Trump Comes to Ohio and Threatens the Entire Country

[SunsetBengal]

(03-17-2024, 04:42 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: The Pence narrative is baffling to me. Why are people ignoring the fact that Pence is being a clear opportunist here?

He decides to not endorse Trump and people somehow see it as Pence standing his moral ground. Have people suddenly forgotten that during the Republican debates last year the question was asked to all candidates attending whether they would support Trump as the Republican party's nominee even if he were convicted on the Jan 6th charges and Mike Pence was one of the 6 out of 8 people on stage who raised his hand? And now he's saying "It should come as no surprise that I wouldn't endorse him". The guys full of shit.

Well, seems pretty obvious that he must have thought that Trump wouldn't be a viable candidate a year ago.  But now that Trump has re-established himself as a factor, not sure what the ultra conservative side of the party thinks that they can do about it. 

[Okeana]

(03-17-2024, 05:00 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: And in this case, why not just attack the merits of the statement itself?  He's talking about protectionism and trade wars with China, and the free market Republicans would rail against this if Biden said the same thing.

I think highlighting his policies like that, which are inflationary, would be more effective and persuasive rather than "BAD ORANGE MAN WANTS TO START CIVIL WAR!!!"

that would require logic and reason.  

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-17-2024, 09:26 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I expected someone to be in here already telling me that's not what he meant it was just about cars. 

Even though he started the rally with a salute to people in prison for an assault on our capitol and democracy. And in the same speech said if he doesn't win we would never have another election again in this country.

Fighting words to me. Talking that much shit.

Like clock work. And you guys defending the threat of a bloodbath if he loses.

What do you think he meant when he said there wouldn’t be another election in this country if he loses? Should be a easy response since you are already warmed up from your last round of mental gymnastics.

[Matt_Crimson]

(03-17-2024, 04:56 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I think you might have posted this in the wrong thread, but I completely agree. I mean, typical politician move, TBH.

Perhaps I misunderstood his post. It just seemed as though Nate was suggesting that Pence's refusal to endorse Trump is an appropriate rebuttal for why you shouldn't give Trump benefit of the doubt in this instance. All it really shows me is Pence doesn't have a backbone. I would have more respect for him had he actually stood his ground and not raised his hand at the debate only just to turn around later and tell people they shouldn't be shocked at his lack of endorsement.

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-17-2024, 05:18 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Perhaps I misunderstood his post. It just seemed as though Nate was suggesting that Pence's refusal to endorse Trump is an appropriate rebuttal for why you shouldn't give Trump benefit of the doubt in this instance. All it really shows me is Pence doesn't have a backbone. 

Maybe the actual religious guy has a conscience? And he thinks he is making a choice between right and wrong possibly good and evil.

lol people broke into the capitol to hang him because he had a backbone and stood with our democracy and didn’t cave to the angry mob trying to destroy it.

[JoeyB2023]

(03-16-2024, 09:35 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: You have no idea how much this pisses me off.

I take this as a direct threat.

https://youtube.com/shorts/BtqtHpOXQYg?si=TlvaM0CleGeAzE9j

“If I don’t get elected it’s going to be a blood bath for the country”

“If you don’t vote for me you aren’t black”

[JoeyB2023]

(03-17-2024, 05:25 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Maybe the actual religious guy has a conscience? And he thinks he is making a choice between right and wrong possibly good and evil.

lol people broke into the capitol to hang him because he had a backbone and stood with our democracy and didn’t cave to the angry mob trying to destroy it.

U mean escorted through by government officials like a tour guide.

[Matt_Crimson]

(03-17-2024, 05:25 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Maybe the  actual religious guy has a conscience? And he thinks he is making a choice between right and wrong possibly good and evil.

lol people broke into the capitol to hang him because he had a backbone and stood with our democracy and didn’t cave to the angry mob trying to destroy it.

Yet, he said he would support the very same guy, on a live nationally televised debate? Yes, backbone indeed.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(03-17-2024, 05:09 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Like clock work. And you guys defending the threat of a bloodbath if he loses.

Quit being led by the nose, you're smarter than this.  He clearly was not threatening a bloodbath of any sort, especially not one involving people dying.  He was very obviously stating that the auto industry will be destroyed if Biden wins.

Quote:What do you think he meant when he said there wouldn’t be another election in this country if he loses? Should be a easy response since you are already warmed up from your last round of mental gymnastics.

It seems most likely that he meant that the Dems will rig the system and destroy our democracy.  Hyperbolic to be sure.

