Take that, entertainment industry libs!

[SunsetBengal]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/inauguration-performer-jackie-evancho%E2%80%99s-album-sales-skyrocket/ar-BBxAasB?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Get with the program, L.A. and NYC. Trump is going to be the POTUS, weather you keep kicking and screaming, or not...

[GMDino]

(12-26-2016, 09:10 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/inauguration-performer-jackie-evancho%E2%80%99s-album-sales-skyrocket/ar-BBxAasB?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Get with the program, L.A. and NYC.  Trump is going to be the POTUS, weather you keep kicking and screaming, or not...  

So someone got press, and her album sold more.

Wow.

And a Christmas album sold better around Christmas?  I'm stunned. 

I thought conservatives understood how markets and sales worked?  

BTW, "little known"?  She's a Pittsburgh girl.  Lots of people know her.  

Quote:Evancho, at age 10, was the youngest solo artist ever to debut in the top 10 on the Billboard 200,[8] and the youngest solo artist ever to go platinum in the U.S.[9][10] As of June 2015, Evancho had sold a total of more than 3 million albums.[11]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Evancho_discography#cite_note-11][/url]

She had four albums in the top 20 and all of them went to #1 on the Classical Charts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Evancho_discography#Chart_performance_analysis

Looks like lots of success with singles also on the classical chart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Evancho_discography#Singles

I'm guessing you never heard her sing though until Trump mentioned her.  

[SunsetBengal]

(12-26-2016, 09:39 PM)GMDino Wrote: So someone got press, and her album sold more.

Wow.

And a Christmas album sold better around Christmas?  I'm stunned. 

I thought conservatives understood how markets and sales worked?  

BTW, "little known"?  She's a Pittsburgh girl.  Lots of people know her.  

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Evancho_discography#cite_note-11][/url]

She had four albums in the top 20 and all of them went to #1 on the Classical Charts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Evancho_discography#Chart_performance_analysis

Looks like lots of success with singles also on the classical chart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Evancho_discography#Singles

I'm guessing you never heard her sing though until Trump mentioned her.  

From Pittsburgh, eh?  Yeah, Trump won PA. 

I guess you missed that part in the posted article, where it mentioned Trump detractors attacking her, and noted that it would "ruin" her career?  Well, I'm sure that you noticed it.  After all, it was a short article.  You just likely ignored that detail, as it didn't fit the theme of your comeback post..

[GMDino]

(12-26-2016, 09:51 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: From Pittsburgh, eh?  Yeah, Trump won PA. 

I guess you missed that part in the posted article, where it mentioned Trump detractors attacking her, and noted that it would "ruin" her career?  Well, I'm sure that you noticed it.  After all, it was a short article.  You just likely ignored that detail, as it didn't fit the theme of your comeback post..

I didn't care because that's not what you commented on in the "short little article".  That's like using the comments section to determine who is the worst kind of person.

Not one person argued that.  

The article calls her "virtually unknown"...that is wrong.

Then is says "Trump detractors" with no link to who or how many.

Not sure how that translated into your mind as:

Quote:Get with the program, L.A. and NYC. Trump is going to be the POTUS, weather you keep kicking and screaming, or not...

But then if I understood Trump fans I could maybe have shown them the error of their thought process to begin with.

Oh, and again, you never heard of her before Trump's team got her to sing the Star Spangled Banner did you?

[SunsetBengal]

(12-26-2016, 10:06 PM)GMDino Wrote: I didn't care because that's not what you commented on in the "short little article".  That's like using the comments section to determine who is the worst kind of person.

Not one person argued that.  

The article calls her "virtually unknown"...that is wrong.

Then is says "Trump detractors" with no link to who or how many.

Not sure how that translated into your mind as:



But then if I understood Trump fans I could maybe have shown them the error of their thought process to begin with.

Oh, and again, you never heard of her before Trump's team got her to sing the Star Spangled Banner did you?  

