Terrorist act in Orlando

[*Nately120*]

(06-12-2016, 12:44 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Is it wrong that my 2nd thought after hearing the news was "Oh great, here comes the gun control debate crash again"?

Why debate? The guy would have just killed 50 plus people with a hammer or his car, always.

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(06-12-2016, 11:03 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Suspect is dead on scene, shot by police. ID'd as Omar Mateen, US citizen from Port St. Lucie.

Getting your updates from MSNBC?

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Rueters reporting man in LA arrested heading to gay Pride parade heavily armed.

[Aquapod770]

So since white people and Christians can't be blamed the solution is clearly gun control.

[GMDino]

(06-12-2016, 02:42 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: So since white people and Christians can't be blamed the solution is clearly gun control.

Maybe the solution to is stop reinforcing folks who hate people because of who they choose to fall in love with?

Nah...'Murica!  Be straight or git owt!

[Sovereign Nation]

(06-12-2016, 01:53 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: No.

My second thought was, "Wow! Muslims killing gays? This is like some conservatives' wet dreams."

Note: I did say 'some', not 'all'.


My third thought was, "I wonder who will get buttsore if I write that?"

True story.

Buttsore? In a thread about a gay bar?

You are just throwing that one up and seeing what happens aren't you.

[GMDino]

The beauty and the horror of the internet is people react to things much faster.

Less than 12 hours since the shootings and already everyone is blaming everyone else.

How about we start blaming people who get so upset about how someone ELSE is living their life because of religion or politics?


http://www.people.com/article/texas-dan-patrick-tweets-bible-verse-orlando-shooting?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

Quote:Texas Lt. Gov. Faces Backlash for Tweeting 'A Man Reaps What He Sows' Bible Verse After Mass Shooting at Orlando Gay Club


06/12/2016 AT 01:00 PM EDT
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick has faced a social media backlash for what some perceive as anti-gay commentary after Sunday's mass shooting at a popular Orlando, Florida, gay nightclub. 

"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows," Patrick tweeted Sunday morning, quoting the Bible, hours after a mass shooting at Orlando's Pulse which left at least 50 people dead and 53 injured. Officials have called the attack the deadliest mass shooting in American history. 

Patrick posted the same verse to his Facebook page soon after. Both posts were deleted before noon. 

It was not immediately clear if Patrick was commenting on the Orlando shooting. Representatives from his office did not immediately respond to PEOPLE's request for comment. 



Many users on both platforms read Patrick's quotation as anti-gay, as that verse (and the one succeeding it) have frequently been quoted as evidence of Christianity's intolerance of gays. 

"You're such a poor example of Texas, and of Christianity. May those affected my this morning's violence be protected from the thoughtless words of idiots like you," one Facebook user commented on Patrick's post. 

Another wrote, "What a horrific post. Disgusting. But then, I guess you failed to remember that the entire book of Galatians was written to the CHURCH, and that Paul's anger was to the bigotry and selfishness within the Christian church at Galatians. In other words – he was talking about people like you. 

[GMDino]

At the Drumpf has spoken:

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(06-12-2016, 02:42 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: So since white people and Christians can't be blamed the solution is clearly gun control.

That was the President's approach. No mention of Islam or ISIS. 

[JustWinBaby]

Well, Dear Leader just weighed in. The score, predictably:
guns are bad: 1
radical islam: 0

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(06-12-2016, 03:07 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Well, Dear Leader just weighed in.  The score, predictably:
guns are bad: 1
radical islam:  0

He actually started out quite promising. But then went back on script

[BigPapaKain]

(06-12-2016, 03:07 PM)bfine32 Wrote: That was the President's approach. No mention of Islam or ISIS. 

Admittedly I'd prefer if they didn't mention ISIS even though it's the case.

They do this kind of sadistic shit for the attention it garners and the fear of their name it builds. Take that away from them and they lose some of their power.

Now I'm not saying stick our heads in the sand and hide from it, but just call them enemies of the nation.

[GMDino]

Really weird how we can't just think killing innocent people is bad.  Has to be something eles:

Guns
Religion (theirs...not ours of course)
Skin Color
Political affiliation.

Oh, sorry.  I interrupted some Obama bashing.  Please continue caring about the victims.

[BigPapaKain]

(06-12-2016, 02:59 PM)GMDino Wrote: The beauty and the horror of the internet is people react to things much faster.

Less than 12 hours since the shootings and already everyone is blaming everyone else.

