(09-08-2015, 02:43 AM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: Thank you for demonstrating that the majority of people on AFDC are off of it in less than 2 years.
Did you know that anybody who has any property in the country is dependent on the government, and that if they weren't, "property" as a meaningful concept would cease to exist? I'll let you chew on the meaning of that one for a few minutes before you post some dimwitted dismissive response because you can't comprehend thoughts you don't read and listen to on a daily basis.
(09-08-2015, 12:45 AM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than a $12 per hour job
6
Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than the average salary of a U.S. Teacher
8
(09-07-2015, 09:00 AM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: You are seriously the most ignorant person I've ever encountered on the internet.
Nobody is entitled to my money, nor am I financially responsible for others. I give to charities because I choose to, not because government overlords and anti-freedom people like you say that I have to.
It's my choice. In your socialistic utopia, I would not have that choice.
(09-07-2015, 04:55 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Strictly speaking, there's nothing inconsistent with what he said. That's not a for or against anything he believes on my part, simply stating he has no problem voluntarily giving but doesn't like having or being expected to give.
We are arguing semantics. I would say that if you asked people why they believe in charity many of them would say things like, "I believe other people should share in my excess." or "I feel the fortunate have an obligation to take care of the less fortunate." Yet that is quite different from what Jake has said in the past.
But there is no need to keep going around in circles with each of us defining the statement to fit our own opinion. I am not going to mention it again.
(09-08-2015, 05:07 PM)fredtoast Wrote: We are arguing semantics. I would say that if you asked people why they believe in charity many of them would say things like, "I believe other people should share in my excess." or "I feel the fortunate have an obligation to take care of the less fortunate." Yet that is quite different from what Jake has said in the past.
I do feel that the fortunate have an obligation to take care of those in need, but I believe that charitable donations voluntarily given because of their love for their fellow man or because of their relationship with God are different than OTHER people determining that they have to give.
I can and do give back to the community in various ways, and I do so voluntarily because I choose to.
It's like having one of those emotionally needy girlfriends that says "tell me you love me" or "tell me I'm beautiful". To me they don't mean as much when someone is forced to say them.
(09-08-2015, 07:36 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: I do feel that the fortunate have an obligation to take care of those in need, but I believe that charitable donations voluntarily given because of their love for their fellow man or because of their relationship with God are different than OTHER people determining that they have to give.
I can and do give back to the community in various ways, and I do so voluntarily because I choose to.
It's like having one of those emotionally needy girlfriends that says "tell me you love me" or "tell me I'm beautiful". To me they don't mean as much when someone is forced to say them.
I think a person is just happy to feed their kids, whether you meant it from your heart or not.
Quote:Donald Trump says he was talking about Carly Fiorina's "persona" - not her looks - when he suggested that voters won't select the only woman in the GOP field because of "that face."
In a new interview in Rolling Stone released late Wednesday, GOP frontrunner Trump said of the former HP chief "Look at that face!?"
"Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?!" the magazine quotes Trump as saying while he and his staff watch a television appearance by Fiorina.
The real estate mogul reportedly added: "I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not s'posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?"
In an interview with FOX News on Thursday morning, Trump did not dispute the quote but said that he made the comment in a "jocular manner" and that he was referring to Fiorina's "persona."
"Probably I did say something like that about Carly," Trump said. "I'm talking about persona. I'm not talking about look."[b][/b]
A new CNN/ORC poll out Thursday morning shows Trump with a clear lead among Republicans, registering 32 percent support. Dr. Ben Carson holds the second place spot, at 19 percent support.
Trump also implied Thursday morning that the media reaction to his comments about Fiorina betrays a double standard.
"When I get criticized constantly about my hair, nobody does a story about 'Oh isn't that terrible, they criticized Donald Trump's hair,'" he said.
Fiorina responded to the remarks on Kelly's FOX News show late Wednesday night.
"Maybe, just maybe, I'm getting under his skin a little bit because I am climbing in the polls," she said.
Trump is no stranger to comments deemed offensive to women. He engaged in a prolonged war with FOX News this summer after appearing to suggest that host Megyn Kelly was menstruating during the first GOP debate.
But Fiorina has cultivated sympathy among many conservatives after a strong performance in FOX's undercard debate last month. After outcry that CNN's debate criteria would unfairly exclude her from an appearance in its primetime debate next week, the network changed its rules to ensure a spot on stage for her.