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-17-2024, 05:31 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Yet, he said he would support the very same guy, on a live nationally televised debate? Yes, backbone indeed.

Yay for him?

It’s not supposed to be party over country

[Matt_Crimson]

(03-17-2024, 05:33 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Yay for him?

It’s not supposed to be party over country

I'm thoroughly confused.

How is Mike Pence exhibiting such high moral standards when he literally contradicted himself?

[Belsnickel]

(03-17-2024, 05:33 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Yay for him?

It’s not supposed to be party over country

Then why sign a pledge and state on television that he would support the nominee? If any Republican candidate felt that they could not morally support Trump then they should never have set foot on an RNC debate stage.

[*Nately120*]

(03-17-2024, 05:18 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Perhaps I misunderstood his post. It just seemed as though Nate was suggesting that Pence's refusal to endorse Trump is an appropriate rebuttal for why you shouldn't give Trump benefit of the doubt in this instance. All it really shows me is Pence doesn't have a backbone. I would have more respect for him had he actually stood his ground and not raised his hand at the debate only just to turn around later and tell people they shouldn't be shocked at his lack of endorsement.

I bring up pence because it's a fitting example of Trump totally not calling for or advocating violence and his dumbass supporters missing the point and trying to kill someone. Maybe Trump should tone back the violent rhetoric since his fanbase seems to have a hard time realizing he's not actually talking about violence. Look at Jan 6. Trump told his supporters to be peaceful and the morons ended up destroying stuff and killing people.

Trump isn't calling for violence but his supporters are getting the idea a violent conflict would be beneficial if not necessary to save the country. They clearly can't be trusted to understand he's not serious and loves peace. 

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-17-2024, 05:37 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: I'm thoroughly confused.

How is Mike Pence exhibiting such high moral standards when he literally contradicted himself?

(03-17-2024, 05:41 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Then why sign a pledge and state on television that he would support the nominee? If any Republican candidate felt that they could not morally support Trump then they should never have set foot on an RNC debate stage.

That's called pandering to the maga crowd. Its what republican politicians do when they are trying to win elections.

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-17-2024, 05:32 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Quit being led by the nose, you're smarter than this.  He clearly was not threatening a bloodbath of any sort, especially not one involving people dying.  He was very obviously stating that the auto industry will be destroyed if Biden wins.



It seems most likely that he meant that the Dems will rig the system and destroy our democracy.  Hyperbolic to be sure.

Sorry.

He no longer gets the benefit of the doubt.

I take his threats at face value now.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-17-2024, 06:11 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Sorry.

He no longer gets the benefit of the doubt.

I take his threats at face value now.

That is such a lazy position to take.  I mean if we took Joe Biden's words at their worth, do you really think that he would have a shot at knocking out Trump behind the gym?

[GMDino]

Trump did other things in Ohio.

Like defending a republican candidate that called Special Olympic participants r*****d.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4536924-trump-praises-controversial-former-ohio-gop-congressional-candidate-as-hero/

Quote:Trump praises controversial former Ohio GOP congressional candidate as ‘hero’


03/16/24 9:35 PM ET

Former President Trump praised controversial former congressional candidate JR Majewski at a rally in Ohio Saturday saying he was a “hero” who was “treated very unfairly.”


“[O]n behalf of our country, I’d like to apologize to JR Majewski, because you were treated very unfairly,” Trump said. “So, okay? You were treated very unfairly. The guy was a hero, and they came out with a narrative that he wasn’t a hero. And I think it’s a disgrace, a disgrace.”

Majewski ended his second bid for Rep. Marcy Kaptur’s (D-Ohio) seat earlier this month, not making it to the Ohio GOP primary set for next Monday. 


“While I know I would win, and have a great shot in the general election now that my record was cleared, it is inevitable that the Deep State will do whatever it takes to fight against me,” Majewski said in a statement posted to X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, on ending his recent congressional bid. 


“Even going as far as attacking my family and once again accusing me of stolen valor,” he continued. 

Majewski was the GOP nominee in the 2022 race against Kaptur, but faced controversy due to exaggerating his military career record and lying about serving in Afghanistan, according to The Associated Press. He had claimed he deployed to Afghanistan following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, but instead the Air Force veteran was based at an air base in Japan and had a job loading up planes at an air base in Qatar, the AP reported, citing a review of his military service records. 


Majewski also attended the Jan. 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol and faced backlash for the use of an ableist slur during a podcast appearance in February. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/02/majewski-exits-ohio-house-race-00144564

Quote:J.R. Majewski, embattled congressional candidate, exits Ohio House race
He lost what was seen as a winnable race in 2022, and Republicans feared he would do it again.




