Hillary PHYSICALLY unfit for presidency?

[McC]

(08-14-2016, 10:41 AM)GMDino Wrote: And I'm agreeing with you.

I heard on Penn Jillette's podcast a story about how a show doing stories about the candidates couldn't find anyone who said they were a "friend" of Trump.

That's sad...because that means there isn't anyone to do as you suggested and get him to tone it down a hair or three.

Actually, it should probably be Howard Hughes disease.  He started it.

The difference between Trump and those other guys is that they hid it behind closed doors and Trump is on full display for the world to see.  The clock is ticking on whether he'll completely lose before November.

[GMDino]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/18/trumps-claim-that-clinton-lacks-the-physical-stamina-to-be-president/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_factchecker-330am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Quote:Trump’s claim that Clinton lacks the ‘physical stamina’ to be president


“To defeat crime and radical Islamic terrorism in our country, to win trade in our country, you need tremendous physical and mental strength and stamina. Hillary Clinton doesn’t have that strength and stamina.”
—  Donald Trump , [/url]speech in West Bend, Wis., Aug. 16, 2016

“Importantly, she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on ISIS.”
— Trump, [url=https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/DJT_Radical_Islam_Speech.pdf]speech in Youngstown, Ohio, Aug. 15, 2016

Two days in a row, in prepared speeches, Trump asserted that that his rival Clinton lacks “mental and physical stamina” to do the job as president.

That’s surely no accident, but a campaign official did not respond to a query about why the GOP presidential nominee was making this claim. We assume Trump’s rhetoric is related to a not-so-quiet campaign among right-leaning news entities to highlight “concerns” about Clinton’s health, often shared on social media with #HillarysHealth.

Our colleague David Weigel has already taken a good look at the smorgasbord of junk science being used to promote such claims. But now that Trump has raised the issue himself, we thought it would be a valuable service to collect all of the claims in one place — and assess whether any hold water.

The Facts
First, we should note that both candidates have released summary letters attesting to their health. Neither has met the standard set by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), when he ran for president in 2008 at the age of 71. McCain permitted reporters to view 1,173 pages of medical documents.

Clinton, who would be 69 on inauguration day, in July 2015 released a letter from Dr. Lisa Bardack, an internist in Mount Kisco, N.Y., who has served as her doctor for 15 years. The eight-paragraph letter described Clinton “as a healthy 67-year-old female whose current medical conditions include hypothyroidism and seasonal pollen allergies.”

The letter disclosed that Clinton suffered from deep vein thrombosis in 1998 and in 2009, an elbow fracture in 2009 and most notably, a concussion in 2012. (The elbow injury and concussion, when she was secretary of state, were extensively reported at the time.) The letter says her concussion symptoms, including double vision, were resolved within two months. The letter concluded that Clinton “is in excellent physical condition and fit to serve as president of the United States.”

Trump, who would be 70 on inauguration day, in December 2015 released a four-paragraph letter from Dr. Harold N. Bornstein, a gastroenterologist in New York. Bornstein said he had treated Trump for 36 years. The letter, written with Trumpian rhetoric, proclaimed that “if elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” It provided few specifics — Trump apparently takes a statin drug and baby aspirin each day — and some medical professionals have noted it was oddly worded for an official document released by a medical doctor. (For example, see this interesting rundown of concerns by Dr. Jennifer Gunter, an OB/GYN in San Francisco.)

Now here are the various allegations about Clinton — and what the evidence shows.

Purported doctor’s records showing seizures and vascular dementia

The documents suddenly emerged Aug. 8 via a Twitter account titled @HillsMedRecords that was quickly deleted. The documents allegedly showed the devastating results of two office visits to Bardack in 2014. Snopes.com, which debunks Internet rumors, quickly determined the alleged records were forgeries.
After all, the documents even got the doctor’s title wrong.

On Aug. 16, Bardack, in a statement released by the Clinton campaign, affirmed the alleged records “are false, were not written by me and are not based on any medical facts.” She reiterated that Clinton is in excellent health.

