serve and protect".  Honestly I feel we are overly policed.  I don't know if this statistic is true or not, but I've heard that this country has one of the most imprisoned populations in the democratic free world (thanks to the war on drugs).  And don't even get me started on traffic violations, which I believe is just a way to generate revenue and be a general pain in peoples asses. :snark:

/rant

You're certainly eating the narrative you're being fed boys.  Never mind that a bad shooting occurs in such a minute number of police/citizen/criminal interactions as to be statistically insignificant.  Something that happens .0001% of the time is clearly the issue of our time.  You're right Gmdino, with your obsessive anti-law enforcement agenda, the cops are all bad guys, it's not just a "few bad apples".  We all lie, we all cover up for each other, we all go to work every day just itching for the chance to kill a minority; preferably a black person.


Spoon it up guys, just don't be surprised when the typical over reaction occurs (they're already talking about letting burglars fee because it's just a "crime against property) and you get the same situation you're currently getting in Baltimore and other major cities.  I am so thankful that my promotion is coming through and I'll be off the streets soon.

[GMDino]

(06-02-2015, 04:46 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're certainly eating the narrative you're being fed boys.  Never mind that a bad shooting occurs in such a minute number of police/citizen/criminal interactions as to be statistically insignificant.  Something that happens .0001% of the time is clearly the issue of our time.  You're right Gmdino, with your obsessive anti-law enforcement agenda, the cops are all bad guys, it's not just a "few bad apples".  We all lie, we all cover up for each other, we all go to work every day just itching for the chance to kill a minority; preferably a black person.


Spoon it up guys, just don't be surprised when the typical over reaction occurs (they're already talking about letting burglars fee because it's just a "crime against property) and you get the same situation you're currently getting in Baltimore and other major cities.  I am so thankful that my promotion is coming through and I'll be off the streets soon.

Yep.  I'm just an anti-cop guy.

I'm certainly not saying they need held to higher standards or that with more and more technology we are catching the "few bad apples" at a higher rate.

Yep.

Oh...and nothing on these two who killed a man and then lied about it?  Nothing at all?  Just that the police should stop doing their job because people want them to do it without killing innocent people and lying about it?

Okie dokie.

I'll remember that at the next memorial 5K I haul my fat ass around to raise money for local officers.  Or the next time I donate to any pro-police cause.  That because I point out it happens and you deny it has any statistical significance it must mean nothing at all. 

[JustWinBaby]

(06-02-2015, 04:52 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yep.  I'm just an anti-cop guy....

Oh...and nothing on these two who killed a man and then lied about it?  Nothing at all?  Just that the police should stop doing their job because people want them to do it without killing innocent people and lying about it?

Yeah, like 3 out of the 10 giant stories blowing up over the past half year actually indicative of improper procedure or lack of training....during at time with some 5 million arrests and millions more interactions.

Yep, really a problem that needs solved.  Truth be told, bad cop shootings are about as frequent as commercial airplane crashes.

[GMDino]

(06-02-2015, 05:09 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yeah, like 3 out of the 10 giant stories blowing up over the past half year actually indicative of improper procedure or lack of training....during at time with some 5 million arrests and millions more interactions.

Yep, really a problem that needs solved.  Truth be told, bad cop shootings are about as frequent as commercial airplane crashes.

And we never investigate those or ask what could be done differently or see if anyone is to blame.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-02-2015, 04:52 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yep.  I'm just an anti-cop guy.

I'm certainly not saying they need held to higher standards or that with more and more technology we are catching the "few bad apples" at a higher rate.

Quite simply, yes you are.  Unfortunately for you I recall, and I know I'm not the only one, the thread you started about a police shooting in the St. Louis area just before Christmas.  You immediately started ranting about police "murdering" yet another black person and that their account should not be trusted.  You even dismissed the incredibly obvious video evidence of the perpetrator pointing a gun at the officer.  If you're really trying to claim you don't have an anti-law enforcement agenda then the only person you're fooling is yourself because your posts, and constant threads, scream it.