GOP front runner by a mile.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Quote:Donald Trump believes that because he attended a military high school, he has an understanding of what it is like to be in the military, despite deferring the Vietnam War draft for medical reasons.
"My number was so incredible and it was a very high draft number. Anyway so I never had to do that, but I felt that I was in the military in the true sense because I dealt with those people," Trump told Michael D’Antonio, the author of the forthcoming book "Never Enough: Donald Trump and the Pursuit of Success," according to a preview in the New York Times.
Trump attended the New York Military Academy from eighth grade through the end of high school where he participated in military drills and encountered some instructors who had served in the military, according to the Times.
He told D'Antonio that at the academy, he got "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military."
The forthcoming book also includes comments from Trump's ex-wives revealing more about his character. Ivana Trump, his first wife, said that the real estate mogul "wants to be noticed." His second wife, Marla Maples, called him a "little boy that still wants attention.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(09-08-2015, 05:07 PM)fredtoast Wrote: We are arguing semantics. I would say that if you asked people why they believe in charity many of them would say things like, "I believe other people should share in my excess." or "I feel the fortunate have an obligation to take care of the less fortunate."
But there is no need to keep going around in circles with each of us defining the statement to fit our own opinion.
Good try but regular people wouldn't normally come up with those reasons. "Share in my excess" ? lol
They would typically say "we all" have the obligation, not just the fortunate.
Although your statements would reflect quite accurately if you changed a few words:
I would say that if you asked the liberal (and some normal people too) why they believe in hightaxes for the rich, many of them would say things like, "I believe rich people should share in their excess." or "I feel the fortunate have an obligation to take care of the less fortunate."
(09-10-2015, 09:54 AM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: I'd like to know who all of these Trump supporters are. I've yet to meet a single person that supports him as a Presidential candidate.
I have met some people that like some of the things he says.
He's about as conservative as I am liberal, fwiw. Looks like I'm voting 3rd party again.
*I* have agreed with a point or two. Never enough to even consider voting for him at all. I know people who love him and WILL vote for him.
He's a psychopath.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(09-10-2015, 09:55 AM)Blutarsky Wrote: Good try but regular people wouldn't normally come up with those reasons. "Share in my excess" ? lol
They would typically say "we all" have the obligation, not just the fortunate.
Although your statements would reflect quite accurately if you changed a few words:
I would say that if you asked the liberal (and some normal people too) why they believe in hightaxes for the rich, many of them would say things like, "I believe rich people should share in their excess." or "I feel the fortunate have an obligation to take care of the less fortunate."
Liberals: They'll cure all of the problems in the world even if it takes every last dollar of YOUR money to do it.
(09-10-2015, 09:58 AM)GMDino Wrote: Maybe because when you put yourself so high on the "I'm perfect and do everything better than everyone else" pedestal he's made himself a target?
Doesn't matter the reason, it's still a double standard. you can't sit here on one hand and laugh at Trump's hair and insinuate it's not really his hair and then turn around and say he's wrong when he belittles someone else's appearance. I mean you can, but that just makes you a hypocrite.
(09-10-2015, 09:59 AM)GMDino Wrote: *I* have agreed with a point or two. Never enough to even consider voting for him at all. I know people who love him and WILL vote for him.
He's a psychopath.
I think he's basically an attention *****. Not a chance I'd vote for him. On another board I post on, one of the regulars (a conservative) calls him Donald Kardashian lol
(09-10-2015, 10:02 AM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: I think he's basically an attention *****. Not a chance I'd vote for him. On another board I post on, one of the regulars (a conservative) calls him Donald Kardashian lol
Ha! I like that one!
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(09-10-2015, 10:01 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Doesn't matter the reason, it's still a double standard. you can't sit here on one hand and laugh at Trump's hair and insinuate it's not really his hair and then turn around and say he's wrong when he belittles someone else's appearance. I mean you can, but that just makes you a hypocrite.
Maybe.
But I don't see anyone else who makes such a big deal about being perfect.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(09-10-2015, 10:01 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Doesn't matter the reason, it's still a double standard. you can't sit here on one hand and laugh at Trump's hair and insinuate it's not really his hair and then turn around and say he's wrong when he belittles someone else's appearance. I mean you can, but that just makes you a hypocrite.
Maybe.
