Things that make you go hmmm

[Stonyhands]

Not mine but I did find a lot of this really interesting if even half of it is true. ENJOY!

ALL the evil Shadow Government DOTS OF ACTION CONNECTED now on this story ...Clintons, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, Learner, plus secret guests ... Lets PLAY FOLLOW THE TRAIL... Let's follow the trail......

Here's what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it's very important......

From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been empanelled.

Governments from around the world had donated to the "Charity". Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those "Donations" to the Clinton Foundation were declared.

Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out. Guess who took over this investigation in 2002? Bet you can't guess. None other than James Comey. Now, that's interesting, isn't it?

Guess who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? Your friend and mine, Lois "Be on The Look Out" (BOLO) Lerner.

Now, that's interesting, isn't it? It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right? Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005? No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein. Now, that's interesting, isn't it?

Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? I know, it's a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller. What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

Now that's just a coincidence, right? Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance. Let's fast forward to 2009...... James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way. The Uranium One "issue" comes to the attention of the Hillary. Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America's best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians. Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn't, the People got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.

Ok, no big deal right? Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame? Yep, Robert Mueller. He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.

Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney's Office in Maryland? No other than, Rod Rosenstein. Guess what happened to the informant? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.

How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?

~145 million dollars in "donations" made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal. Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? No other than, Lois Lerner.

Ok, that's all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right? Let's fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 "investigations" the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server. He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her "Public Service" as Secretary of State which was required by law.

He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let's not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were killed by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred). Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this...... they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.

Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013? Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer? No other than James Comey. Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?

Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the "Clinton Email Investigation" after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner "Matter" at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her. Nope.... couldn't find any crimes there. Can you guess what happened next? In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.

They didn't even convene a Grand Jury. Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true "Gangsta" Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.

Can you see the pattern? It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues. FISA Abuse, political espionage..... pick a crime, any crime, chances are...... this group and a few others did it. All the same players. All compromised and conflicted. All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves. All connected in one way or another to the Clintons.

They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch. How many lives have these two destroyed? As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service. Let us not forget that Comey's brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation's taxes.

And, see the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.


WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?

Let's learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian's background. Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller. Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998. Lawrence also represented: Robert Mueller three times; James Comey five times; Barack Obama 45 times; Kathleen Sebelius 56 times; Bill Clinton 40 times; and Hillary Clinton 17 times.

Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times. You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman? Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they've "purged" all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been "purged" of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

It's a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter? It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix .... and last but not least Mueller's never-ending investigation into [non-existent] collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.

Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention? BECAUSE....She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's WIFE....That's why!!

[NATI BENGALS]

I think it was Elvis and Tupac who collaborated to put that important info together.

To think all this time the Clinton Syndicate masterminded a plan to get Trump elected president so he would fire Comey and Rosenstien could then appoint Mueller to investigate and frame the honest outstanding citizens that have helped Trump succeed.

Fool proof plan if you think about it.

[BmorePat87]

[Benton]

I like the idea that a guy who couldn't away with getting a blow job was able in eight years to completely over take the government with a secret network of operatives so skilled at deception they've managed to leave no trace of mutliple murders, trillions if dollars in money laundered, human trafficking, transferring arms to enemies of the state, and dozens of other crimes.

He's like a version of keyser sosey that's really really clever, except the first thing out of his mouth is "hi, my name's keyser."

[Stonyhands]

Ok...


Yet you guys believe that Trump is an absolute idiot yet he was able to somehow win the Republican Nomination and eventual presidency in a Nation where half the people were laughing at him. Guess it must have been that Russian meddling that your pipe dream prosecutor has yet to find one shred of evidence there was any collusion with Russia. Somehow mastermind Trump was able to collude with Russia with Obama’s justice department illegally spying on Trump’s team based off a made up dossier paid for by the DNC....Even with all the spying before the election Mueller still has zero evidence and zero indictments of any crime committed prior to the investigation of Russian Collusion. Zero...

You guys really need to decide whether Trump is a jackass or whether he’s a mastermind who stole the election.

[Benton]

(01-26-2019, 01:51 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: Ok...