Quote:Yep.

Oh...and nothing on these two who killed a man and then lied about it?  Nothing at all?  Just that the police should stop doing their job because people want them to do it without killing innocent people and lying about it?

LOL, sure that's what I meant with my post.  You're scrambling to defend yourself from an accurate accusation so you intend to obfuscate and insert words into my mouth.  If you disagree please point out were I excused, or have ever excused, genuine police misconduct.  I'm not the one painting a large group of people with a huge brush, that would be you.  I am calling you out though, yet again, for your obvious bias.

Quote:Okie dokie.

I'll remember that at the next memorial 5K I haul my fat ass around to raise money for local officers.  Or the next time I donate to any pro-police cause.  That because I point out it happens and you deny it has any statistical significance it must mean nothing at all. 

Whatever you have to do to get to sleep at night feel free.  Like I said, you're only lying to yourself because your own words betray you and they do so often.

(06-02-2015, 05:09 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yeah, like 3 out of the 10 giant stories blowing up over the past half year actually indicative of improper procedure or lack of training....during at time with some 5 million arrests and millions more interactions.

Yep, really a problem that needs solved.  Truth be told, bad cop shootings are about as frequent as commercial airplane crashes.

You notice the agitprop being bandied about by the Washington Post and The Guardian don't even come close to agreeing on the numbers of police shootings.  Even then they deign to lump all shootings together, because a totally legit shooting should absolutely be mentioned in the same breath as a bad one right?  Like I said earlier in the thread, and you seem to agree with, the agenda is being spoon fed and people are lapping it up.  The ability to think critically is gone in this country.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-02-2015, 05:20 PM)GMDino Wrote: And we never investigate those or ask what could be done differently or see if anyone is to blame.

We absolutely do.  We also don't see a case of pilot error being used to label the entire airline pilot profession as incompetent.  Even a deliberate act such as that German maniac crashing his plane deliberately doesn't cause such public condemnation of an entire profession and guess what, that guy killed more people than every "bad" police shooting for at least a few years.  Read the comments section of any liberal rag and observe how LEO's in their entirety are "cowards", "bullies", "jack booted thugs", "racists" and "sadists" because of the actions of less than .0001% of their ranks.  You actively contribute to it, you're border line obsessed with it and no amount of money donated to charities or miles run at events changes that one bit.  At least be a man and own your prejudices, I could at least respect that.  Right now you just come off as the racist dude who, "has lots of black friends".

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

(06-02-2015, 04:46 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're certainly eating the narrative you're being fed boys.  Never mind that a bad shooting occurs in such a minute number of police/citizen/criminal interactions as to be statistically insignificant.  Something that happens .0001% of the time is clearly the issue of our time.  You're right Gmdino, with your obsessive anti-law enforcement agenda, the cops are all bad guys, it's not just a "few bad apples".  We all lie, we all cover up for each other, we all go to work every day just itching for the chance to kill a minority; preferably a black person.


Spoon it up guys, just don't be surprised when the typical over reaction occurs (they're already talking about letting burglars fee because it's just a "crime against property) and you get the same situation you're currently getting in Baltimore and other major cities.  I am so thankful that my promotion is coming through and I'll be off the streets soon.

I had a feeling we'd hear from you on this.  And I would've been shocked not to hear from you on this given you're history of employment within the law enforcement community.  Your looking at it from the inside, and we're looking at it from the outside.  I have no doubt that you're a good dude, and probably a fair guy.  But lately, I've become jaded about the LEO in my community, I'm not going to bore you with examples (unless you'd like me to), but they just seem to be harassing more than policing. And like I said I've not been arrested or gotten into serious trouble, but they've become a pain in my ass.

I'm sure you're biased on the subject, and I don't blame you for being so.  BTW, what exactly do you do in law enforcement?