Clinton demonstrates ‘seizure-esque’ symptoms

Fox News host Sean Hannity has devoted a number of shows to “concerns” about Clinton’s health, in particular a June 10 clip of Clinton rapidly shaking her head at a group of reporters who tried to corner her for questions about her selection of a running mate. “It almost seems seizure-esque to me,” Hannity declared Aug. 10, although the two doctors on his show refused to confirm his diagnosis. “It looks like violent, out-of-control movements on her part.”

As further evidence, Hannity revisited the incident Aug. 11 and pointed to the reaction of one reporter, saying, “Watch the reporter, like, pull back as she — the reporter got scared.”

On Aug. 12, the reporter in question, Lisa Lerer of the Associated Press, penned an account of the encounter with Clinton. “For the record, I wasn’t scared for a moment,” she wrote about the “unfounded speculation.” As she explained, “Perhaps eager to avoid answering or maybe just taken aback by our volume, Clinton responded with an exaggerated motion, shaking her head vigorously for a few seconds.”
Indeed, Clinton was simply dodging the reporters’ questions as they gathered around her in a Washington muffin shop. “You guys have got to try the cold chai,” she answered.

Clinton needs help getting up stairs

On Aug. 7, photographs circulated on the Web of Clinton needing help getting up a flight of stairs. The conservative and pro-Trump Drudge Report in particular drew attention to the photographs, with the headline “Hillary Conquers the Stairs,” as staff aides appear to steady Clinton.
But the photographs were five months old, taken when she slipped while walking up the stairs at a South Carolina facility for former felons. (The photo caption at the time made that clear.) Everyone slips, every so often — and plenty of other photographs show that Clinton has no trouble navigating stairs.

Clinton wears a defibrillator

Again in August, photographs surfaced of Clinton apparently wearing a boxy contraption underneath her clothing. “One explanation is that the object is a defibrillator,” social media posts proclaimed. A defibrillator will deliver an electric shock if it detects an abnormal heart rhythm.
Snopes quickly determined the photos came from a video shot in February 2016 — and that the bulge in her back could not be from a defibrillator. Instead, it appeared she was using a wireless microphone, which requires use of a wireless transmitter. Other photographs of the candidate from the same day, wearing the same clothes, showed no bulge.

Clinton is accompanied by a doctor who carries a Diazepam pen

Conservative websites also have fanned speculation that one of Clinton’s Secret Service agents is actually a doctor who carries a Diazepam pen in case she has a seizure. (Some coughing fits by Clinton, also highlighted by conservative media, were said to be reactions to her anti-seizure medicine.) But the “doctor” was indeed a Secret Service agent, Assistant Special Agent in Charge Todd Madison — and he was likely carrying a flashlight.

The Pinocchio Test
Given Trump’s poor track record with the facts, it should be little surprise that, through innuendo, he is trying to surface debunked Internet rumors from the fringes of the right. But these are also half-baked, ridiculous and easily disproved, making it especially shocking that he would try to highlight them in prepared speeches.

Both major-party candidates have issued letters from their doctors attesting to their health. Both could clearly do more, especially given the standard set by McCain eight years ago. But in the absence of additional information, there’s little reason for a major-party nominee such as Trump to traffic in rumors and innuendo.

Trump has claimed twice, without proof, that Clinton lacks the physical and mental stamina to be president. In the absence of any evidence, he earns Four Pinocchios.



Four Pinocchios

 

[JustWinBaby]

She flew over 1M miles as Secretary of State!

Anyone who's flown knows how hard it can be to sleep on airplanes...plus the jetlag.

[fredtoast]

"The letter, written with Trumpian rhetoric, proclaimed that 'if elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.'— and some medical professionals have noted it was oddly worded for an official document released by a medical doctor."

