Target removes gender based signage for kids
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Target removes gender based signage for kids
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08-21-2015, 12:28 PM
(08-20-2015, 06:40 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: That cuts both ways. Show me where we are genetically determined to have a sexual preference. If it's not genetic then it's a learned behavior. Even if people did simply choose to be straight or gay why can't we just let people do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt others? ![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png) 
08-21-2015, 02:41 PM
08-21-2015, 03:00 PM
08-21-2015, 03:17 PM
(08-21-2015, 12:28 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Even if people did simply choose to be straight or gay why can't we just let people do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt others? ![[Image: religion.jpg]](http://cdn2.godfatherpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/religion.jpg)
![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media0.giphy.com/media/1kwsTjL8BNqlszNtnCE/giphy.gif) Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self. 
08-21-2015, 03:53 PM
(08-21-2015, 03:00 PM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Because it ruins the sanctity of marriage or some ridiculous cliché such as that. Divorce is a much greater threat to the sanctity of marriage than same sex marriage. And if you oppose same sex marriage don't marry someone of the same sex. Boom. Problem solved.
08-21-2015, 10:09 PM
(08-21-2015, 03:53 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Divorce is a much greater threat to the sanctity of marriage than same sex marriage. And if you oppose same sex marriage don't marry someone of the same sex. Boom. Problem solved. Sanctity of marriage LOL. 37 million Americans had accounts on Ashley Madison.
08-22-2015, 12:33 AM
(08-21-2015, 10:09 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Sanctity of marriage LOL. Well yea, because of gays...duh! 
08-22-2015, 04:05 AM
08-22-2015, 12:01 PM
(08-20-2015, 06:40 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: That cuts both ways. Show me where we are genetically determined to have a sexual preference. If it's not genetic then it's a learned behavior. Autism, cancer, and freckles are learned behaviors. You realize that this is a very stupid argument because we haven't identified the "gene" for a number of things, right? We also haven't figured out how many of them work either. We know there's a gene that causes red hair and freckles, but some people only have the hair or freckles and some have freckles without the gene. We know that families often have the same risk for a type of cancer, but we haven't figured out the genetic cause for all of them. We know that autism is most likely genetic, and there are many candidates for a cause, but we don't know what gene (or genes) to blame. We'll discover more of these now that it is easier to store more data and cheaper to run these tests, but you're confused if you believe that every trait about us has its own gene that regulates it. Some things have many genes. Some genes control many things. Sometimes the presence of more than one gene or a less effective copy of that gene makes a difference. Even within the genes, different alleles play a role. ![[Image: ulVdgX6.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/ulVdgX6.jpg)
08-22-2015, 12:04 PM
(08-21-2015, 10:09 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Sanctity of marriage LOL. Probably not. I think I read only 28 million unique emails between those accounts. Even then, that doesn't take into account fake accounts (like Bill@whitehouse.gov or GeorgeBush@whitehouse.gov), one person using multiple email addresses, and people who made accounts without realizing what the service was or ever verifying it. Though I wouldn't find a 1 in 10 number surprising for cheating.
08-22-2015, 12:42 PM
(08-22-2015, 12:04 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Probably not. I think I read only 28 million unique emails between those accounts. Even then, that doesn't take into account fake accounts (like Bill@whitehouse.gov or GeorgeBush@whitehouse.gov), one person using multiple email addresses, and people who made accounts without realizing what the service was or ever verifying it. Yeah, that's certainly true. It's probably closer to that number. I was going with the number that I had heard, but I admittedly didn't pay much attention to that story. I just laugh at people in a country with such terrible divorce and infidelity rates crying about protecting the sanctity of marriage. 