How about we start blaming people who get so upset about how someone ELSE is living their life because of religion or politics?


http://www.people.com/article/texas-dan-patrick-tweets-bible-verse-orlando-shooting?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

Tch. Awesome take - victim blaming. If he truly believed a man reaps what he sows, he'd be living in a bomb shelter fearing for his soul in the face of his maker. Preaching hate, even hate against things said to be hated by their old prophets, spits in the face of The Prophet and the son of their God.

[JustWinBaby]

(06-12-2016, 03:16 PM)GMDino Wrote: Really weird how we can't just think killing innocent people is bad.  Has to be something eles:

Guns
Religion (theirs...not ours of course)
Skin Color
Political affiliation.

Oh, sorry.  I interrupted some Obama bashing.  Please continue caring about the victims.

Ironic that you apologize for interrupting "Obama bashing" while making the EXACT SAME POINT we were making about his speech.

Be nice if the POTUS could go even 24 hours before exploiting a tragedy to preach about guns.  But let's not bash him, he sets such a fine example after all...

[Benton]

(06-12-2016, 10:51 AM)bfine32 Wrote: 20 dead, dozens wounded:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-authorities-say-multiple-people-have-been-shot-at-orlando-nightclub.html


There will be plenty time to argue about this one. As for now, thoughts and prayers to the deceased, injured, and their families.

Agreed.

[GMDino]

(06-12-2016, 03:19 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Ironic that you apologize for interrupting "Obama bashing" while making the EXACT SAME POINT we were making about his speech.

Be nice if the POTUS could go even 24 hours before exploiting a tragedy to preach about guns.  But let's not bash him, he sets such a fine example after all...

Guess you missed the point that he says guns, someone else says Islamic terrorism...and then they fight over which it is.

Then we'll be told we don't care about the victims enough.

Round and round.

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(06-12-2016, 03:19 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Ironic that you apologize for interrupting "Obama bashing" while making the EXACT SAME POINT we were making about his speech.

Be nice if the POTUS could go even 24 hours before exploiting a tragedy to preach about guns.  But let's not bash him, he sets such a fine example after all...

No doubt. Everybody knows the motivation for these killings. Dude called 911 to pledge his intelligence during the attack. But POTUS blamed the gun.

[GMDino]

Quote:WASHINGTON — President Obama on Sundaycalled the mass shooting in Orlando "an act of terror" and "an act of hate."



"We stand with the people of Orlando, who have endured a terrible attack on their city," the president said in a brief address to the nation.


While emphasizing that the motivations of the gunman are still under investigation, Obama said, "We know enough to say that this was an act of terror and an act of hate. As Americans, we are united in grief and in outrage."


As the FBI continues to lead the investigation of America's deadliest shooting, "We will go wherever the facts lead us," Obama said.


The president said that Sunday was "an especially heartbreaking day for all of our friends and fellow Americans who are lesbian, gay, transgender or bisexual."


The attack on the nightclub, Obama said, "is an attack on all of us."


While he did not explicitly call for more gun control measures, he said the shooting is "a reminder of how easy it is for someone to get their hands" on deadly assault weapons.



"We have to decide if that is the kind of country we want to be," he said, reiterating remarks he has made in reaction to previous mass shooting tragedies.

Obama urged Americans to say a prayer for the victims and their families.


"God give them the strength to bear the unbearable," he said. Americans, he added, "will not give into fear or turn against each other."


A heavily armed man opened fire in the crowded Pulse Orlando gay nightclub early Sunday, killing 50 people and wounding 53 in the deadliest shooting spree in U.S. history, law enforcement authorities said.


A federal law enforcement official told USA TODAY the suspect had been identified as Omar Seddique Mateen of Port St. Lucie, Fla. His father told NBC News that Mateen had recently expressed anti-gay sentiments. Members of Congress who were briefed by intelligence officials said the gunman reportedly pledged allegiance to the Islamic State.



Orlando Police Chief John Mina said the attack began at 2:02 a.m., when three police officers engaged the suspect in a gun battle outside the club. A hostage situation then took place inside, and a SWAT team was called in, Mina said. Police received updates from club-goers trapped inside, and decided to storm the club at about 5 a.m. The gunman was reported dead at the scene.

Clearly he wants to come take all our guns.

And the ISIS connection is coming from congress...so let's wait that one out too.

[JustWinBaby]

(06-12-2016, 03:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: Guess you missed the point that he says guns, someone else says Islamic terrorism.

Except he's the only one that is POTUS - guess you kind of missed that point.  

Although I suppose it's beneath the dignity of the Office to wait 12 hours before politicizing a tragedy.

"This is a reminder how easy it is to get assault weapons". No shit, a reminder? We needed a "reminder"? Gotta call attention to it in case we didn't mind the reminder?