But I don't see anyone else who makes such a big deal about being perfect.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
WASHINGTON – Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump brought his childhood Bible and his stump speech to a conservative Christian summit in Washington on Friday, where he sought to assure attendees that he is a faithful Christian who will fight for religious freedom if elected president.
Trump said progressives are fighting to eliminate Christmas and stores these days are erecting “Happy Holiday” displays rather than Christmas ones.
“I tell my wife, don’t go to those stores,” he said. “I want to see Christmas. You’re going to see it if I get elected.”
Trump also lashed out at one of his newest targets, Marco Rubio, calling the Florida senator a “clown.” That remark drew boos from the crowd. Trump also knocked Rubio as weak on immigration.
The billionaire businessman seized on news that House Speaker John Boehner is resigning next month and said the shift will bring about an “interesting period” for the country.
“We want to see the job being done properly,” he said. “We want people that are going to get it done.”
Trump suggested that Boehner and other members of the Republican establishment in Congress don’t have the courage to stand up and fight for what they want — regardless of whether it causes a government shutdown, something Trump said Americans would blame on President Obama, not on Republican lawmakers.
Trump also dinged Hillary Clinton for using a teleprompter during campaign speeches: “What kind of speech is that? That’s not a speech,” he declared.
In what has become classic Trump, he ticked off poll numbers that showed him leading the GOP presidential field, bragged about his “tremendous” wealth that allows him to self-finance his campaign and touted his negotiation expertise — as chronicled in his best-selling book, The Art of the Deal.
The billionaire real estate mogul also reeled off policy objectives at the Value Voters Summit in a packed hotel ballroom. He slammed the Iran deal, Common Core education standards and mismanagement at the Department of Veterans Affairs, while promising he would build a wall to stop illegal immigration across the U.S.-Mexico border, and put his business acumen to work in the Oval Office.
“I will be the greatest jobs president God ever created,” he said.
The Values Voter Summit — whose primary sponsor is the Family Research Council’s legislative action committee — presents a prime opportunity for Trump and other GOP presidential candidates to connect with politically active Christians, who typically vote Republican. Trump, Ted Cruz, Rubio, Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee and Bobby Jindal all seized the opportunity to address the summit.
Trump, thrice married and one-time pro-choice, had passed earlier this month on the invitation to speak at the summit, but on Wednesday, organizers said he would in fact attend. The reversal came as the billionaire real estate mogul has slipped – slightly – in polls following the second Republican presidential debate last week.
He still maintains front-runner status, including among evangelicals. In a CNN/ORC poll earlier this month, he led the field with 32 % support among white evangelical voters. Carson was second with 28%.
But he has had a bumpy run talking about religion during the campaign. He has said his favorite book is the Bible but declined to cite his favorite verse. In July, he drew criticism for saying he hasn’t asked God for forgiveness.
“If I do something wrong I just try to make it right,” he said. “When we go in church and when I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, and have my little cracker, I guess that’s a form of asking for forgiveness.”
In recent weeks, he has tried to make up for the missteps. In Iowa last weekend at the Faith and Freedom Coalition dinner, he waved his same childhood Bible. given to him by his “very religious” mother, and a picture from his own confirmation as a child. “because nobody believes this.”
“I’m Christian, I’m a Presbyterian, can you believe it?” he said.
Attendees at the summit in Washington Friday signaled that his devoutness wasn’t necessarily the yardstick they were using to measure Trump’s candidacy.
“He’s like the wooden spoon you put in the stew pot that stirred up all the bottom, because they were all just sitting there,” said Barbara Eller, who traveled from Vienna, Va., to attend the summit. And he came in, and whoo. so everybody got excited.”
Eller and her husband, Anthony, said they are seriously supporting Trump and aren’t just window shopping.
“He’s fresh. He’s a little rough on the edges –he’s not a politician,” Anthony Eller said. “That’s his good side, that’s his bad side.”
As Trump marched out of the hotel after his speech, he was trailed by a large group of people wanting to speak with him, get his autograph, or just to shake his hand. One woman positioned herself outside his shiny black SUV as he climbed inside.
“Mr. Trump!” she yelled. “God bless you! You changed everything!”
He wound down the window halfway, smiled and waved, as the vehicle wisked him away.
While the share of white Protestants and Catholics in the general electorate has slipped in recent presidential elections, the share of white evangelicals has stayed relatively the same and remains a powerful voting block composing 23 % of the electorate in 2012 and 2008 and 21% in 2004, according to the Pew Forum.
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