Samuel Cosmi- Longhorns.......Thoughts?

[Sled21]

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Quote:If Cincinnati opts to draft LSU wide receiver Ja’Marr Chase early in Round 1, then taking a tackle in Round 2 will certainly be the play. And the Bengals are bound to get a first-round caliber player at the 38th overall pick with how loaded this class is.


Samuel Cosmi is exactly that; he’s an exceptional athlete who would add immense value to a Bengals ground game that is likely to drastically increase its outside zone usage in 2021. Cosmi was a key cog on the Longhorns’ line over the past three years. He saw over 400 true pass sets over that span, the fourth-most in the Power Five.

And he fared incredibly well on that heavy workload, posting pass-blocking grades of 82.8, 86.0 and 90.7 in his three years of starting action. Cosmi needs to work on his pass-blocking technique a bit, but he has all the tools to become a quality starting tackle at the NFL level.

[*SHRacerX*]

I like him, but don't love him. He's athletic but not strong enough. He won't have a year to add strength...as a 2nd round pick here, he would be expected to start on the right side. I would rather take a freak like Faalele or even Spencer Brown. I didn't hear much about Brown at the Senior Bowl, though, and haven't seen that Faalele is, in fact, coming out in the draft.

[Essex Johnson]

If things don;t work out in signing a high end FA tackle and Sewell is gone.. take Slater to play guard in 1st round and look at Cosmi in 2nd round and you just replaced two on the line for next year.

[*psychdoctor*]

PFF loves Cosmi, and there are some who like him now better than Sewell. I also like Mayfield. I would not be married to the Sewell pick.

[*Synric*]

(03-03-2021, 02:30 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: PFF loves Cosmi, and there are some who like him now better than Sewell.  I also like Mayfield.  I would not be married to the Sewell pick.

Samuel Cosmi and Jalen Mayfield would both be solid fits in a wide zone. 

[*ochocincos*]

(03-03-2021, 11:07 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I like him, but don't love him.  He's athletic but not strong enough.  He won't have a year to add strength...as a 2nd round pick here, he would be expected to start on the right side.  I would rather take a freak like Faalele or even Spencer Brown.  I didn't hear much about Brown at the Senior Bowl, though, and haven't seen that Faalele is, in fact, coming out in the draft.

That's what you get with most prospects, at least the past decade.
Either not very athletic, but they can drive off the ball.
Or they are very athletic, but don't have much strength.
This was a big thing when Ogbuehi and Fisher were drafted. They were athletic but needed strength and refinement.

[*Synric*]

(03-03-2021, 03:35 PM)ochocincos Wrote: That's what you get with most prospects, at least the past decade.
Either not very athletic, but they can drive off the ball.
Or they are very athletic, but don't have much strength.
This was a big thing when Ogbuehi and Fisher were drafted. They were athletic but needed strength and refinement.

Jalen Mayfield is both Strong and very Athletic but has the third downside limited experience... He did see alot of high end edge defenders though.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-03-2021, 10:50 AM)Sled21 Wrote: https://stripehype.com/2021/03/02/pff-projects-texas-ot-samuel-cosmi-best-bengals-fit/?fbclid=IwAR2x8KcNoxfRg0R5Ptw7ZE2OMw83IjbfZbE8lzQUjqTxQ_eORvyz7ZIruFE

Yes, if we don't get Sewell in the first Cosmi is definitely a guy I would love in the 2nd at 38. As you see Cosmi just got
better every year at Texas. I also really like Eichenberg even better if he fell for some odd reason. It is an extremely deep
class at OT, just the year to Draft one thank God.

[*SHRacerX*]

(03-03-2021, 03:35 PM)ochocincos Wrote: That's what you get with most prospects, at least the past decade.
Either not very athletic, but they can drive off the ball.
Or they are very athletic, but don't have much strength.
This was a big thing when Ogbuehi and Fisher were drafted. They were athletic but needed strength and refinement.

Exactly who I was thinking of....The two that set the Bengals back for years.  

Faalele and Brown (Spencer) are insanely athletic for men of their size.  I love Brown as a prospect, but wouldn't want to try and start him at RT this year.  But I think with a year of coaching, he could be a pillar for a long time.  Faalele worries me a little bit that with that massive size that his knees and/or back would have issues long term, but there are no men in the league with his size/strength that also have his agility.  

Lapham used to call it "the planet theory":  There just aren't many men on the planet like him.  

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-04-2021, 10:00 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Exactly who I was thinking of....The two that set the Bengals back for years.  

Faalele and Brown (Spencer) are insanely athletic for men of their size.  I love Brown as a prospect, but wouldn't want to try and start him at RT this year.  But I think with a year of coaching, he could be a pillar for a long time.  Faalele worries me a little bit that with that massive size that his knees and/or back would have issues long term, but there are no men in the league with his size/strength that also have his agility.  

