Putin rival briefly arrested in Moscow during protest

[BmorePat87]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/28/europe/russian-protests-navalny-office-intl/index.html

Putin rival and prospective presidential candidate Alexei Navalny was arrested during a protest this weekend a thousand came out in Moscow to protest Putin's regime.

Earlier police had forced their way into his party headquarters while he was broadcasting on youtube, accusing him on planting a bomb. They seized equipment during the raid. CNN reached out to Moscow police but were told there's no information regarding the raids.

This is not the first time the authorities have come after him on trumped up charges.

[Dill]

(01-29-2018, 03:15 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/28/europe/russian-protests-navalny-office-intl/index.html

Putin rival and prospective presidential candidate Alexei Navalny was arrested during a protest this weekend a thousand came out in Moscow to protest Putin's regime.

Earlier police had forced their way into his party headquarters while he was broadcasting on youtube, accusing him on planting a bomb. They seized equipment during the raid. CNN reached out to Moscow police but were told there's no information regarding the raids.

This is not the first time the authorities have come after him on trumped up charges.

And not the first time Putin opponents have been jailed.

One big difference between Russia and the US is that more people care about abuse of power. The Russian population as a whole seems to be indifferent to Putin's authoritarian actions, so long as he seems to keep Russia a player on the world stage and keeps the standard of living above what it was '91-98.

[StLucieBengal]

(01-29-2018, 03:49 PM)Dill Wrote: And not the first time Putin opponents have been jailed.

One big difference between Russia and the US is that more people care about abuse of power. The Russian population as a whole seems to be indifferent to Putin's authoritarian actions, so long as he seems to keep Russia a player on the world stage and keeps the standard of living above what it was '91-98.

The population needs the government because the economy isn’t strong.

I do wonder what would happen if we received sancitions and allowed tbejr economy to grow if the people would be more likely to support an anti government candidate.

I am actually waiting to speak to my father in law about this before I comment on what happened, as he is plugged in to that subject.

[BmorePat87]

(01-29-2018, 04:50 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The population needs the government because the economy isn’t strong.    

Much libertarian so individual responsibility

[*michaelsean*]

And yet according to American reports he has 80% approval. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

[Dill]

(01-29-2018, 09:19 PM)michaelsean Wrote: And yet according to American reports he has 80% approval. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

No liberal tradition. No conception of judicial independence and checks and balances--except in the abstract, something hey heard the US has. Freedom of the press was new to them, appearing only briefly during the 90s, when they were suffering under a terrible depression and average income dropped way below Soviet levels.

They were also suffering from diminished identity, as they once stood toe to toe with the Americans on the world stage, and then were diminished to less importance than France, the UK or Italy, begging the IMF and World Bank for help.

Given the ethnic and political diversity of Russia, there is also a sense that a strong leader is needed to hold things together, to keep the federation from breaking apart even more.

Putin has stamped out the Chechnyan rebellion, stood up to Bush and Obama, brought the Winter Olympics and the World Cup to Russia, and retaken the Crimea.  Turkey is now a "friend" and Syria is a Middle East satellite. He has also corralled the oligarchs. The world knows that for some mysterious reason, Trump cannot criticize or oppose him, and is working to ease sanctions on Russian oil development.

He has also re-identified the Orthodox Church with Russia. When ***** Riot defiled the holiest Cathedral in Russia with their Putin Prayer video, one call from Patriach Kirill directly to Putin put three of them in prison.

And he successfully cast all opposing media as traitorous fake news out personally to get him, eventually appropriating control of ORT, NRT and TV-d6, which now pump out glowing reports of Putin driving racing cars, competing in Judo matches, and tranquilizing tigers so transmitters can be attached to them, etc.  Virtually all large media outlets now are defenders of the Kremlin, Fox News style. There are internal and external enemies of the president, but he stands up to them all for the people of Russia.

So few really miss freedom of the press when Russia is in the hands of a "strong" leader and seems to be trending upwards in terms of both the economy and world stature.

[StLucieBengal]

(01-29-2018, 08:41 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Much libertarian so individual responsibility

Russia is a tough place. They will get there. As soon as we stop treating them as the worst people In the world it will be a good start. Especially since we bend over backwards for actual bad people.

[BmorePat87]

(01-30-2018, 01:08 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Russia is a tough place.   They will get there.   As soon as we stop treating them as the worst people In the world it will be a good start.   Especially since we bend over backwards for actual bad people.

Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Stop expecting the government to do it for you.