Oh, Dino.  I try so hard to just think of you as another neighbor, just like the guy next door, except we voted differently.  But, you're so caught up in the Liberal talking agenda, that you likely still think Hillary is going to be awarded the presidency...

[GMDino]

(12-26-2016, 10:14 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Oh, Dino.  I try so hard to just think of you as another neighbor, just like the guy next door, except we voted differently.  But, you're so caught up in the Liberal talking agenda, that you likely still think Hillary is going to be awarded the presidency...

(12-26-2016, 10:06 PM)GMDino Wrote: Not one person argued that.  

But speaking of "talking agenda":

(12-26-2016, 09:10 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/inauguration-performer-jackie-evancho%E2%80%99s-album-sales-skyrocket/ar-BBxAasB?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Get with the program, L.A. and NYC.  Trump is going to be the POTUS, weather you keep kicking and screaming, or not...  

(12-26-2016, 09:51 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: From Pittsburgh, eh?  Yeah, Trump won PA. 

I guess you missed that part in the posted article, where it mentioned Trump detractors attacking her, and noted that it would "ruin" her career?  Well, I'm sure that you noticed it.  After all, it was a short article.  You just likely ignored that detail, as it didn't fit the theme of your comeback post..

You'd think a Trump fan like yourself would be enjoying looking forward to the next four years rather than worrying about some unknown person who "detracted" a singer that the same article claims is a "virtual unknown" (that you never heard of before Trump's team announced her).  But hey, if yelling at people over the internet and making sweeping generalizations of entire cities based on that article makes you happier have at it.
And Merry Christmas!

[SunsetBengal]

(12-26-2016, 10:22 PM)GMDino Wrote:


But speaking of "talking agenda":


You'd think a Trump fan like yourself would be enjoying looking forward to the next four years rather than worrying about some unknown person who "detracted" a singer that the same article claims is a "virtual unknown" (that you never heard of before Trump's team announced her).  But hey, if yelling at people over the internet and making sweeping generalizations of entire cities based on that article makes you happier have at it.
And Merry Christmas!

Why, thank you!  It was a Merry Christmas.  Can hardly wait for those infrastructure improvement bills to start rolling through Congress.  Will most likely mean job security beyond my retirement years, for folks in my profession!

[GMDino]

(12-26-2016, 10:30 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Why, thank you!  It was a Merry Christmas.  Can hardly wait for those infrastructure improvement bills to start rolling through Congress.  Will most likely mean job security beyond my retirement years, for folks in my profession!

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/306490-gop-braces-for-trumps-1t-infrastructure-push

Quote:Republicans in Congress appear ready to embrace President-elect Donald Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure proposal — at least for now.

But even the most optimistic lawmakers caution that conservative support for his plan will hinge on the details, such as how the package is paid for and whether it’s coupled with other GOP priorities.


“There’s an interest among our members, frankly, on both sides, in doing something on infrastructure,” Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), chairman of the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, told reporters. “But my guess is, if that gets done, it probably hitches a ride on tax reform. I don’t know that just an infrastructure bill on its own, as a stand-alone, would go anywhere.”

It’s unclear exactly what Trump’s final proposal will look like. He has called for $550 billion worth of infrastructure investment paid for by bonds, as well as a $1 trillion package financed by offering tax credits to private investors.

Buzz was growing Wednesday that Trump’s economic adviser is now looking at establishing a national infrastructure bank, an idea long favored by Democrats that has gone nowhere under the Republican-led Congress. Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, included such a bank in her infrastructure plan.

Still, more than a dozen Republicans surveyed by The Hill said they were encouraged that the issue was being prioritized by the incoming administration.

“Obviously, it’s going to be a long time till he presents a specific plan to us, but I think it’s a positive step,” Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.), chairman of the Appropriations subcommittee on transportation, told The Hill. “There’s going to be a lot of interesting suggestions. And that’s refreshing.”

