So I guess this racism is supposed to be ok? What a joke.
Quote:Singer Asks White Audience Members To Go To The Back Of the Audience. Then This Happens.
Hank BerrienNovember 1, 2017
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As she has done before, last month, Lido Pimienta, a Colombian-Canadian singer, asked audience members of color to move to the front and white members to move to the back. Unlike other times she has made that request, some white members refused to act in accordance with her request, including a white female volunteer who was reportedly there to photograph the show.
As Billboard reported, Pimienta’s concert last month at the Marquee Ballroom in Nova Scotia’s capital precipitated responses Pimineta had not received before.
Although Billboard could offer no details regarding the alleged racism, festival officials claimed the photographer and several white members of the audience reacted with “aggressive” and “overt racism” after Pimineta requested “brown girls to the front.”
According to the National Post, Allie O’Manique, who shares management with Pimienta, said the female photographer would not budge from her position near the stage, prompting anger from some crowd members. O’Manique, whose version of events was confirmed by Festival spokesman Trevor Murphy, said that Pimienta “just kept saying, ‘Move to the back’ … finally after saying it about 10 times — and the woman refused to move — [Pimienta] said, ‘You’re cutting into my set time, and you’re disrespecting these women, and I don’t have time for this.”
Event organizers revealed the volunteer was kicked out of the concert and is no longer affiliated with the festival. The board of directors for Halifax Pop Explosion issued this statement:
We will not accept this behavior and neither should you. … Be responsible for your friends — talk to them and support them as they move towards unpacking their racism. People of Color deserve safe spaces and it is your responsibility to help. It is also ours. To Lido Pimienta: we are sorry that one of our volunteers interrupted your art, your show, and your audience by being aggressive and racist. We have so much respect for the art and music you create and the space you make for women, people of color, transgender, and nonbinary people. The way you interact with the world acts and provides a thoughtful example. You are a role model to us and many people in our community. We see it. We feel it. We hope you will work with us again.
Pimienta told Billboard:
From the audience’s point of view, [men] for the most part will not think twice before they put themselves right in front of you. I am a short woman, so I always have to show up very early to be able to enjoy the music, to see the acts. ... From the stage point of view, I noticed how most men who plant themselves at the front, they tend to overpower ME. Their presence usually at my own show is a threatening one and I have had men grab me, grab my hands, grab my waist, scream "TE AMO MAMACITA." My show is all about high energy and high feminine power, so I can see for some men, my energy reads "sexual" and they feel like my show is FOR THEM, when in fact, my show if anything, is for WOMXN.
When I started asking womxn to the front, I noticed how white women were usually at the front and brown girls would be behind the white girls, a bit more shy, a bit more restrained. Even at HPX, I had to call out a few black girls who were "too shocked" and felt I was "putting them on the spot" by saying, "Girl come to the front! This is for you!" As an immigrant, as an Afro-Indigenous person, as an intersectional feminist, as a mother and all of the other signifiers that qualify me as "other," I understand what it is like to not see yourself in the media, to not see yourself in institutions and to not see yourself represented or reflected at a music show, because the "artist of colour" (and I put that in quotation marks because even that term is extremely problematic), we don’t get to see each other at that level.
She added:
I am deeply touched by HPX’s apology -- they know they have a long way to go to balance things out, but at least they called themselves out and I hope this doesn't end here but moves past the noise. I have a few ideas; I will probably share when I have time with them. We are all in a complicated and painful time, but we’re on a necessary path, unlearning patriarchal western "civilization" ways. If we don't speak up, we will never evolve.
Quote:Lido Pimienta, a Colombian-Canadian singer, asked audience members of color to move to the front and white members to move to the back. Unlike other times she has made that request, some white members refused to act in accordance with her request, including a white female volunteer who was reportedly there to photograph the show.
As Billboard reported, Pimienta’s concert last month at the Marquee Ballroom in Nova Scotia
DW didn't have an American they could charge with reverse racism today?
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
So much bizarre in that story I don't know where to start. So I'll start with, "Who the @&*% is Lido Pimienta?