08-23-2015, 12:21 AM
(08-20-2015, 06:41 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Prove that it's not a learned behavior. Aaaaand go! http://www.sciencemag.org/content/253/5023/1034.abstract?sid=a3ac9da2-15b4-4cd7-9a16-1f08a2fdd62f http://www.pnas.org/content/105/27/9403.short http://www.pnas.org/content/89/15/7199.abstract http://www.morganclaypool.com/doi/abs/10.4199/C00064ED1V01Y201208DBR008?journalCode=dbr& http://www.sciencemag.org/content/261/5119/321.abstract http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/10443/20141118/homosexuality-genetic-strongest-evidence.htm http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/homosexuality--choice-born-science_n_2003361.html Could it be a learned behavior? Probably not. Mating rituals and eating habits can be, but overall what you desire eating and what you desire mating with aren't. Think about it, does a steak taste good because your dad ate steak, or because it ****ing tastes good? Ever know a guy who eats Spam and mayo sandwiches? Does he do it because EVERYBODY is doing it, or because some whacky, ****ed up gene tells him that amount of meat byproduct and egg yuck is delicious? What you eat = genetic. You body has needs. It will speak to you in that regard. As ****ed up as they may be. Same with the mating rituals. You being attracted to women is genetic. You buying them a drink or clubbing them over the head or ordering them online is the learned behavior. But — and listen here, this is the important part — if your homosexuality is determined by the environment, you most likely were gay anyway. You being attracted to dudes isn't related to that slightly feminine uncle or that coach who used to give you a shoulder rub after class. It was because you were already genetically more likely to be attracted to guys.
08-23-2015, 02:17 AM
(08-20-2015, 07:40 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: http://www.viewzone.com/homosexual.html Instead of quoting the blurb you posted i will just do this one to save the space. Well this actually plays into what I am contending with hornones at puberty . We all have differing levels of testosterone, but as far as making a connection with someone, you have to learn where to go for this connection. Hypothalamus releases all this during puberty and that's what mixes people up. Raging hormones at that age was crazy. We all needed a release. I contend it likes being an suseptible to being and alcoholic or being over weight. If things fall correctly then you can be these things. But if you avoid them then your ok. I think who we choose to Love has everything to do with how we make that connection at puberty. We all can remember our first loves and can remember the feeling to kiss them., etc. Which shows how impactful those connections are .... I enjoyed your post. Thanks for posting.
08-23-2015, 02:20 AM
(08-20-2015, 08:37 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Not really calling out anyone here, but in my experience most people that use religion or nature to speak against homosexuality are normally just looking for something to justify their bigotry. No one cares one way or another. If some guy wants to bang dudes that's his deal. I just happen to think there is a nurture part in how we make Romantic connections. Gay or straight.
08-23-2015, 02:22 AM
(08-21-2015, 12:28 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Even if people did simply choose to be straight or gay why can't we just let people do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt others? That's fine, and by no means am I suggesting that they stop being gay. That's their deal. The i was "born" this way is just tired.
08-23-2015, 02:32 AM
(08-23-2015, 02:20 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: No one cares one way or another. If some guy wants to bang dudes that's his deal. It really isn't important to me if it is a choice or not, but your posts constantly infer that if a homosexual were somehow just brought up differently they would've avoided being gay. Personally I think that's hogwash, life experience and common sense tell me otherwise. It is my opinion that those that want to believe that it is a choice, believe that so they convince themselves gay people somehow made the wrong choice and therefore are wrong for being homosexual. Hogwash.
08-23-2015, 02:33 AM
08-23-2015, 02:34 AM
(08-23-2015, 12:21 AM)Benton Wrote: Aaaaand go! Gonna take me a bit to look at this. Will edit this post as I read through. 1st link: so if gay men and women have similar inah 3 ... Your saying this makes them want dudes? Could it not also mean that these men behave like women as far as waiting for a mate rather than being aggressive like a typical male.... Which would play into what I am saying. I gotta go for now but will add and respond to all the links in this post . Thanks for posting.
08-23-2015, 02:36 AM
(08-23-2015, 02:33 AM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: That they somehow had a choice is just as tiring :snark: I don't think they thought they had a choice. Just as we don't.... But I think we all choose at puberty. I'm not just talking gays here, talking all of us. It's a choice we make without knowing we made the choice.
08-23-2015, 02:38 AM
(08-23-2015, 02:32 AM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: It really isn't important to me if it is a choice or not, but your posts constantly infer that if a homosexual were somehow just brought up differently they would've avoided being gay. Personally I think that's hogwash, life experience and common sense tell me otherwise. Has nothing to do with how they are brought up. I have not blamed parenting one time or said that parenting mattered. It's puberty. And what happens then. . |
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