Yet you guys believe that Trump is an absolute idiot yet he was able to somehow win the Republican Nomination and eventual presidency in a Nation where half the people were laughing at him.  Guess it must have been that Russian meddling that your pipe dream prosecutor has yet to find one shred of evidence there was any collusion with Russia.  Somehow mastermind Trump was able to collude with Russia with Obama’s justice department illegally spying on Trump’s team based off a made up dossier paid for by the DNC....Even with all the spying before the election Mueller still has zero evidence and zero indictments of any crime committed prior to the investigation of Russian Collusion.  Zero...

You guys really need to decide whether Trump is a jackass or whether he’s a mastermind who stole the election.

Trump's success is a mix of a media obsessed culture, having millions in the bank, horrible voter turnout and a lack of distrust in politicans.

Russian bots helped with his advertising, but it's mostly just a mix of bad things all swirling together.

[Stonyhands]

(01-26-2019, 01:56 AM)Benton Wrote: Trump's success is a mix of a media obsessed culture, having millions in the bank, horrible voter turnout and a lack of distrust in politicans.

Russian bots helped with his advertising, but it's mostly just a mix of bad things all swirling together.

Russian bots also helped with Clinton advertising as well. Hillary and the DNC had way deeper pockets.

The Presidency was rigged for Hillary to win. She was admittedly given the questions to a debate. It was rigged within the DNC itself.

The left just cannot move on and accept the results of the election.

[Benton]

(01-26-2019, 02:23 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: Russian bots also helped with Clinton advertising as well.  Hillary and the DNC  had way deeper pockets.  

The Presidency was rigged for Hillary to win.  She was admittedly given the questions to a debate.  It was rigged within the DNC itself.  

The left just cannot move on and accept the results of the election.

Well, I can't really blame them. For the second time in recent years, they won the popular vote and lost the election. That doesn't really scream rigged for Hillary. But these days, neither side ever moves on, they just sit pat until the other side gets unelected.

[BmorePat87]

(01-26-2019, 01:51 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: Ok...


Yet you guys believe that Trump is an absolute idiot yet he was able to somehow win the Republican Nomination and eventual presidency in a Nation where half the people were laughing at him.  Guess it must have been that Russian meddling that your pipe dream prosecutor has yet to find one shred of evidence there was any collusion with Russia.  Somehow mastermind Trump was able to collude with Russia with Obama’s justice department illegally spying on Trump’s team based off a made up dossier paid for by the DNC....Even with all the spying before the election Mueller still has zero evidence and zero indictments of any crime committed prior to the investigation of Russian Collusion.  Zero...

You guys really need to decide whether Trump is a jackass or whether he’s a mastermind who stole the election.

You're working with a lot of false premises. The investigation covers Russia's interference with the election, including "any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump". 

That's two parts:

1) Russian efforts to interfere in the election

2) Coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign


For the first part, there has been a ton of evidence and the accepted consensus of all of the US intelligence agencies is that Russia did engage in a campaign to interfere with the election. There have been multiple indictments for this.

For the second part, there also has been a ton of evidence of individuals within the campaign associating with individuals connected to the Russian government. Talking with Russian officials, quid pro quo, etc itself is not a crime, but it is politically damning. Collusion itself is not a crime until it is criminal conspiracy or coordinating with Russia. No criminal conspiracy charges will come until the investigation concludes. 

The numerous people associated with the campaign who have lied to the FBI to hide that they were in contact with the Russian government are appropriately being charged with obstruction of justice for hindering the investigation. Maybe they lied because they were worried about the bad optics... or maybe they lied because there was an actual effort to coordinate, which would be criminal. 

If they are truly innocent and hadn't lied, the investigation may have already concluded, but they lied so now we have to wait to see what was so bad that they were willing to risk jail time to lie about. 

[hollodero]

(01-26-2019, 01:51 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: Guess it must have been that Russian meddling that your pipe dream prosecutor has yet to find one shred of evidence there was any collusion with Russia.

Unlike your Clinton crime network theory, where every proof is out there.
It's always sad when someone's opinion is 100% based on his initial political views and 0% on anything else, like, say, logic or consistency or good old reason.

(01-26-2019, 01:51 AM)Stonyhands Wrote: You guys really need to decide whether Trump is a jackass or whether he’s a mastermind who stole the election.

