Reds May 2024 thread

[cinci4life]

Well great. Fraley takes a pitch off the hand and leaves the game after the inning was over.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(05-14-2024, 02:00 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

(05-21-2024, 08:30 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Do you remember that scene in Major League, where the grounds crew mutters "They still stink"? Seems fitting for the Reds right now.

Why yes, yes I do. ;)

[cinci4life]

It's a miracle!!!! Diaz got the save!

[Nicomo Cosca]

This team literally only wins when Elly carries them.

[cinci4life]

(05-21-2024, 10:00 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: This team literally only wins when Elly carries them.

The pitching won it tonight though.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(05-21-2024, 10:12 PM)cinci4life Wrote: The pitching won it tonight though.

That and Elly’s RBI. One hit outside of him is pathetic though.

[cinci4life]

(05-21-2024, 10:23 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That and Elly’s RBI. One hit outside of him is pathetic though.

That wasn't the actual winning run.

[kevin]

Reds get win #20.

Attendance was around 19,000 tonight. This is a big Holiday homestand for Reds. Reds are near the bottom in home attendance this season. That ain't good. Reds need to fill the seats this homestand. Hopefully some sell-out crowds,

I'm keeping an eye on how many wins Reds can get to this month. Maybe more important I'm keeping an eye on if Fans show up at GABP over this Memorial Day long homestand. If you want better players next year, that's going to take Fans spending some Money.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(05-21-2024, 10:34 PM)cinci4life Wrote: That wasn't the actual winning run.

You’re right, I forgot they were already up 1-0. Point still stands. He IS their offense. I’ve never seen such a bad hitting Reds team in my lifetime.

[cinci4life]

(05-21-2024, 10:40 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You’re right, I forgot they were already up 1-0. Point still stands. He IS their offense. I’ve never seen such a bad hitting Reds team in my lifetime.

I do agree with you about Elly being the offense most of the time. Hitting might not get any better if we keep having players take fastballs off the hand/wrist/elbow. Just too many players getting injured.

[*bengalfan74*]

(05-21-2024, 10:40 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You’re right, I forgot they were already up 1-0. Point still stands. He IS their offense. I’ve never seen such a bad hitting Reds team in my lifetime.

For sure

And it's official. Worst team avg. in MLB .219

There's only 3 guys in the lineup with anything resembling a Major League statline. Elly .262 Stepheson .263 and Fraley .272

Three hits a game is about our norm, it's unwatchable.

[CJD]

All we need to do to win is pitch perfectly. Then, we'll win by a couple runs.

It's simple.

[*ochocincos*]

(05-21-2024, 05:03 PM)samhain Wrote: I think sell mode is inevitable by the deadline.  I wonder if another big fire sale could bring back enough high-end prospects to Bob and Phil proof this team?  When exactly is peak value achieved?  

They have the number 2 pick in this year's draft by sheer luck.  They are going to lose a lot more games.  Certainly enough to get back into the lottery, probably with more of a chance at a good pick than they had this year.  

The most exciting thing this team does is rebuild with prospects.  Last year was the peak for this group.  Boras is not letting Elly sign here long term for cheap as Acuna did with Atlanta.  After this season, he'll want out anyway.  You could get a real haul for him right now.  Like one of the biggest returns in MLB history.  It would also save ownership from chopping their own balls off for 12 years like they did with the Votto deal.  

Greene is peaking.  If he continues, he's an easy sell.  His contract is reasonable, so teams should be interested.  On top of that you have Lowder, Phillips, and Petty rising through the ranks.  Pump and dump like Jordan freaking Belfort.  

We'd have so many prospects that they'd change the team name to the Cincinnati Bats before next season.  Judging by the current lineup, they might as well call them that now.

I personally wouldn't trade Greene with his team-friendly contract through the next few years. It would have to be a pretty damn good return to let him go.