J.R. Majewski’s decision to drop out comes shortly after a super PAC began airing TV ads accusing Majewski of “stolen valor,” a term used to describe someone who misrepresents their military service. | Tom E. Puskar/AP
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03/02/2024 04:50 PM EST
Updated: 03/02/2024 07:09 PM EST

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J.R. Majewski announced Saturday afternoon he will bow out of the GOP primary for a key Ohio congressional seat after a week of waffling on his future in the race.

His departure, just two weeks before the March 19 primary, is welcome news for the House Republicans leaders who have maneuvered behind the scenes to nudge him out of the primary out of fear he would lose the general election to Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur.

Majewski, the 2022 GOP nominee for northwest Ohio’s 9th Congressional District, lost to Kaptur by double-digits after news reports indicated that he lied about serving in combat in Afghanistan. His candidacy was a blow to House Republicans, who previously saw the district as one of their best pickup opportunities in 2022. To their chagrin, Majewski launched a comeback bid in 2023 only to drop out weeks later, citing his mother’s health. He later got back in the race.



Majewski came under fire again last month when he appeared on a podcast and called Special Olympics athletes “********.” He then confirmed to POLITICO on Tuesday that he was considering dropping out of the race once again and that he believed those comments could hurt him in a general election. But on Wednesday he issued a defiant statement that he would remain in the primary.


On Saturday, he issued yet another defiant statement, on X (formerly known as Twitter), saying that “while I know I would win,” he was “suspending his campaign.”


Party strategists had been working for months to stop Majewski.


Speaker Mike Johnson and the House GOP campaign chief Richard Hudson (R-N.C.) brought his comments to the attention of former President Donald Trump and his team at a Presidents Day meeting at Mar-a-Lago. They asked the former president for help in neutralizing Majewski out of fear he would again blow their chances in the district. Majewski confirmed to POLITICO that he was in contact with people on Trump’s team. It’s unclear what role they played, if any, in his exit.


Kaptur is one of just five House Democrats in a district that Trump carried in 2020. Majewski’s departure leaves two other prominent Republicans in the race: former state Rep. Craig Riedel and state Rep. Derek Merrin.


Majewski’s decision to drop out comes shortly after a super PAC, Ohio Truth PAC, began airing TV ads accusing Majewski of “stolen valor,” a term used to describe someone who misrepresents their military service.


National Republicans were quick to praise the announcement as a step toward protecting their House majority. “Majewski’s decision puts the team first,” said Mike Marinella, a spokesperson for the National Republican Congressional Committee.


Congressional Leadership Fund President Dan Conston added: “His selfless decision will not soon be forgotten.”

So...
Lost a winnable race
Lied about his time in the service
Insulted Special Olympians on a podcast
gop wanted him out of the race
republicans asked Trump to help "neutralize" him
Naturally he plays the victim, never apologizes and Trump apologizes for the the way he was "unfairly" treated.
On point.

[StoneTheCrow]

(03-17-2024, 06:11 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Sorry.

He no longer gets the benefit of the doubt.

I take his threats at face value now.

This would’ve been a good disclaimer in the original post.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-17-2024, 07:17 PM)GMDino Wrote: Trump did other things in Ohio.

Like defending a republican candidate that called Special Olympic participants r*****d.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4536924-trump-praises-controversial-former-ohio-gop-congressional-candidate-as-hero/



https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/02/majewski-exits-ohio-house-race-00144564

So...
Lost a winnable race
Lied about his time in the service
Insulted Special Olympians on a podcast
gop wanted him out of the race
republicans asked Trump to help "neutralize" him
Naturally he plays the victim, never apologizes and Trump apologizes for the the way he was "unfairly" treated.
On point.

For the longest time, that was the clinical term.  Would you have preferred he said "developmentally unfinished" or "on the spectrum..", or you could go with the old Southern metaphor of "his cornbread ain't quite done in the middle".

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-17-2024, 06:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: That is such a lazy position to take.  I mean if we took Joe Biden's words at their worth, do you really think that he would have a shot at knocking out Trump behind the gym?

How man coups has Biden attempted?
How many times have mobs of Biden supporters ransacked the capitol, looked to hang political opponents, and destroy our democracy? And Biden sung their praises?
How many times did Biden have a Secretary of Defense stay on the job because he feared what would happen with a president that wanted to shoot Americans exercising their first amendment and protesting?