[GMDino]

(06-02-2015, 07:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Quite simply, yes you are.  Unfortunately for you I recall, and I know I'm not the only one, the thread you started about a police shooting in the St. Louis area just before Christmas.  You immediately started ranting about police "murdering" yet another black person and that their account should not be trusted.  You even dismissed the incredibly obvious video evidence of the perpetrator pointing a gun at the officer.  If you're really trying to claim you don't have an anti-law enforcement agenda then the only person you're fooling is yourself because your posts, and constant threads, scream it.[/quote}

I am probably the only person in the history of the P&R forum to ever admit I saw something more than was there and apologize for it.

What I saw in that video looked nothing like what I read the police say about it.

But, yes, I did bring it up. And I will continue to bring up when I think any member of the police abuses their position. In that case I was wrong and admitted it. Ever done that?

[quote='Sociopathicsteelerfan' pid='10418' dateline='1433282885']LOL, sure that's what I meant with my post.  You're scrambling to defend yourself from an accurate accusation so you intend to obfuscate and insert words into my mouth.  If you disagree please point out were I excused, or have ever excused, genuine police misconduct.  I'm not the one painting a large group of people with a huge brush, that would be you.  I am calling you out though, yet again, for your obvious bias.

I don't know what you "meant" but your entire response was about how this is nothing statistically and you said nothing about the case itself. Not even a passing these two were just bad cops. I put no words in your mouth...I noted the lack of words about the case. I painted these two as another example of those "few bad apples" we keep hearing are ruining it for the rest of the good ones.

(06-02-2015, 07:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Whatever you have to do to get to sleep at night feel free.  Like I said, you're only lying to yourself because your own words betray you and they do so often.

Just as you automatically jump in to defend the job of police work...even when it is obvious there is some reform needed at the bare minimum. That is YOUR bias. You fluff off every event as insignificant. I see every killed citizen, even the ones who may have been guilty, as something being wrong with a system.

(06-02-2015, 07:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You notice the agitprop being bandied about by the Washington Post and The Guardian don't even come close to agreeing on the numbers of police shootings.  Even then they deign to lump all shootings together, because a totally legit shooting should absolutely be mentioned in the same breath as a bad one right?  Like I said earlier in the thread, and you seem to agree with, the agenda is being spoon fed and people are lapping it up.  The ability to think critically is gone in this country.

I have no agenda other than to share when people in power lie to cover up their own bad deeds. You obviously defend your profession. You can continue to do that. But you cannot deny that these things not only happen...but they happen more frequently than you want to admit. Ever.

(06-02-2015, 07:16 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: We absolutely do.  We also don't see a case of pilot error being used to label the entire airline pilot profession as incompetent.  Even a deliberate act such as that German maniac crashing his plane deliberately doesn't cause such public condemnation of an entire profession and guess what, that guy killed more people than every "bad" police shooting for at least a few years.  Read the comments section of any liberal rag and observe how LEO's in their entirety are "cowards", "bullies", "jack booted thugs", "racists" and "sadists" because of the actions of less than .0001% of their ranks.  You actively contribute to it, you're border line obsessed with it and no amount of money donated to charities or miles run at events changes that one bit.  At least be a man and own your prejudices, I could at least respect that.  Right now you just come off as the racist dude who, "has lots of black friends".

First problem...you read the comments. Second problem is what I do to SUPPORT the police is because I respect the profession...not to cover for anything else I do. I have never had a bad run in with a police officer. I've met a few jerks and a-holes and I've met some good one. I'm respectful and have taught my kids the same. But that doesn't mean I will ever turn a blind eye when one or two or a van full kill a citizen for simply walking home or for previously being in jail.

So I won't stop posting about it just as you won't stop defending it. And I'll sleep well at night because I know my reasons are for awareness...not to paint the entire profession as evil of jack-booted, or thugs. But just as I hope and work for a government that is better and treats its people better I will do the same for the police.

