The "Death of Free Speech"

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

Call me when it gets anywhere close to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/world/asia/pakistan-blasphemy-sentence.html?_r=0

Quote:ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An antiterrorism court in Pakistan has sentenced a Shiite man to death for committing blasphemy in posts on social media. The man, Taimoor Raza, 30, was found guilty of making derogatory remarks about the Prophet Muhammad, his wives and others on Facebook and WhatsApp.

Mr. Raza was sentenced to death on Saturday by Judge Bashir Ahmed in Punjab Province. It was the first time anyone has been given the death penalty for blasphemy on social media in Pakistan. Mr. Raza can appeal the sentence.

Blasphemy remains a highly contentious issue in Pakistan, where mere allegations of the offense can lead to violence and killings by vigilante mobs. Critics contend that the country’s blasphemy law has been used to settle personal disputes and has worsened interfaith relations.

Counterterrorism officials arrested Mr. Raza at a bus station in Bahawalpur in April 2016. He was accused of having blasphemous content on his mobile phone, and officials said he had been showing the content to people at the bus station when he was arrested. Muhammad Shafique Qureshi, the prosecutor in the case, said that the court had found Mr. Raza guilty of blasphemy and that he had used Facebook and WhatsApp to spread the content.

“The forensic report of his mobile phone showed that he had committed blasphemy in at least 3,000 posts,” Mr. Qureshi said. The police also said that at the time of arrest, 20,000 Iranian rials, or about 60 cents, was recovered from Mr. Raza.

Mr. Qureshi said that during police interrogations, Mr. Raza confessed to being a member of a banned Shiite group, Sipah-e-Muhammad. The organization was engaged in a deadly retaliatory campaign of violence against radical Sunni groups before being outlawed in 2001 along with the Sunni militant group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.

Mr. Raza was initially charged under a section of the penal code that punishes derogatory remarks about other religious personalities for up to two years. Later, during the course of the investigations, he was charged under a law that focuses specifically on derogatory acts against the Prophet Muhammad, which carries a death penalty.

Mr. Raza’s sentence comes amid a widening crackdown against blasphemous content on social media, especially Facebook and Twitter. This year, the country’s interior minister asked Facebook to identify people suspected of committing blasphemy so that they could be prosecuted.

Critics say the government’s move has spread fear and intimidation, leading to vigilante justice and violence.

In April, a university student in northern Pakistan was tortured and shot to death by fellow students. The student, Mashal Khan, who attended Abdul Wali Khan University, was accused of posting blasphemous content on Facebook.

A subsequent investigation concluded that the blasphemy allegations against Mr. Khan were baseless and that his murder was premeditated. The killing prompted nationwide outrage and renewed criticism from human rights groups about the country’s blasphemy law.

Trump is a spray-painted turd, but people like to pretend he's some dictator destroying the first amendment. If anything, that Pakistan story kind of reminds me of things that aren't happening in DC, but more out West...

"Allegations of an offense can lead to violence and killings by vigilante mobs."
"In April, a university student in northern Pakistan was tortured and shot to death by fellow students. The student, Mashal Khan, who attended Abdul Wali Khan University, was accused of posting blasphemous content on Facebook."

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-12-2017, 04:48 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Call me when it gets anywhere close to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/world/asia/pakistan-blasphemy-sentence.html?_r=0


Trump is a spray-painted turd, but people like to pretend he's some dictator destroying the first amendment. If anything, that Pakistan story kind of reminds me of things that aren't happening in DC, but more out West...

"Allegations of an offense can lead to violence and killings by vigilante mobs."
"In April, a university student in northern Pakistan was tortured and shot to death by fellow students. The student, Mashal Khan, who attended Abdul Wali Khan University, was accused of posting blasphemous content on Facebook."

I'll raise you this.







The left is tolerant.  Also, islam is a victim of western imperialism.  They would never execute this guy is we hadn't invaded Afghanistan.

[ballsofsteel]

(06-12-2017, 04:48 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Call me when it gets anywhere close to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/world/asia/pakistan-blasphemy-sentence.html?_r=0


Trump is a spray-painted turd, but people like to pretend he's some dictator destroying the first amendment. If anything, that Pakistan story kind of reminds me of things that aren't happening in DC, but more out West...

"Allegations of an offense can lead to violence and killings by vigilante mobs."
"In April, a university student in northern Pakistan was tortured and shot to death by fellow students. The student, Mashal Khan, who attended Abdul Wali Khan University, was accused of posting blasphemous content on Facebook."


Great description!!  

[NATI BENGALS]

When you really look at it. It makes total sense for Trump to exlude this country full of "terrific people" from his travel ban list. Rule #1 after all is..Cant hurt Trumps finances.

They only hid bin laden and pump out thousands of radicalized shit heads from their madrasas. None of that matters in the big picture though. As long as they are friendly to my prez's personal fortune.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-12-2017, 06:38 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: When you really look at it. It makes total sense for Trump to exlude this country full of "terrific people" from his travel ban list. Rule #1 after all is..Cant hurt Trumps finances.

They only hid bin laden and pump out thousands of radicalized shit heads from their madrasas. None of that matters in the big picture though. As long as they are friendly to my prez's personal fortune.

C'mon dude, the US has been cozy with Saudi Arabia since the 70's.  We're talking numerous administrations from both parties.  It's hardly the case that Trump has done some incredibly about face on Saudi Arabia that he should be criticized for.  If you think his business is Trump's motivator, what was Obama and Clinton's motivation?

[NATI BENGALS]

(06-12-2017, 07:04 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: C'mon dude, the US has been cozy with Saudi Arabia since the 70's.  We're talking numerous administrations from both parties.  It's hardly the case that Trump has done some incredibly about face on Saudi Arabia that he should be criticized for.  If you think his business is Trump's motivator, what was Obama and Clinton's motivation?

I was talking about pakistan. If im making a ban list pakistan is top 3. This was about them executing someone for facebook. 

Saudi arabia is just a continued foreign policy failure. 

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(06-12-2017, 09:22 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I was talking about pakistan. If im making a ban list pakistan is top 3. This was about them executing someone for facebook. 

Saudi arabia is just a continued foreign policy failure. 

My apologies for the error.  Pakistan is sticky as well, you can't denounce them or you have no assistance in dealing with Afghani rebels who reside in the more tribal areas of Pakistan.  Believe me, I fervently wish the United States wasn't beholden to such considerations, but sometime you have to consider the big picture.  If this weren't true we'd have nothing to do with China, one of the most oppressive and autocratic countries on this planet.

[Dill]

(06-12-2017, 04:48 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Call me when it gets anywhere close to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/world/asia/pakistan-blasphemy-sentence.html?_r=0


Trump is a spray-painted turd, but people like to pretend he's some dictator destroying the first amendment. If anything, that Pakistan story kind of reminds me of things that aren't happening in DC, but more out West...

"Allegations of an offense can lead to violence and killings by vigilante mobs."
"In April, a university student in northern Pakistan was tortured and shot to death by fellow students. The student, Mashal Khan, who attended Abdul Wali Khan University, was accused of posting blasphemous content on Facebook."

Was someone killed by a mob out West?