Lapham used to call it "the planet theory":  There just aren't many men on the planet like him.  

I don't think Cosmi is Og weak though, he can run block and he is a great pass blocker. Og was just a terrible pick and Fisher
had the heart problems so throw his pick out the window, not the FO's fault on that one IMO. Faalele sounds awesome if he is
as athletic as you say he might fit our wide zone we are trying to run...

[yang]

(03-03-2021, 02:30 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: PFF loves Cosmi, and there are some who like him now better than Sewell.  I also like Mayfield.  I would not be married to the Sewell pick.

Agreed.  I would rather go WR in the first and fine with OL in the 2nd, depending on who is there on defense.  BPA

[*bfine32*]

(03-03-2021, 02:30 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: PFF loves Cosmi, and there are some who like him now better than Sewell.  I also like Mayfield.  I would not be married to the Sewell pick.

FWIW. Pat Kirwan loves Cosmi and hates Mayfield. 

[SunsetBengal]

(03-04-2021, 08:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: FWIW. Pat Kirwan loves Cosmi and hates Mayfield. 

Well, they're two completely different style of player.  Cosmi is a technician, or a "finesse type", and Mayfield is a power guy.  Don't read too much into either label, as both have their upside and downside  Cosmi may be best suited at wide zone for run blocking, but his tape that I looked at was pretty underwhelming in run blocking.  He's a pass pro specialist from the get go.  Mayfield, is basically Bobby Hart.  Good power in run blocking, but next to nothing when it comes to the nuances of pass protection.

[*psychdoctor*]

(03-04-2021, 08:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: FWIW. Pat Kirwan loves Cosmi and hates Mayfield. 

I trust Pat.  

[pulses]

(03-04-2021, 03:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I don't think Cosmi is Og weak though, he can run block and he is a great pass blocker. Og was just a terrible pick and Fisher
had the heart problems so throw his pick out the window, not the FO's fault on that one IMO. Faalele sounds awesome if he is
as athletic as you say he might fit our wide zone we are trying to run...

Faalele is 6'9 400 lbs too

[*SHRacerX*]

(03-04-2021, 03:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I don't think Cosmi is Og weak though, he can run block and he is a great pass blocker. Og was just a terrible pick and Fisher
had the heart problems so throw his pick out the window, not the FO's fault on that one IMO. Faalele sounds awesome if he is
as athletic as you say he might fit our wide zone we are trying to run...

He was a rugby player...can you imagine?  I haven't see any footage but I remember how people had video of the huge DT from Baltimore (Haloti Ngata, whose name always made me think of that line in "The Waterboy":  "The MEDULLA OBLENGATA!") pancaking dudes in rugby.

Tackle a guy that is 6'9" and 400 lbs that can move?  Thanks, I will keep my shoulders where they are currently located on my body.  

[SadFaceBengal15]

(03-03-2021, 10:50 AM)Sled21 Wrote: https://stripehype.com/2021/03/02/pff-projects-texas-ot-samuel-cosmi-best-bengals-fit/?fbclid=IwAR2x8KcNoxfRg0R5Ptw7ZE2OMw83IjbfZbE8lzQUjqTxQ_eORvyz7ZIruFE

Man I literally can’t handle the talk about wr at 5. We’re bringing sand to the beach....

As for Cosmi he’s a solid prospect but I’m always turned off by a offense or defensive lineman who needs to get stronger.

[*Synric*]

(03-05-2021, 10:09 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: He was a rugby player...can you imagine?  I haven't see any footage but I remember how people had video of the huge DT from Baltimore (Haloti Ngata, whose name always made me think of that line in "The Waterboy":  "The MEDULLA OBLENGATA!") pancaking dudes in rugby.

Tackle a guy that is 6'9" and 400 lbs that can move?  Thanks, I will keep my shoulders where they are currently located on my body.  

Daniel Faalele did not declare for the draft he is going back to Minnesota next season.

[*ochocincos*]

I'm curious to see what OL are brought in (both FA and draft) with Pollack back as OL coach and also now running game coordinator.
In his last stint, we saw them sign Bobby Hart, acquire Cordy Glenn, and draft Billy Price. We knew Ragnow was the C target in the draft though.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-05-2021, 12:59 AM)pulses Wrote: Faalele is 6'9 400 lbs too

(03-05-2021, 10:09 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: He was a rugby player...can you imagine?  I haven't see any footage but I remember how people had video of the huge DT from Baltimore (Haloti Ngata, whose name always made me think of that line in "The Waterboy":  "The MEDULLA OBLENGATA!") pancaking dudes in rugby.

Tackle a guy that is 6'9" and 400 lbs that can move?  Thanks, I will keep my shoulders where they are currently located on my body.  

MONSTER!

(03-05-2021, 02:55 PM)Synric Wrote: Daniel Faalele did not declare for the draft he is going back to Minnesota next season.

Too bad, I was getting talked into him. Maybe next Draft.