[GodHatesBengals]

While blacks are and always have been unfairly targeted and the subject of the most brutal of police treatment, the problem is really about the police having too much power. If they have less power, then their pathetic fear of other races won't matter. We need serious reform of the entire criminal justice system in this country.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-02-2015, 10:37 PM)GMDino Wrote: I don't know what you "meant" but your entire response was about how this is nothing statistically and you said nothing about the case itself.  Not even a passing these two were just bad cops.  I put no words in your mouth...I noted the lack of words about the case.  I painted these two as another example of those "few bad apples" we keep hearing are ruining it for the rest of the good ones.

You want me to comment on every single instance you make a thread about and no one has that kind of time.

Quote:Just as you automatically jump in to defend the job of police work...even when it is obvious there is some reform needed at the bare minimum.  That is YOUR bias.  You fluff off every event as insignificant.  I see every killed citizen, even the ones who may have been guilty, as something being wrong with a system.  

Of course I defend the profession because, just as I said, no profession should be defined by the actions of it's worse .001%.  Also, I do not "fluff off" every event as insignificant so you're actually flat out lying with this "point".

Quote:I have no agenda other than to share when people in power lie to cover up their own bad deeds.  You obviously defend your profession.  You can continue to do that.  But you cannot deny that these things not only happen...but they happen more frequently than you want to admit.  Ever.

Bullshit.  You don't mention it in your response (I wonder why?) but kindly explain the thread I mentioned in which you automatically assumed a LEO had engaged in a bad shoot within two hours of the occurence only to be found 100% incorrect.  Not only that but your comments were so inane that you actually felt compelled to apologize for your comments.  You want a fact, there's a good one for you.

Quote:First problem...you read the comments.  Second problem is what I do to SUPPORT the police is because I respect the profession...not to cover for anything else I do.  I have never had a bad run in with a police officer.  I've met a few jerks and a-holes and I've met some good one.  I'm respectful and have taught my kids the same.  But that doesn't mean I will ever turn a blind eye when one or two or a van full kill a citizen for simply walking home or for previously being in jail.

 


Again, you can claim it all you want, but your threads and comments suggest otherwise.  You knee jerk condemn every shooting.  You paint every LEO with the same brush and you flat out accuse most LEO's of lying.  All of these are facts and none of them support your claim that you "respect the profession".

Quote:So I won't stop posting about it just as you won't stop defending it.  And I'll sleep well at night because I know my reasons are for awareness...not to paint the entire profession as evil of jack-booted, or thugs.  But just as I hope and work for a government that is better and treats its people better I will do the same for the police.

Yeah, if you confined yourself to this brand of commentary we wouldn't be having this discussion but you don't so we do.  You're so blinded by your bias that you fail to recall the many posts I have made about issues in the LEO community.  I guess I'm just not extreme enough in that regard for you hence your failing to recall it.  Again, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[GMDino]

(06-03-2015, 01:35 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You want me to comment on every single instance you make a thread about and no one has that kind of time.

Could have fooled me....

(06-03-2015, 01:35 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Of course I defend the profession because, just as I said, no profession should be defined by the actions of it's worse .001%.  Also, I do not "fluff off" every event as insignificant so you're actually flat out lying with this "point".

Your reaction that every time this happens its is "statistically insignificant" is YOU giving no weight to an incident where an officer killed someone, lied about it, and got caught. And you STILL haven't said anything about THIS story except that it just a couple bad apples and I post these stories too much.

(06-03-2015, 01:35 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Bullshit.  You don't mention it in your response (I wonder why?) but kindly explain the thread I mentioned in which you automatically assumed a LEO had engaged in a bad shoot within two hours of the occurence only to be found 100% incorrect.  Not only that but your comments were so inane that you actually felt compelled to apologize for your comments.  You want a fact, there's a good one for you.

So did I not mention it or did I admit I posted it because of what I thought I saw and then apologized? You can't have it both ways.
 