The Obama administration frequently pressed Congress to act on infrastructure spending.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO came together five years ago with lawmakers to propose an infrastructure bank, which would have provided low-interest loans and other financial assistance to encourage investors to back national infrastructure projects.

Republicans blocked a $447 billion infrastructure package in 2011 from President Obama because of its massive price tag, despite the support from business and labor.

But Trump’s election could change the dynamic in Congress, where the idea of an infrastructure bank and massive federal spending on transportation projects has typically given fiscal conservatives heartburn.

“It’s music to my ears,” said Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.), chairman of a Transportation and Infrastructure subcommittee and member of Trump’s transition team. “There’s nothing better for this country and getting back to work than a robust infrastructure agenda.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who has focused on deepening the Port of Charleston, said that of all issues Trump has talked about, infrastructure spending is the one most likely to pass Congress.  

“So when President-elect Trump mentions infrastructure, count me in,” Graham, who had a contentious relationship with Trump during the campaign, told reporters. “And I hope he’ll look at ports, inland and coastal, highways and bridges are falling in disrepair.”

Moderate Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) said there is a real opportunity for the Trump administration to bring the parties together on infrastructure.

“There will have to be some kind of sustainable revenue source. I think a lot of things are going to have to be on the table,” he said.  

Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.) said he also supports a plan to ramp up infrastructure spending but will wait to see how the details develop around financing and priorities.

“I’ve felt all along that the best opportunity to get a bipartisan process working would be on infrastructure,” he said.

Yet enthusiasm alone won’t be enough to get a massive transportation spending bill over the finish line.

Lawmakers acknowledged that coming up with a palatable budget offset would be a herculean task.

“The concept is right on target,” Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas), chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, told The Hill. “How we do it, that’s the key.”

Conservatives have made clear that increasing the federal gas tax to pay for infrastructure is a nonstarter. There’s more appetite for taxing corporate earnings that are being stored abroad, a process called “repatriation” when that money returns to the U.S.

But Republicans have also floated repatriation as a way to finance tax reform.

“I like the idea of using at least a part of repatriation to pay for infrastructure,” said Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.). “I think there has been a debate in the government about to what extent to use repatriation to pave the way for tax reform. I tend to believe there’s enough revenue out there to do both.”

Trump’s proposal does not rely on repatriation, but the renewed talk about an infrastructure bank suggests his plan is far from finalized.

“There are a number of vehicles that could finance infrastructure that would meet the approval of conservatives, whether it’s public-private partnerships, investment bonds, repatriation,” said Rep. Mark Meadows.

The North Carolina Republican said other components of the plan that may be important to conservatives are whether it ensures dollars are distributed fairly across the country and whether it rolls back certain regulatory hurdles to getting projects off the ground, one of the major critiques of Obama’s 2009 economic stimulus plan.

“I think that our infrastructure is in dire need of help all over this country,” said Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.). “I think President-elect Trump’s right on that it would put a lot of people to work and do some substantive things.”

GOP leadership has so far treaded carefully when it comes to Trump’s $1 trillion proposal.

“We’re going to work on all of these things in the transition,” Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said during a Tuesday press conference, when asked about Trump’s plan. “So, it’s going to take time to figure out exactly what bill comes where and how it all adds up. But that’s what the congressional process is all about.”

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the majority whip, noted that Congress just passed a “substantial” five-year highway bill at the end of last year. The legislation was financed through a series of budgetary gimmicks, underscoring the challenge of finding long-term funding solutions.

Cornyn said Senate Republicans would at least be interested in hearing Trump’s ideas and how to pay for it.

Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho), a member of the House Freedom Caucus, said an infrastructure spending bill would need to be offset in order to get his vote and the vote of other conservatives.

“If Trump doesn’t find a way to pay for it, then I think the majority of us, if not all of us, are going to vote against it,” Labrador said at an event moderated by the Heritage Foundation on Wednesday.