Instead, I'd be looking to part ways with Candelario because he was really only brought in when McLain went down, and he's never been a good bat.
I don't want a $15 mill APY guy who isn't a good hitter, especially for the next 2 years after this year.
Candelario would need to boost his .672 OPS though over the next 2 months for some team to want to take him I guess lol.

Or maybe trade Ashcraft.
Reds have Phillips ready to come back up, and he could take Ashcraft's spot.

As much as I'd not like it, the two best hitters the Reds have trade-wise are EDLC and Steer.
Fans would be pissed, but those two would probably yield the best return.

[*bengalfan74*]

(05-22-2024, 10:54 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I personally wouldn't trade Greene with his team-friendly contract through the next few years. It would have to be a pretty damn good return to let him go.

Instead, I'd be looking to part ways with Candelario because he was really only brought in when McLain went down, and he's never been a good bat.
I don't want a $15 mill APY guy who isn't a good hitter, especially for the next 2 years after this year.
Candelario would need to boost his .672 OPS though over the next 2 months for some team to want to take him I guess lol.

Or maybe trade Ashcraft.
Reds have Phillips ready to come back up, and he could take Ashcraft's spot.

As much as I'd not like it, the two best hitters the Reds have trade-wise are EDLC and Steer.
Fans would be pissed, but those two would probably yield the best return.

There's little to no trade value in guys like Candelario, India, and Benson. And quite honestly I'm not sure a fire sale and rebuild is what's needed? 

We're missing Friedl, McClain, Marte, and CES. It's just to early in their careers to throw in the towel. Elly is balling, Steer will recover (hopefully) 

What's need is new ownership and management. Somebody who doesn't live in the laptop stats and knows how to manage, Somebody who won't bench Fraley and bat a guy hitting .150 3rd.

But this season is already toast barring a miracle.

[Timanky12]

3 hits and 2 unearned runs, should have been 0 runs.
Another outstanding offensive output. If we don’t pitch a perfect game, we have no chance of winning.

[*ochocincos*]

(05-22-2024, 04:28 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: There's little to no trade value in guys like Candelario, India, and Benson. And quite honestly I'm not sure a fire sale and rebuild is what's needed? 

We're missing Friedl, McClain, Marte, and CES. It's just to early in their careers to throw in the towel. Elly is balling, Steer will recover (hopefully) 

What's need is new ownership and management. Somebody who doesn't live in the laptop stats and knows how to manage, Somebody who won't bench Fraley and bat a guy hitting .150 3rd.

But this season is already toast barring a miracle.

If Bell was really living in the laptop stats, he'd not bat a guy 3rd who is hitting .150 lol.

With the injuries you listed, a few of their lineup spots are pretty bad.
Ideally, we want the IF to be Stephenson, CES, McLain, EDLC, Marte.
And we want the OF to be Steer, Friedl, Fraley.
Then you have India, Candelario, Benson, Fairchild, Maile, and Martini as bench.

Any prospects looking like they're about ready to make the jump this year into the majors other than some pitchers?
Lookin at their Top 30 prospects, the guys closest to the bigs who aren't pitchers are Hinds and Dunn, although neither is hitting for average.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Terrible throw to the plate by India just cost them a run.

[*bengalfan74*]

This is just unwatchable! Reds batters swinging at pitches that bounce across plate, a foot outside and just generally looking lost at the plate. There's zero confidence on this team.

[The D.O.Z.]

(05-22-2024, 08:30 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Terrible throw to the plate by India just cost them a run.

And they were gonna put him in the OF barring the McLain injury. Could you imagine THOSE throws?

[The D.O.Z.]

(05-22-2024, 08:36 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: This is just unwatchable! Reds batters swinging at pitches that bounce across plate, a foot outside and just generally looking lost at the plate. There's zero confidence on this team.

I'm gonna answer the Craigslist ad they put out next season for a new hitting coach. I think I've got a puncher's chance even though I haven't played organized ball since Knothole!