(06-03-2015, 01:35 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Again, you can claim it all you want, but your threads and comments suggest otherwise.  You knee jerk condemn every shooting.  You paint every LEO with the same brush and you flat out accuse most LEO's of lying.  All of these are facts and none of them support your claim that you "respect the profession".

If I posted EVERY shooting I'd have ti quit my job and spend all day on here. But I will post about the ones that look really bad. And when I am wrong I admit it. Ever done that?

(06-03-2015, 01:35 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yeah, if you confined yourself to this brand of commentary we wouldn't be having this discussion but you don't so we do.  You're so blinded by your bias that you fail to recall the many posts I have made about issues in the LEO community.  I guess I'm just not extreme enough in that regard for you hence your failing to recall it.  Again, whatever helps you sleep at night.

And again, you have no bias whatsoever.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-03-2015, 08:24 AM)GMDino Wrote: And again, you have no bias whatsoever.  

I posted an excellent example of yours.  Feel free to respond in kind, i.e. if you make a claim use some evidence to support it other than, "because I said so".  I'll wait, according to you I have plenty of time.

[*michaelsean*]

(06-02-2015, 02:30 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: It just seems to me that it takes a certain type of person to want to be a cop.  Maybe I'm jaded (I've never been in any real trouble), but I feel like people that want to be cops, feel like they need to have control and power over others, rather than "serve and protect".  Honestly I feel we are overly policed.  I don't know if this statistic is true or not, but I've heard that this country has one of the most imprisoned populations in the democratic free world (thanks to the war on drugs).  And don't even get me started on traffic violations, which I believe is just a way to generate revenue and be a general pain in peoples asses. :snark:

/rant

I have no doubt that there exists those people in law enforcement, but I think most people go into law enforcement for many reasons.  It's a family thing, it's basically a decent paying job with chance for promotion, it has to be interesting, it's challenging, and some people just want to serve and be helpful. 

My fantasy job is a homicide cop, but I realized two things.  I don't think I could handle the tragedy, and two, it's not so much about solving a crime through clues like tracking down a serial killer in a novel. It is wearing out shoe leather, pounding the keys on a computer and interviewing a billion people who don't want to be interviewed.  The monotony of the investigation has to be mind numbing.

[GMDino]

(06-03-2015, 01:02 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I posted an excellent example of yours.  Feel free to respond in kind, i.e. if you make a claim use some evidence to support it other than, "because I said so".  I'll wait, according to you I have plenty of time.

No, you posted that time I said I was wrong.

That's not bias.  Having a bias would an inability to admit I was wrong.

For example.

Edit: With that I will let you have the final word.

[*bengalfan74*]

Overall I think LE is doing a very, very, tough job really well. And in the same breath I strongly believe way to many officers/Dept's are getting way to para-military and/or aggressive in situations that don't need that level of intervention.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

(06-03-2015, 02:21 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I have no doubt that there exists those people in law enforcement, but I think most people go into law enforcement for many reasons.  It's a family thing, it's basically a decent paying job with chance for promotion, it has to be interesting, it's challenging, and some people just want to serve and be helpful. 

My fantasy job is a homicide cop, but I realized two things.  I don't think I could handle the tragedy, and two, it's not so much about solving a crime through clues like tracking down a serial killer in a novel. It  is wearing out shoe leather, pounding the keys on a computer and interviewing a billion people who don't want to be interviewed.  The monotony of the investigation has to be mind numbing.

Have you played "L.A. Noire" by Rockstar Games I think it is?

It's nothing like "Red Dead Redemption" or the "Grand Theft Auto" franchise at all aside from being able to drive around 1940's L.A. In your car. The whole game is about you solving crimes and you have to be able to read people's facial expressions and look for clues. 

I started to play it but it bored the hell out of me and couldn't continue. I got as far as looking for clues on a dead naked lady up on this hill and just couldn't take it any more.

As for the topic of the OP I have one question, how did the earbuds stay in his ear after getting shot and falling to the ground?

I don't use them so I don't know if they stay in that good or not, that's why I asked.