Lawmakers may also face pressure from outside conservative groups, which have been pressuring Trump to steer clear of any package that adds to the deficit or looks like an economic stimulus plan.

“That’s going to go through some pretty significant and rigorous vetting in the Congress,” Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), another member of the House Freedom Caucus, said of Trump’s proposal. “Reality will ultimately be the arbiter of the final version.”

[SunsetBengal]

(12-26-2016, 11:12 PM)GMDino Wrote:

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/306490-gop-braces-for-trumps-1t-infrastructure-push

As usual, you only highlighted the parts of the article that support your point of view.  Read the rest, there's plenty of reasons why Obama's version was shot down.

[CKwi88]

I fully expected this thread to be announcing Kid Rock as a performer.

Disappointed

[Rotobeast]

(12-26-2016, 11:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: As usual, you only highlighted the parts of the article that support your point of view.  Read the rest, there's plenty of reasons why Obama's version was shot down.

But the jobs were "shovel-ready".

[SunsetBengal]

(12-26-2016, 11:46 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: I fully expected this thread to be announcing Kid Rock as a performer.

Disappointed

Co-headlining with Toby Keith!

[Bengalzona]

(12-27-2016, 12:01 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Co-headlining with Toby Keith!

As a musician, I'd much rather people buy my work because it is good and not because of any political affiliation.

[SunsetBengal]

(12-27-2016, 12:54 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: As a musician, I'd much rather people buy my work because it is good and not because of any political affiliation.

Wait...

So, having one's music noticed because of acceptance to perform at political function = bad

Refusing to perform at political function = good?

[Bengalzona]

(12-27-2016, 12:58 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Wait...

So, having one's music noticed because of acceptance to perform at political function = bad

Refusing to perform at political function = good?

No.

Playing at a political function merely to increase exposure and sales = not having enough talent to be recognized any other way.

[NATI BENGALS]

The fact this is considered a thread worthy topic in pnr is concerning.

The mastery of mind control has been achieved.

Im just gonna enjoy this time of year for the new king.

[GMDino]

(12-26-2016, 11:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: As usual, you only highlighted the parts of the article that support your point of view.  Read the rest, there's plenty of reasons why Obama's version was shot down.

As usual you ignored the parts where even the GOP acknowledges that Trump doesn't have a plan to submit and they don't even know how he'll pay for it and itf they'll vote for it.  BUT they are all for infrastructure spending...as long as it's not Obama's plan.

[GMDino]

(12-27-2016, 02:20 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: No.

Playing at a political function merely to increase exposure and sales = not having enough talent to be recognized any other way.

But like I said she's very successful within her niche market.  She's just getting exposed to a bunch of people like Sunset who never heard of her before so they rushed out to "support her" because she's "on their side".

They'll never speak of her again after this.

[*bfine32*]

(12-27-2016, 12:54 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: As a musician, I'd much rather people buy my work because it is good and not because of any political affiliation.

As opposed to: Being on American Idol, Singing the Anthem at the ballgame, Being discovered singing at a small club, making a porno with someone famous, ect...?

I would assume most artists would do a great many things to get their music out to a larger crowd. Dogging the young lady for this seems like sour grapes on a number of levels. 

[GMDino]

(12-27-2016, 12:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: As opposed to: Being on American Idol, Singing the Anthem at the ballgame, Being discovered singing at a small club, making a porno with someone famous, ect...?

I would assume most artists would do a great many things to get their music out to a larger crowd. Dogging the young lady for this seems like sour grapes on a number of levels. 

And I'd generally agree with you that most musicians will do whatever they can to reach the greatest audience possible.

But I understand that in this day and age some people will be put off by whatever side some entertainer backs.  

It doesn't stop me from watching an actor's work, but I will disagree with their public statements. (Not that she has made any one way or the other...just a generic statement of how I deal with their politics.)