I don't. He's a jackass. Turns out many folks can rather relate to that than to intelligence, because smart is elitist (although non-smart has the better boats).
Sure enough, most Trump supporting folk just vote Republican no matter what, no matter if a moron runs, or the devil himself ran really. And since it's always a pendulum and the Dems chose the lousiest candidate there was, probably everybody would have won against Hillary. I don't give him credit for beating her, I also don't give Russians credit for him beating her, I mostly give her credit for getting beat. But since good ethics and a distaste for criminal acts rather was a hinderance than a bonus for a Trump campaign hiring, you got folks like Manafort and Stone and Flynn, who don't shy away from working with Assange, taking money from Russian oligarchs and 10.000 other, quite well proven things. I doubt they stole the election, but it sure looks like they tried.

[jj22]

Well this is pretty sad, and embarrassing.

But a good look at what influence Russian bots had/have on Trump supporters.

As they say in the real world.

Clinton Russian bots conspiracies led to 0 indictments from the Republican led Congress (who despise her) over 40 years.

Trumps number of indictments in 2 years..... yea that pretty much lets you know all you need to know as it relates to what info comes from Russians, and what info comes from America intel.

[Belsnickel]

You know how I know that there is no giant underground conspiratorial shadow government subverting the president and/or Congress? Because anything that large isn't going to be able to be kept secret for long. There'd be solid evidence of its existence rather than circumstantial crackpot theories.

[*michaelsean*]

(01-26-2019, 01:42 AM)Benton Wrote: I like the idea that a guy who couldn't away with getting a blow job was able in eight years to completely over take the government with a secret network of operatives so skilled at deception they've managed to leave no trace of mutliple murders, trillions if dollars in money laundered, human trafficking, transferring arms to enemies of the state, and dozens of other crimes.

He's like a version of keyser sosey that's really really clever, except the first thing out of his mouth is "hi, my name's keyser."

Well you have to remember that the dumbest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office managed to trick a lot of very smart Democrat Senators to vote for the Iraq War.  

[GMDino]

(01-28-2019, 01:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well you have to remember that the dumbest guy* to ever sit in the Oval Office managed to trick a lot of very smart Democrat Senators to vote for the Iraq War.  

*Second dumbest.  Now.

[GMDino]

Good time to share this again:

https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Somebody_Else%27s_Problem_field

Quote:An S.E.P. can run almost indefinitely on a torch or a 9 volt battery, and is able to do so because it utilises a person's natural tendency to ignore things they don't easily accept, like, for example, aliens at a cricket match. Any object around which an S.E.P. is applied will cease to be noticed, because any problems one may have understanding it (and therefore accepting its existence) become Somebody Else's Problem. An object becomes not so much invisible as unnoticed.


A perfect example of this would be a ship covered in an SEP field at a cricket match. A starship taking the appearance of a large pink elephant is ideal because you can see it, yet it is so inconceivable, your mind can't accept it. Therefore it can't exist, thus ignoring it comes naturally.


An S.E.P. can work in much the same way in dangerous or uninhabitable environments. Any problem which may present itself to a person inside an S.E.P. (such as not being able to breathe, due to a lack of atmosphere) will become Somebody Else's Problem.



An S.E.P. can be seen if caught by surprise, or out of the corner of one's eye.

[jj22]

(01-28-2019, 01:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well you have to remember that the dumbest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office managed to trick a lot of very smart Democrat Senators to vote for the Iraq War.  

I think it was emotions over 9/11 that allowed that to happen.

[Belsnickel]

(01-28-2019, 01:23 PM)jj22 Wrote: I think it was emotions over 9/11 that allowed that to happen.

Well, that and the intelligence being given to them was faulty.

[Dill]

(01-28-2019, 12:57 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: You know how I know that there is no giant underground conspiratorial shadow government subverting the president and/or Congress? Because anything that large isn't going to be able to be kept secret for long. There'd be solid evidence of its existence rather than circumstantial crackpot theories.

Have to disagree with you on that.  There is a shadow government blocking almost every one of Trump's moves.

But it's usually called "checks and balances"--a "secret shadow" system created by the founding fathers to prevent a president from accumulating too much dictatorial power.   

[fredtoast]

(01-28-2019, 01:04 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well you have to remember that the dumbest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office managed to trick a lot of very smart Democrat Senators to vote for the Iraq War.  

I believe the Office of Special Plans was Cheney's handiwork.

[fredtoast]

(01-26-2019, 01:51 AM)Stonyhands Wrote:  based off a made up dossier paid for by the DNC

Still calling the dossier "made up" after so much of it has been confirmed as true?

Nothing makes the echo chamber crowd look sillier than this.