The aggressive racist white photographer who wouldn't move is pretty funny.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
DW didn't have an American they could charge with reverse racism today?
Nothing reverse. Just plain racism.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
(11-02-2017, 10:12 AM)michaelsean Wrote: So much bizarre in that story I don't know where to start. So I'll start with, "Who the @&*% is Lido Pimienta?
The aggressive racist white photographer who wouldn't move is pretty funny.
You've probably never heard of her because this is a Canadian artist performing in a foreign country. This furthers the belief that Canadians should be added to a travel ban list. They start with burning the White House, and now they get all loopy against photographers. Clearly not the kind of people we need here.
As far as the photog, if she was professional or trying to be, no way would she move. You pick your spot for the best shot, set up and don't let anything get in front of you. Asking a photographer to move to the back is like asking a singer to perform, but only yodel.
(11-02-2017, 10:20 AM)Benton Wrote: You've probably never heard of her because this is a Canadian artist performing in a foreign country. This furthers the belief that Canadians should be added to a travel ban list. They start with burning the White House, and now they get all loopy against photographers. Clearly not the kind of people we need here.
As far as the photog, if she was professional or trying to be, no way would she move. You pick your spot for the best shot, set up and don't let anything get in front of you. Asking a photographer to move to the back is like asking a singer to perform, but only yodel.
I've always thought Canada should be #1 on the travel ban.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
(11-02-2017, 10:17 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Nothing reverse. Just plain racism.
Good. I'm glad the world has moved past that phrase.
But I thought (because I read it on these boards, just to clarify that it's not my thought only but comes from seeing other people say it...repeatedly) that racism was dead?
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(11-02-2017, 10:17 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Nothing reverse. Just plain racism.
I don't think extremists like this singer are intelligent enough to realize just how counter productive this kind of behavior is. This kind of stuff turns off far more people than it converts. Say I was listening to a speaker who was making a solid logical argument about racism and how it continues to affect our society and they capped off their presentation with a blatantly racist display such as this singer engaged in. To me it would almost completely taint the rest of their otherwise compelling presentation.
Additionally, this kind of stuff gets eaten up by the far right, as evidenced by the OP article. It's a huge log on an already well stoked fire. Like I said, dumb and counter productive, but people like this singer will never understand that.
(11-02-2017, 12:04 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I don't think extremists like this singer are intelligent enough to realize just how counter productive this kind of behavior is. This kind of stuff turns off far more people than it converts. Say I was listening to a speaker who was making a solid logical argument about racism and how it continues to affect our society and they capped off their presentation with a blatantly racist display such as this singer engaged in. To me it would almost completely taint the rest of their otherwise compelling presentation.
Additionally, this kind of stuff gets eaten up by the far right, as evidenced by the OP article. It's a huge log on an already well stoked fire. Like I said, dumb and counter productive, but people like this singer will never understand that.
Well yeah it turns off way more people than it converts because it converts nobody. Nobody who isn't already in the choir looks at this and says, "awesome". The choir, who would rather choke on their own vomit than defend a white person, Christian or man, will turn themselves into a pretzel explaining how this is a good thing. I expect a long winded randomly bolded and italicized post to explain it all.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
(11-02-2017, 11:15 AM)GMDino Wrote: Good. I'm glad the world has moved past that phrase.
But I thought (because I read it on these boards, just to clarify that it's not my thought only but comes from seeing other people say it...repeatedly) that racism was dead?
So you chose this one thing to believe what these other people say?
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
I've seen studies where Whites usually make up the majority of folks in the front rolls. So I have no issue with the singer wanting front row diversity.
(11-02-2017, 01:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I've seen studies where Whites usually make up the majority of folks in the front rolls. So I have no issue with the singer wanting front row diversity.
Problem with what you are doing, is that you assume they disagree with this. They don't.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
(11-02-2017, 01:42 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I've seen studies where Whites usually make up the majority of folks in the front rolls. So I have no issue with the singer wanting front row diversity.
Cite?
Oh....I see what you did there.
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Problem with what you are doing, is that you assume they disagree with this. They don't.