[GMDino]

http://www.inquisitr.com/3429148/dr-harold-bornstein-dr-jacob-bornstein-trump-letter-dead-doctor-references-raise-questions/

Quote:

In December 2015, Donald Trump released a letter signed by Dr. Harold Bornstein that used a letterhead listing the name of his deceased father, Dr. Jacob Bornstein, as reported by Legacy. At the time, Donald Trump was quoted by the Verge as referring to the deceased Jacob Bornstein by name several times.


Donald Trump’s December-2015 medical letter is being brought back into the light after the Republican nominee has called on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton to release her full medical records and suggested that she does not possess the “physical stamina” to serve as president, as reported by CNN.

“I am proud to share this health report, written by the highly respected Dr. Jacob Bornstein,” the Verge quoted Trump from a now-deleted tweet in late 2015. A deleted Facebook post was also reported to refer to the late Jacob Bornstein.


“Now I know what you’re thinking at home.” Daily Show host Trevor Noah stated to viewers in a video hosted with Facebook after reviewing the letter purported to be written by Harold Bornstein. “Clearly, Donald Trump wrote that letter himself.”


“It certainly reads like a letter written by someone with close to no knowledge of Dr. Bornstein’s practice,” Dr. Jennifer Gunter with the Huffington Post wrote in response to the notion that Trump may have written the letter himself.

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[Photo by Jeff Swensen/Getty Images]


Dr. Gunter and others have noted that in addition to listing the name of the deceased Jacob Bornstein, the letterhead includes a non-functioning website and that its salutation contains a typo, something she stressed that she would be sure to avoid if drafting a letter certifying the health of a presidential candidate. Gunter also noted that few doctors would provide patients with an un-secure Gmail address as part of their contact information.

The letter is described as being filled with medical “gibberish” including seemingly nonclinical adjectives, such as “astonishing” and “only positive.”
Many observers have commented that the Bornstein letter’s assertion that Donald Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency,” seems ridiculous. Dr. Gunter appeared to become exasperated with the suggestion.

Quote:“Dr. Bornstein is not a medical historian who runs a presidential health archive and, obviously, Washington and Lincoln never had their PSA checked for comparison. The first blood pressure cuff was invented in 1881, so yeah.”

Gunter also noted that while results reported for Trump were consistent with what would be expected for a healthy 70-year-old man, they were hardly “extraordinary” or “astonishing.”

image: http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Harold-Bornstein-Jacob-Bornstein-Trump-Medical-Letter-Dead-Doctor-References-Raise-Questions-670x388.jpg
[Photo by Jeff Swensen/Getty Images]


Dr. Gunter expressed concern that Dr. Bornstein was not a general practitioner, but a gastroenterologist. The doctor wrote that a healthy person under the age of 50 would not require the services of a gastroenterologist. She allowed that some gastroenterologists may begin their careers dividing their time between the specialty and general practice and that this may be how Donald Trump came to have been their patient since 1980.

“We want to know what kind of physical health our commander in chief is in,” Trump PAC founder Amy Kremer stated on CNN with regard to Hillary Clinton’s health.

Kurt Eichenwald, a Newsweek writer, explained that Fox News‘ Sean Hannity and other right-wing commentators’ “Trump garbage approach” is an attempt to create worry among voters over health problems with Clinton that do not exist.


“This is not a real letter,” Eichenwald stated with regard to the Bornstein-Trump letter. He found the fact that the letter listed Trump as undergoing medical tests that returned “positive” results, generally interpreted as meaning that the presidential candidate was suffering from an affliction, puzzling. The Newsweek columnist felt that this was not a mistake that a competent medical doctor would make.

[BmorePat87]

"I’m always dubious, with all due respect to television doctors, when you have a doctor who has never seen the patient, begin to give you a complicated, fancy sounding analysis based on what? I mean, I would be very cautious and I would recommend to doctors for professional reasons to be very cautious deciding you’re going to start analyzing people. Because next you're gonna get a left-wing psychiatrist explaining Donald Trump in negative terms. I think we ought to recognize that's kind of junk medicine. That’s not the real deal."

Newt actually defending Hillary on this.